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Blue Mountain Raider 01-22-2007 07:02 PM

does your gas mileage decrease in the winter?
 
hi i got the x5 in sept 06 and i was able to run about 750-800kms per tank (93 liters) however now in the winter i get about 650-700kms per tank. i think my driving style hasnt really changed that much.

i suspect its the cold weather here in canada.
does your mileage go down as well in the winter? thnx

xnsf 01-22-2007 07:07 PM

good question. in the cold gas condenses right? maybe your car uses more when it's cold because it's more dense.

or it's maybe you have your heat on... :thumbup:

SilverBullet 01-22-2007 07:09 PM

In Las vegas during the summer, I run the A/C all the time. In winter I don't. I get better gas mileage in the winter.

Blue Mountain Raider 01-22-2007 07:20 PM

i guess the temp in las vegas in the winter is like the autumn of canada?

Michelle 01-22-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driverX5
In Las vegas during the summer, I run the A/C all the time. In winter I don't. I get better gas mileage in the winter.

Are you running the heat in the winter?

bimmerFanatic 01-22-2007 07:25 PM

My mileage goes up. not sure why. I think it's the colder (denser) air. ?

yeowzer 01-22-2007 07:32 PM

Mine goes up because I have to drive slower in the snow. ;)

dr.jay 01-22-2007 08:56 PM

Mine goes down I let the car run for 10 minutes at least

SilverBullet 01-22-2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle
Are you running the heat in the winter?


I will only run the heat when the car has been sitting outside for a while and it is cold. Usually I run the fan at 72 with three dots. No A/C.

TQ2K 01-22-2007 09:03 PM

Mileage decrease since Ethanol was introduced in the 93 Octane blend...

AzNMpower32 01-22-2007 09:40 PM

The colder starts are bad for gas mileage, but overall it shouldn't affect mileage much. My climate control stays on 68F all year, and I tweak the "fresh air dial" to suit my needs.

rjs1222 01-22-2007 09:51 PM

All cars experience reduced mileage in cold weather, it has to do with the time it takes to heat up the engine to optimal temperature. During heatup, the engine does not fine tune the air/gas mixture, it does this only at normal operating temperature. You should expect a 5-10% decrease depending on the number of cold starts.

zzzzkev 06-17-2010 04:04 PM

I know these are old threads regarding gas mileage. I've been searching these forums for a thread on whether gas mileage goes up or down with a seasonal change. I live in Maryland, a rather moderate climate, and have noticed that my mileage has dropped from around 19.6 in mixed use during winter to 17.0 mixed use in summer. I have a 3.0i. I suspect that the gasoline is highly oxygenated in winter as a smog reduction effort and not as highly ox'd in summer. It's a theory but may explain the seasonal decrease. Anybody have any thoughts?

Michelle 06-17-2010 06:34 PM

Are you using your air conditioning now? Mine drops several MPGs if I turn on the a/c.

ekimv65 06-18-2010 06:43 AM

I just assumed it went down because, if like any other human on this rock we call earth, when cold, we leave the car run when we stop in someplace so its still warm when we get out.

I never let it idle in summer.... Just a theory....

zzzzkev 06-18-2010 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle (Post 749578)
Are you using your air conditioning now? Mine drops several MPGs if I turn on the a/c.

Michelle, In Washington D.C. I don't know how I ever survived without a/c. The a/c in the car runs year round actually. I set a temp of 72-74 depending on the conditions. In the winter it doesn't cool but instead warms the cabin, but the a/c indicator itself is on year round. In winter I do adjust the three dots in the center of the console from 3 blues to 3 reds though (make a diff?). Maybe the compressor creates a greater drag for a/c in the summer. Just for chuckles (and because I like to solve a puzzle) I switched from Sunoco to Exxon gas. I have seen nominal improvement in this tank of gas - I'm over 18mpg but still short of where I usually track. I have recorded every gallon of gas I ever put in the car (no comments) so I will analyze the past 8 years and see if there's a trend there.

Michelle 06-18-2010 09:18 AM

Don't use Exxon. It's not top tier. http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/images/smilies/nono.gif

chefwong 06-18-2010 09:26 AM

Any name brand gas that has frequent usage (more fresh gas and decent tanks) is fine IMO.... I tend to add a lil additive now and then as gas quality seems reduced..

Between the Ethanol and Oxygenated Fuel....bottom line, less energy per gallon.

Don't get me started on those corn grower lobbyist. I still prefer MTBE gas

zzzzkev 06-18-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle (Post 749716)
Don't use Exxon. It's not top tier. http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/images/smilies/nono.gif

Not sure how to ID what a "top tier" gas is. I analyzed my gas since I bought the car 8.5 years ago. No real pattern emerged. I detect no seasonal variation by brand and time of year. The mileages above 19.x involved long trips. The red highlights I either did not record the brand or my daughter/wife didn't write down the proper information.

Here's a thought...I have 147,000 miles on the vehicle ('02 3.0i) and changed the spark plugs once at about 92K. Might that contribute to lower mileage?

No seasonal variation detected
Brand/MPG (average)
Love's*18.47Express*18.17Liberty*19.10Gulf*19.10Shell19.14Sheetz19.41Unknown19.50Wawa*19.60Exxon19.67Costco19.737-Eleven*19.90BP*19.94Citgo*19.94Circle-K*19.94Chevron*19.97Hess*19.97Sunoco20.01Rutters*21.09Getgo*20.71Royal Farms*22.78Mobil*22.78* Statistically insignificant (5 or fewer tanks)

Michelle 06-18-2010 01:37 PM

www.topteargas.com


EDIT: Ohhh snap! When did Exxon appear on that list?!

JCL 06-18-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle (Post 749785)
www.topteargas.com


EDIT: Ohhh snap! When did Exxon appear on that list?!

I don't think tear gas will make it run any better, and the driver may not be able to see the road clearly, which sounds dangerous. On the other hand, using Top Tier gas isn't a bad idea.

Top Tier is in no way a quality standard, though. It is targeted solely at reducing deposit formation, a problem that hasn't really been evident for some years now.

zzzzkev 06-18-2010 02:35 PM

Hehe, well it is worth noting too that the Tiger in my tank at 93 octane does not perform as well in mpg terms as Costco does at 91 octane!

tdgard 06-21-2010 03:23 AM

I've always thought my mileage goes down in the summer. Atlanta is forced to use a special blend of gas during that time to keep the smog at a level that kills you a bit slower.

EDIT:
Well after a little digging around, it seems that the summer blend should be more efficient. I dunno-maybe I just take more unnecessary short trips during the summer.

zzzzkev 06-21-2010 11:52 AM

Hmmm, I find Exxon is on the list of top tier gas.

Top Tier Gasoline


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