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Foose 02-23-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by m5james (Post 713139)
I think so. If I remember correctly, Zero said he has like 5"-6" of depth, so a shallow isn't really necessary. Google has opinions all over the place, but it seems the general consensus is that a shallow just won't hit the deep bass notes that a normal sub would, and considering the small space that we're using while trying to accomplish big bass sound, a shallow sub wasn't an option for me. fe3565345 or whatever all those numbers are ;) used a molded enclosure that appears to be smaller internally than stock subwoofer, and he gives praise to his L5. I haven't done mine, but I really plan on getting it done this week. If you're in no rush, I'll give my .02 as well once it's done.

Finished building zerochief's enclosure and there's 4inches of depth.

However, the first 5" from the top portion is slanted down to make way for a bracket. So it takes away about 1-1.5" of depth. It doesn't seem like a regular sub/magnet would fit. I ordered the Kicker CVR 8" instead of the shallow version for supposed better bass. It's coming in this week so it looks like I'm going to have to redo the top portion.

Did you eventually remove that module in the back? What is it for? I'm thinking about bending the bracket backwards to clear up some space.

m5james 02-23-2010 10:31 PM

That little thing is actually the actuator for the locking fuel door. I completely removed it and it's bracket in order to give me more space for my enclosure. I've got the factory plastic enclosure sitting on my bench, Dremel'ed and waiting for me to start fiberglassing the new bumpouts I've made.

KidSquid 02-24-2010 02:19 PM

I know your trying to maximize your airspace, but have u actually calculated
what your going to get by eliminating the indention's in the factory box?

I first thought that too, but realized i would just make the box weaker.

Plus the airspace is right in the middle of where the kicker woofer requires so
its okay. I know with more airspace you can get a deeper note, but if u
want that then you need to go ported to notice a difference anyways.

It's that whole "is the effort required worth the reward" conundrum. :confused:

Mine hits nice.. but not as big as my past setups.. but i like the whole
stealth install look in vehicles. It's a shame you cant come see/hear it.

For the cover rattling, I cut the square woofer shape out of the plastic cover
and have it stick thru. Looks good. Only thing I'd change is make the woofer sit
out a bit more so its fully seated in the plastic cover to look snazzier. I may do that this summer...
maybe.. as it requires me to make a wooded "washer" the shape of the woofer to make it stick out further.

Ill post a pic of my cover later... that is if I'm not too late to add my $.02 :whistle:

m5james 02-24-2010 07:49 PM

I realize it's more effort than it may be worth, but I'll never know since I've already cut out two areas in the back. I just haven't finished becuase it's been so cold in the garage lately...my fingers we're literally numb from organizing my new tool box for like an hour today. I'm in no rush, but since I've already started, there is no turning back now. I'll post up pics when I'm done.

bodyguard71 12-29-2010 04:14 PM

Absolutley brilliant what you,ve achieved.Is there any chance you could e-mail me the exact measurements piece by peice so i can cut out and assemble please many thanks

m5james 01-03-2011 05:44 PM

There are subwoofer threads all over the boards here w/ about 3 different designs, measurements and all...use the search button and you'll find them.

gogz2005 10-18-2011 11:04 AM

Sorry I know this post is little too old but I wanted to see if any one can confirm that alpine 10W1v2-4 sub will fit in this enclosure if I uses .5 inches MDF ?

X5Boise 04-29-2012 11:27 PM

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After deciding that JL Steathbox and Bavarian Sound Werks subwoofers were too expensive to my liking ($550 (sub and box only--no amp) and $600 (full kit for 8" sub and amp), respectively), I ended up persuing over Essam's and ZeroChief's designs.

I initially decided to use ZeroChief's design as a good template as I wanted to maximize space. However after building the box in 1/2" MDF with my handy with tools brother (he had a finish nail gun, which works great in conjunction with Liquid Nails; belt sanders and router make for great finishing touches as well), we realized that more space could be had with a rectangular box that protrudded from the lower box and still fit under the plastic back cover surround (4-6 oclock to the spare tire), so a modification was made. See pics. if I had to redo this, I would consider decrease the top box width from 10 3/4" down to 10 1/2" so it gives a wiring harness (near the front of the back right cargo space--prob for park distance sensors and rear hatch controls) some more clearance. 1/2" MDF was used to maximize internal volume as the subwoofer space available in the right rear cargo area is very low.

In the end, will this extra air volume make for better bass? In theory it should, but is it really noticeable in the real world? Without having both boxes on hand to compare, I couldn't say. Sometimes, I do wonder if it was worth the extra 2 hrs to figure out a way to fabricate the extra additional space (esp. trying to seal it internally with internal bracing blocks to attach 2 walls onto) after modifying the original ZeroChief design. Extra air volume on this very small sealed subwoofer box never hurts as there was room to get closer to the recommended 0.45 cubic feet (accounting for loss of 0.081 cubic feet that that sub displaces in the box).

SURFACE PAINT. We used truck bed liner black paint for the exterior (Duplicolor brand as it has more texture than the Rustoleum brand).

AMPLIFIER. For the ampliifer, the Alpine MRP-M500 (300W RMS @ 4 ohms or 500W RMS at 2 ohms) will be used ($142 from Buy.com). The Alpine will fit snugly in the place of the left plastic surround on that's at the 7-8 oclock position of teh spare tire (just remove 3 nylon screws and lift out the plastic cover). With that plastic surround trim cover removed and mounting the amp there, the left aligning rod from the cargo bay tray will close and hit the amplifier--remove that arm's 2 screws to get it off. As 2 bolts are exposed on the unibody (as I have a hitch kit), we created a platform out of 1/2" MDF for the amp to be mounted on--pics to come in a few days--so the trim screws and hitch bolts are not jamming the amp from the bottom. EDIT: Instead of the Alpine, I ended up using a Kenwood X500-1 amplifier as it has a smaller footprint and easily fits in the very tight space.

SUBWOOFER. The older 10" Pioneer TS-SW251 (shallow mount; $65 shipped from Buy.com) will be used for the subwoofer. I debated using the newer TS-SW2501S4 (or the S2), and I'm sure it would have worked just as well (albiet a little more expensive but also more power handling; slightly faster frequency dropoff from 40Hz down vs. the older TS-SW251 however). A couple of other shallow mount subwoofers are also available by 2-3 other manufacturers--in the real world, they all probably would sound comparable.

WIRING. I plan on tapping the factory amp wiring (nav, non-DSP, 10 speaker stereo) later this week when the electronic parts arrive. Lots of good info on Xoutpost on how to access the factory amp wiring in the left cargo access compartment (just remove the CD changer's 4 front bolts to reveal the amp and wiring harness that's situated towards the floor).

RIGHT REAR ACCESS COVER. Will trim the plastic ribs on the cover to give the subwoofer more clearance. Then will cut out a 10" hole in the lower port of the cover. Ordered a mesh metal 10" 2 piece speaker cover (off eBay for $16; first piece is the cicular mount to go on the carpeted access cover, and the mesh screen then just snaps in place over the mount) so it will allow air movement into the car's rear bay and minimize rattling in the access compartment.

Will update once I get the full install done. Looking forward to getting a bit deeper sound than what seems like 70Hz that the stock stereo's tiny speakers can bottom out at. I also tried BSW midbass speakers and they don't help the least bit for bass--as the stock speakers sizes are too tiny to do any good for deep notes.

Can't wait to get some bass in my car--don't need thunderous bass, just to add it in for musical enjoyment. So far, thanks for the groundwork laid out by ZeroChief and Essam.

Zerochief design (original)
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Zerochief design (fit) [notice space that is not filled towards the spare tire]
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Modified Zerochief (fit) [extra space that protrudes under the plastic spare tire surround (the plastic spare tire surround trim still fits in place--not shown, though)]
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Truck Bedliner painted Modified Zerochief
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tmv 04-30-2012 11:57 AM

Look nice. How much internal volumm gain with the modification?

bagpype 04-30-2012 11:59 AM

Do you think from looking at it that an 8 inch sub with a 7 inch mounting depth could fit in your box? I have a jl audio 8 w7 that i would love to use but its a huge sub.


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