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bagpype 02-27-2021 12:23 PM

Self leveling error coding help
 
I have a 2004 4.8 that I bought with coilovers already installed and the air suspension removed. I tried coding out the warning light with PA Soft by unchecking the box that displays “Self leveling suspension” errors but the warning message keeps coming back. Does anyone have any other insight on why this might be happening? What other steps can I take to get this warning light off of my dash? I have searched for a week online and have gotten nowhere. Please help!!!

zebbcity 02-27-2021 01:11 PM

Hi.

I did the same in PA Soft; however. warning also returned for me until I replaced a bad height level sensor.

The level sensors can be good, but positioned incorrectly and I would get the warning, or even when jacking up car high.

The levels of each sensor can easily be checked in INPA if you have.

2005 4.4 N62 LHD

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bagpype 02-27-2021 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebbcity (Post 1200476)
Hi.

I did the same in PA Soft; however. warning also returned for me until I replaced a bad height level sensor.

The level sensors can be good, but positioned incorrectly and I would get the warning, or even when jacking up car high.

The levels of each sensor can easily be checked in INPA if you have.

2005 4.4 N62 LHD

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Thank you!!
I do indeed have inpa. How do I check the level of the sensors in INPA?

zebbcity 02-27-2021 01:59 PM

Chassis
2 axle air suspension EHC
Read Status
Analog F1

this showed me that my height front right wasnt getting any reading.



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bagpype 02-27-2021 05:35 PM

The only codes that are popping up all involve height supply pressure exhaust valve. 3 of them. Supply height. Height pressure. Exhaust-valve. I have no idea where to start with those.. any suggestions?

crystalworks 02-27-2021 05:50 PM

You have to code the error out of the lkm. Or even better, use ncsexpert to delete the air suspension (by editing the zcs). Details are found in my bc racing coilovers thread.

Edit: https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...removed-5.html

bagpype 03-01-2021 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1200485)
You have to code the error out of the lkm. Or even better, use ncsexpert to delete the air suspension (by editing the zcs). Details are found in my bc racing coilovers thread.

Edit: https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...removed-5.html

I have everything I need to start coding but I have never done any coding in this car or ever. Do you happen to have a diy for us peeps who have no idea where to start to code out the ehc? I read the entire thread at least 4 times but I don’t even know enough to know what I don’t know... 🤷🏻*♂️

crystalworks 03-01-2021 11:47 PM

I was in the same boat. I've been wanting to get to a DIY but haven't had the time, sorry. I'll do it eventually but homeschooling our daughter, caring for our son, remodeling my in-laws restroom, and a host of other things have kept me from having anything even closely relating to "free time."

Editing the ZCS is a pain. Clavurion gave me clues and aid, but piecing the actual adding and subtracting was a learning curve experience that had me reading multiple coding sites and forum posts. I plan on doing a step by step eventually. I know that doesn't help you now though.

bagpype 03-02-2021 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1200621)
I was in the same boat. I've been wanting to get to a DIY but haven't had the time, sorry. I'll do it eventually but homeschooling our daughter, caring for our son, remodeling my in-laws restroom, and a host of other things have kept me from having anything even closely relating to "free time."

Editing the ZCS is a pain. Clavurion gave me clues and aid, but piecing the actual adding and subtracting was a learning curve experience that had me reading multiple coding sites and forum posts. I plan on doing a step by step eventually. I know that doesn't help you now though.

Were you changing the VO to remove the EHC module completely or did you go in and manually remove the ehc module. If it’s the latter, what command/code removes the module or is it just a matter of removing a line of code?

crystalworks 03-02-2021 08:20 PM

E46, e53, and I believe e39 all use ZCS codes rather than VO coding for options/build specs for the modules. You would have to edit the zcs for your truck to reflect removing the ehc system. In ncsexpert when you edit the zcs it will code pertinent modules to reflect the deletion of ehc.

It's confusing. And complicated. I feel your pain. I did at least a month of reading before attempting to clear the errors via editing the zcs. Even after all that reading clavurion was a big help in dealing with the special circumstance of having a 4.8is and coding out ehc2.

Edit: From my thread I linked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clavurion (Post 1190832)
... remove the option bit in ZCS SA part and code all modules.

221 (SA) 0000000400000000 LFEDER_2_ACHS //2-axle Niveauregulierung

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clavurion (Post 1190840)
Change the ZCS by subtracting that bit mentioned earlier. Delete the last check bits on GM, SA and VN parts and check the tab that NCS will calculate new check sums. Save (ZCS_SCHREIBEN) the new ZCS to EWS and instrument cluster (modules which contain ZCS). Then code all modules (CODE CAR). The parameter value changes are made on every module according to this new ZCS.

This thread was helpful.

https://www.e46fanatics.com/threads/...#post-15622438

And this website was SUPER helpful in illustrating what Clavurion is talking about.

https://blog.uobdii.com/diy-coding-b...ia-ncs-expert/

bagpype 03-06-2021 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1200657)
E46, e53, and I believe e39 all use ZCS codes rather than VO coding for options/build specs for the modules. You would have to edit the zcs for your truck to reflect removing the ehc system. In ncsexpert when you edit the zcs it will code pertinent modules to reflect the deletion of ehc.

It's confusing. And complicated. I feel your pain. I did at least a month of reading before attempting to clear the errors via editing the zcs. Even after all that reading clavurion was a big help in dealing with the special circumstance of having a 4.8is and coding out ehc2.

Edit: From my thread I linked.


This thread was helpful.

https://www.e46fanatics.com/threads/...#post-15622438

And this website was SUPER helpful in illustrating what Clavurion is talking about.

https://blog.uobdii.com/diy-coding-b...ia-ncs-expert/

I now have a grasp on what all this means. I do have some more questions:
I’ve been reading and studying like crazy. That line in Clavurion’s post is the line that deletes the EHC? This is done in text editor? You had mentioned you had to recode the truck from 4.8 to 4.4. Was this necessary to get the ehc module delete to stick?
After I get this done I will compile a diy write up for all of the future peeps that will need to do this mod.

BigLion 06-03-2021 02:01 PM

Hi guys -

without rushing this, I switched to coilvers some months ago and am gradually putting together the mental picture of how to go about sidestepping the EHC to avoid the dash warning....

Might you perhaps have time to give us a step-through for myself and a friend to succeed at this too??

bagpype 06-03-2021 04:20 PM

I started to put together a diy and had to stop unexpectedly. I’m happy to post the screen shots and directions as far as I got when I get back from out of town next week. It’s complicated and scary but if you follow along with this thread and the info Clavurion and Crystalworks give throughout it, you can be just about ready to tackle the errors. You have to know what you’re doing. Read through as much as you can. Crystalworks and Clavurion are super helpful but know in advance what you need to ask. That was the challenging part for me. You’ll get it and you’ll be fine just put in the work.

BigLion 06-04-2021 12:45 AM

That would be amazing - I am full of trepidation about it since I have only used INPA and not even NCS Expert/Dummy before, and my friend is gonna do as much homework as possible on the checksums and everything cos he is that kind of perfectionist!! :stickpoke:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Clavurion 06-04-2021 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLion (Post 1204650)
That would be amazing - I am full of trepidation about it since I have only used INPA and not even NCS Expert/Dummy before, and my friend is gonna do as much homework as possible on the checksums and everything cos he is that kind of perfectionist!! :stickpoke:rofl::rofl::rofl:

No need to worry about checksums. Just erase them and NCS will calculate new ones if you tick the box.

BigLion 07-22-2021 09:11 AM

Okay - I'm feeling fairly confident to do this - I just did a dry run on opening some module output in NCS Dummy, but one weird thing is that when I went to edit the FA in NCS Expert, there was nothing in the list!!

Also it gets the correct last 7 digits of my VIN from the KMB, then adds a number 9 to the end... :shrugs:


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