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LVR 07-22-2024 11:06 AM

Is there a newer version of INSTA etc around?
 
Hello all


I have an older version of INSTA etc that only worked on an older windows version, and not having had a bimmer for a while haven't followed updates.


I'm about to buy another bimmer and my laptop is a Windows 11 version and so far I haven't been able to make it work.


Can anyone tell me if there is a version around that works on later operating systems?


Thanks


Appreciate it....

workingonit 07-22-2024 03:45 PM

INPA or ISTA or both?
 
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Originally Posted by LVR (Post 1240078)
Hello all

I have an older version of INSTA etc that only worked on an older windows version, and not having had a bimmer for a while haven't followed updates.

I'm about to buy another bimmer and my laptop is a Windows 11 version and so far I haven't been able to make it work.

Can anyone tell me if there is a version around that works on later operating systems?

Thanks

Appreciate it....

I asked the same question about both programs, when I bought a Windows 11 laptop. I never received any definite answer here, about either program, but I found links to install INPA, using BMW Standard Tools from Bimmergeeks and also Mike's Easy BMW Tools for Windows 10, and I jumped thru hoops making it run on Windows 11.

from another thread: https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...diagnosis.html, post #39:
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Originally Posted by workingonit
OK, INPA is working again!
I removed every trace of BMW Standard Tools from Bimmergeeks downloads, and also the Mike's Easy BMW Tools downloads fom my laptop this morning

I also confirmed that the .OCX files remained installed (in the new sysWOW64 folder), the FTDI driver (for the cable) was still active, and the cable still operated on COM 1 port as well, before I tried the Mike's Easy BMW Tools download & install, again.

I followed Evan Goyuk's YouTube video again, installing as before, and went outside to the X5, and tried INPA again. It's now working. Then I tried the other programs and discovered that I was bypassing the NCS Expert/NCS Dummy "profile loading" steps (I couldn't manually load my VIN), so it seems there is a learning curve to go beyond basic INPA. I think I was rushing ahead of myself, earlier this week.

The BMW tools that are now on the laptop are drawing 15% less memory than before, since there were files and traces of files in various locations, leftover from five previous attempts to get INPA et al installed. Mea culpa. I'm going to stick with the learning curve required, and take my time from this point onwards, since INPA was basically all I wanted, and the other programs are bonuses.

My 4GB ARM64-based laptop doesn't have enough memory, and with a soldered-in SOC, there's no way to add more, so I guess I was lucky just to get INPA to run. It's been 1.5 years since then, and I really haven't needed it, since my Foxwell NT510 Elite does everything I've needed.

As for installing ISTA, I tried installing it, but it was too big for my puny laptop, and would get tp 56% loaded, IIRC, than say that there wasn't enough memory available (no surprise there!). here's another post of mine, from anotheryet another thread https://xoutpost.com/1236259-post16.html

I gave up after that, and could never find anyting that would work on my laptop (which I currently/mainly use as a video player, when the power goes out every other week, or sometimes many times in a month...I have 285 mostly old/bad Sc-Fi videos stored on a SD card dedicated to that laptop).

My advice: try getting another (used) laptop, with Windows 10 or older, so you can more easily install the BMW diagnostic programs...and definitely make sure the laptop has at least 8GB Ram, preferably 16 GB.And, if you're not a computer expert, but a rank amateur like I am, then ask a friend or still with a handheld scantool, like I do.

LVR 07-22-2024 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by workingonit (Post 1240082)
It's been 1.5 years since then, and I really haven't needed it, since my Foxwell NT510 Elite does everything I've needed.


Thanks for such a comprehensive reply! My software bundle originally included INPA, ISTA, SSS, TIS, Navcoder (demo), NcsExpert, WinKfp and a dongle configurator so it was quite a bit of fun to get working and needed an install code by the seller if I ever changed device (reversed over one laptop) so will do what I have to to make it work unless there are better (ie more modern) alternatives....

Does the Foxwell reset codes, make changes to settings? I've got an F150 and use forscan to play around a little...

workingonit 07-22-2024 07:01 PM

Foxwells are easy to use, and a good supplement to more BMW-specific software
 
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Originally Posted by LVR (Post 1240083)
... Does the Foxwell reset codes, make changes to settings? I've got an F150 and use forscan to play around a little...

Foxwell scan tools all seem to reset codes, even the lower cost onesBut, that's not you want or need. You'll want the Foxwell NT510's, 520's, 530's, and the NT710 series tools, that have BMW-specific programming as well as the generic OBD functions.

You can also buy other manufacturers' programming for hese scan-tools, to make them work for what-have-you. They're bidirectional, too, so you can activate and test various components. There may be other tools in their lineup that may have similar functions, but I don't know any specifics.

I've reset many codes with mine, and rest adaptations and raise the idle speed, but haven't tried any other changes. For the money, these tools are very handy and useful, and many here carry theirs in the glove box.

workingonit 07-22-2024 09:41 PM

must've jinxed myself
 
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Originally Posted by workingonit (Post 1240082)
...my laptop (which I currently/mainly use as a video player, when the power goes out every other week, or sometimes many times in a month...I have 285 mostly old/bad Sci-Fi videos stored on a SD card dedicated to that laptop)....

3.5 hours after I posted this statement, and about 15 minutes after my previous post, our power went off, again. It was overdue, as the last time was about 10 days ago. So I watched a movie "I Married a Monster From Outer Space", which I hadn't finished from the last power outage.

Control of the Texas power grid was sold many years back to greedy types (hell, the board of ERCOT, which controls the grid, all lived out of state when everything went down during the "Great Texas Freeze", 3.5 years back), who never seem to fix the grid. Just ask those in Houston.

Funny thing, our power goes off so often, you'd think there was major construction, fires, floods, something within 20 miles of my house, but 99% of the time, nothing.

But, this time, I think it was a squirrel commiting suicide on the transformer safety mechanism near my house (I heard the pop). But I still had to rant, as our power goes off 100x more than it should.


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