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RocketyMan 01-08-2022 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1215660)
I bought my barely used Panasonic Toughbook on fleaBay for $75. I use it for INPA and PA Soft 1.4 exclusively on my BMWs. That used laptop and PA Soft 1.4 is still cheaper than the Foxwell NT. Up to you.

I also own a Foxwell NT, great tool but honestly the only thing I needed it for was to reset the transfer case clutch adaptations which INPA and PA soft 1.4 couldn't do.

https://www.e46fanatics.com/cdn-cgi/...1&d=1485994586

I just did this with ISTA on my X3. It was very surprising how easy this was.

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Originally Posted by Larry200 (Post 1215664)
Yes the tamper dot is on. Not a huge issue as I have the old cluster and took photos of the mileage. More a case of getting rid of the codes.

I'm really curious what codes you have. When I swapped clusters on my E53, I had codes because the IKE was configured incorrectly. It thought there was suppose to be an EGS on a manual car, as an example. Also some LCM issues arose too. I know for my case I was able to fix my issue with PA Soft and also INPA fairly easy...as well as obtaining multiple adapters under ~$30 total--granted, yes, I needed a laptop. But I already had one.

Just my 2 cents, and I know it's a sure thing for me personally.

X5chemist 01-08-2022 09:29 AM

I have a Foxwell. It works great. I bought it for an xDrive adaptation code. I'm curious on a laptop though. Which OS is required? I can buy cheap laptops on Craigstlist all day. Even the one I'm typing is suitable. I upgraded to a Wifi 5G USB adapter and SDD drive.

workingonit 01-08-2022 01:32 PM

also thinking about a dedicated laptop for my X5
 
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Originally Posted by X5chemist (Post 1215667)
I have a Foxwell. It works great. I bought it for an xDrive adaptation code. I'm curious on a laptop though. Which OS is required? I can buy cheap laptops on Craigstlist all day. Even the one I'm typing is suitable. I upgraded to a Wifi 5G USB adapter and SDD drive.

I've also got a Foxwell, an NT 510 Elite, with both BMW and GM software. I've used it to fix a couple of problems on the X5, but I've already gotten my money's worth using its' bi-directional functionality on my GM cars. Much better than my Innova 3100i that doesn't have the bi-directional ability.

But, I'm interested in getting a dedicated laptop for the X5, since I would like the added capabilities that INPA and PA Soft 1.4 seem to offer. I haven't fully explored the Foxwell yet, but from what I've read here, a laptop with those programs offers more potential.


I have a Toshiba laptop
Attachment 81556
that I retired from use about 2 years ago. It still ran fine, but it developed a screen issue. The "GEEK SQUAD" at Best Buy had it for three weeks, didn't fix the screen issue (goes dim, then shuts off), and quoted me $700 to repair it. I refused, but before I left the store, I bought a cheap 21" monitor, so I could keep on using it. Later, the keyboard lost a few keys, and I bought an Amazon Basics keyboard, again to keep it going.

When that keyboard started failing, I built a PC with a Ryzen 5 2400g cpu, Asrock B450M Pro4 mobo, Corsair 16GB ram memory and Corsair 450w power supply, 1.13TB storage (632 GB on two M.2 SSD's + a 500GB HDD), and a dedicated Rx570 gpu. I installed 4 Noctua fans inside the all-metal In-Win case I salvaged from my wife's old PC from work. As I had never built a PC before, it was quite satisfying to make it work (no training, no prior experience).

Now, I wonder if it would be worth it to try and fix my Toshiba myself, assuming I could find repair parts, or just try the "used, refurbished" laptops on Amazon (I use them a lot, with my PC parts mainly coming from them; other PC parts came from Newegg.com). My wife insists that I fix her laptop (and her Chevy Cobalt) before I spend anymore big bucks on my X5 "toy" (I sneak in parts under her nose, a bit at a time). I'm 71, retired, and trying to go "cheap".

What are the minimum specs needed for a laptop to run INPA or PA Soft 1.4?

P.S. local Craigslist offerings are much higher, scarcer, than the $75 that Overboost spent on fleabay
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I bought my barely used Panasonic Toughbook on fleaBay for $75. I use it for INPA and PA Soft 1.4 exclusively on my BMWs. That used laptop and PA Soft 1.4 is still cheaper than the Foxwell NT.


RocketyMan 01-08-2022 03:49 PM

Laptop Requirements
 
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Originally Posted by workingonit (Post 1215675)
I've also got a Foxwell, an NT 510 Elite, with both BMW and GM software. I've used it to fix a couple of problems on the X5, but I've already gotten my money's worth using its' bi-directional functionality on my GM cars. Much better than my Innova 3100i that doesn't have the bi-directional ability.

But, I'm interested in getting a dedicated laptop for the X5, since I would like the added capabilities that INPA and PA Soft 1.4 seem to offer. I haven't fully explored the Foxwell yet, but from what I've read here, a laptop with those programs offers more potential.


I have a Toshiba laptop
Attachment 81556
that I retired from use about 2 years ago. It still ran fine, but it developed a screen issue. The "GEEK SQUAD" at Best Buy had it for three weeks, didn't fix the screen issue (goes dim, then shuts off), and quoted me $700 to repair it. I refused, but before I left the store, I bought a cheap 21" monitor, so I could keep on using it. Later, the keyboard lost a few keys, and I bought an Amazon Basics keyboard, again to keep it going.

When that keyboard started failing, I built a PC with a Ryzen 5 2400g cpu, Asrock B450M Pro4 mobo, Corsair 16GB ram memory and Corsair 450w power supply, 1.13TB storage (632 GB on two M.2 SSD's + a 500GB HDD), and a dedicated Rx570 gpu. I installed 4 Noctua fans inside the all-metal In-Win case I salvaged from my wife's old PC from work. As I had never built a PC before, it was quite satisfying to make it work (no training, no prior experience).

Now, I wonder if it would be worth it to try and fix my Toshiba myself, assuming I could find repair parts, or just try the "used, refurbished" laptops on Amazon (I use them a lot, with my PC parts mainly coming from them; other PC parts came from Newegg.com). My wife insists that I fix her laptop (and her Chevy Cobalt) before I spend anymore big bucks on my X5 "toy" (I sneak in parts under her nose, a bit at a time). I'm 71, retired, and trying to go "cheap".

What are the minimum specs needed for a laptop to run INPA or PA Soft 1.4?

P.S. local Craigslist offerings are much higher, scarcer, than the $75 that Overboost spent on fleabay

This is what the highest requirements for ISTA (Rheingold) are. INPA and PA soft 1.4 can EASILY run on this. The laptop you have listed can run it even tho it says it's a 1.8GHz cpu.

My recommendation is to have a laptop with an SSD and good battery. Also, you need to make sure to have a USB port available--as some laptops might not have many at all.

If anyone needs help with the drivers and such, I can certainly give some guidance.

workingonit 01-08-2022 04:44 PM

I'll have to dig out the 'ol laptop, and price repair parts for it
 
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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215681)
This is what the highest requirements for ISTA (Rheingold) are. INPA and PA soft 1.4 can EASILY run on this. The laptop you have listed can run it even tho it says it's a 1.8GHz cpu.

My recommendation is to have a laptop with an SSD and good battery. Also, you need to make sure to have a USB port available--as some laptops might not have many at all.

If anyone needs help with the drivers and such, I can certainly give some guidance.

OK, your info gives me a reachable goal to aim for. I'll open up the Toshiba, try to find a screen & keyboard, and give it a go (unless I can find a good laptop alternative for less).

I have a K-line (K-can) cable already, with pins 7 & 8 bridged. Supposedly, E-53's (up to 2008?) use K-line (K-can) not D-line (D-can), from what I've read. The circled "E-series Cars" in your attachment says D-can.
Attachment 81558
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Larry200 01-08-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketyMan (Post 1215665)
I just did this with ISTA on my X3. It was very surprising how easy this was.



I'm really curious what codes you have. When I swapped clusters on my E53, I had codes because the IKE was configured incorrectly. It thought there was suppose to be an EGS on a manual car, as an example. Also some LCM issues arose too. I know for my case I was able to fix my issue with PA Soft and also INPA fairly easy...as well as obtaining multiple adapters under ~$30 total--granted, yes, I needed a laptop. But I already had one.

Just my 2 cents, and I know it's a sure thing for me personally.

The codes that are coming up are: SAS, ABS, DSC and the red dot next to the mileage.

andrewwynn 01-08-2022 08:42 PM

The trifecta not likely related to dashboard more likely a fault somewhere but you do need to scan to find out where

RocketyMan 01-09-2022 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by workingonit (Post 1215685)
OK, your info gives me a reachable goal to aim for. I'll open up the Toshiba, try to find a screen & keyboard, and give it a go (unless I can find a good laptop alternative for less).

I have a K-line (K-can) cable already, with pins 7 & 8 bridged. Supposedly, E-53's (up to 2008?) use K-line (K-can) not D-line (D-can), from what I've read. The circled "E-series Cars" in your attachment says D-can.
Attachment 81558
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I got the cable that has the "switch" for pins 7&8. Just like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Diagnostic-In...%2C120&sr=1-18

At any rate, I think your cable you already have should be fine.

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Originally Posted by Larry200 (Post 1215687)
The codes that are coming up are: SAS, ABS, DSC and the red dot next to the mileage.

Just like andrew is saying, those are going to be most likely unrelated to the cluster swap--barring the red "tamper" dot.

For my trifecta issue, I had to get my Bosch ABS/DSC module rebuilt because my left front wheel speed sensor was intermittent. Then my SAS had worn brushes (very common) that was causing implausibility faults with steering angle. I couldn't read those codes with just a regular OBD scanner. Hence, INPA.

Larry200 01-09-2022 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1215690)
The trifecta not likely related to dashboard more likely a fault somewhere but you do need to scan to find out where

DSC light starts red but the goes to yellow like he others.
Only other thing I did was to connect a trickle battery charger using the points under the bonnet. (CTEK 5 amps).

bcredliner 01-10-2022 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1215650)
Foxwell NT510

+1


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