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80stech 07-31-2023 02:36 PM

The fan is has a built in driver and is pulse width modulated so not going to work by putting power to it.

Oldmactech 08-01-2023 09:46 PM

Hmm. Ok. Is there a best way to troubleshoot?


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Effduration 08-01-2023 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldmactech (Post 1231943)
Hmm. Ok. Is there a best way to troubleshoot?

yes...

1. The fan should flicker on start-up
2. The fan should come on with AC..if AC is working
3. I am told if you unplug coolant temp sensor on lower Radiator hose it will come on when you turn the key ...I haven't tried it.

If the fan fails to turn on in above tests, replace it.

you can also activate it with INPA and other good quality 2-way scan tools.
and of course you can lay any known-good fan from an E46, E39, E83, E53 E36/7
on top of your engine, plug it in to your fan's connection and see if it works.

I like the TYC brand fan for E53 found on Amazon.

Bdc101 08-01-2023 10:55 PM

If you can't get it to run at all, make sure to check fuse F107 behind the glove box.



This is not the fuse that power the fan, according to newtis and the manual. It is the fuse that powers the fan in 2004 and later cars -- however, some 2003 cars appear to have switched over without proper documentation. There are two of us on this forum that have had fuse F107 blow and cause an inexplicable failure of the fan, only to find that fuse F107 was actually powering the fan.



Just throwing that out there if you can't get it to turn on at all when you turn the AC on. (Post #10 here: https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...continues.html)

Oldmactech 08-02-2023 08:43 AM

Coolant system antics
 
Thanks.
Last PM I disconnected the lower coolant switch, no fan, shorted the coolant switch, still no fan.

Pulling Fuse F61 this AM before it gets to hot here.

One thing I’m curious about: the two vertical aluminum AC tubes next to the fan connectors get immediately scorching hot. Normal? Any cure for 2nd degree arm burns?

Lastly: mine is an 03’, how do you determine if it’s before or after facelift (I think it’s called ?)

I have a fan on the way. Looks like fun to get to it?


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Effduration 08-02-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldmactech (Post 1231961)
Thanks.

Lastly: mine is an 03’, how do you determine if it’s before or after facelift (I think it’s called ?)

I have a fan on the way. Looks like fun to get to it?

you have a pre-facelift... '04 model year (sept '03 production) is when facelift started.

I have only replaced fan on a post-facelift E53 which was a couple hours involving loosening/removing the bumper, etc. I think I read the pre-facelift is easier, but not sure...Have a search.

Oldmactech 08-02-2023 09:21 AM

Coolant system antics
 
Fuse F61- tests good. Waiting for the fan.

Thanks I thought I read in the Bentley that 9/03 was some sort of cutoff but I’ll defer to your knowledge.


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andrewwynn 08-02-2023 10:00 AM

Not a huge fane of crawling on the ground I was able to change my fan out the top. I think I may have cut into some of the plastic ductwork to make It possible.

I do recall some of the bumper cover screws were rustes into the spring nuts and just spun the nut you can't access. I used a small hole saw to cut the plastic around the nut and used a larger head screw on reassembly.

I live in the rust belt your experience may be much less rusty.

wpoll 08-02-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldmactech (Post 1231961)
... Lastly: mine is an 03’, how do you determine if it’s before or after facelift (I think it’s called ?) ...

This makes in obvious (and note that, as already stated, production of LCI began in Sept. '03): -

https://xoutpost.com/attachments/x5-...42471676_n.jpg

*edit* - NOTE!! LCI began in MY2004 (not '03 as indicated in above image)

Bdc101 08-02-2023 04:50 PM

Wpoll, in the US we did not get the LCI until model year 2004.


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