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Tom G. 08-07-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerDude
The Dice install has been probably the best upgrade on my X. I love it. Now I want to get a little more savy with some other downloads. Like there was a post a few weeks ago about the navi system that you can download different voices and sounds as you go throw the Ipod... Can anybody tell me where I can find this and how to install it on my navi? Thanks...

You must be referring to voicetags:

Adding Speech Voicetags to your DICE/iPod Playlists
http://www.xoutpost.com/bsws-mobile-e...playlists.html

Full details are at the link.

Tom G. 08-07-2007 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedoy
ok lets say between 195 bps and 160 bps is it better or worse?

160 kbps will be of porer quality than 192kbps. A good comparison of this are FM transmitters.

The marketing department of FM transmitters do wonders for advertising the device. Simply plug-in a device on your iPod, simply take an existing FM station on the FM band and tune it into your vehicle’s radio.

Most MP3s are recorded at a 128kbps to 192kbps, the higher the number, the better the sound. Most FM stations tune in at a 64kbps to 92kbps, depending on location and frequency. This is why you hear a drastic difference between FM radio and CD audio.

What you are essentially doing with an FM transmitter is transmitting the MP3 to a FM wave, drastically degrading the audio quality (by as much as 50%) to your vehicle’s FM band. FM transmitters are highly troublesome in urban areas, making locking into a signal almost impossible at times. You made a wise decision on purchasing the best MP3 player on the market – you deserve the best in vehicle integration.

We compare a FM transmitter on an iPod as equivalent to driving a Ferrari with the parking brake on.

Hope this helps.

Sedoy 08-07-2007 08:59 PM

Tom, all I'm trying to find out is if your kit for Digital DSP with 192 kbps MP3 song better or worse than stock changer at loud playback...?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom G.
160 kbps will be of porer quality than 192kbps. A good comparison of this are FM transmitters.

The marketing department of FM transmitters do wonders for advertising the device. Simply plug-in a device on your iPod, simply take an existing FM station on the FM band and tune it into your vehicle’s radio.

Most MP3s are recorded at a 128kbps to 192kbps, the higher the number, the better the sound. Most FM stations tune in at a 64kbps to 92kbps, depending on location and frequency. This is why you hear a drastic difference between FM radio and CD audio.

What you are essentially doing with an FM transmitter is transmitting the MP3 to a FM wave, drastically degrading the audio quality (by as much as 50%) to your vehicle’s FM band. FM transmitters are highly troublesome in urban areas, making locking into a signal almost impossible at times. You made a wise decision on purchasing the best MP3 player on the market – you deserve the best in vehicle integration.

We compare a FM transmitter on an iPod as equivalent to driving a Ferrari with the parking brake on.

Hope this helps.


Tom G. 08-07-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedoy
Tom, all I'm trying to find out is if your kit for Digital DSP with 192 kbps MP3 song better or worse than stock changer at loud playback...?

It's not a fair comparison as you are trying to compare a compressed file vs uncompressed. Typically, 192kbps is close to CD quality.

ssx5 08-08-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom G.
You connectors will be located in the cargo area on the driver's side behind the access panel. There you will see the 3/6 pin connectors.

Thanks for the response.

Behind the access panel there are a bunch of wires but none are loose.
Do I need to open the bottom black part which is to the left of the spare tire and to the right of the access panel?
Do you have a picture? It will help me finding the 3/6 connectors
Thanks

babysvt 08-08-2007 12:24 PM

I currently own an '01 X5 with DSP and NAV. I tried the FM transmitter and it sounded horrible so I decided to try the tape deck adapter and it sounds just as good as the CD even at louder volumes.

Is this unit even available for the '01? I have heard that there is no available iPod hookup for the '01. I think it was only available for '03 and newer.

I can live with the tape adapter because it really does sound great but hate the long cord hanging out of the middle of my dash.

Tom G. 08-08-2007 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssx5
Thanks for the response.

Behind the access panel there are a bunch of wires but none are loose.
Do I need to open the bottom black part which is to the left of the spare tire and to the right of the access panel?
Do you have a picture? It will help me finding the 3/6 connectors
Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by babysvt
I currently own an '01 X5 with DSP and NAV. I tried the FM transmitter and it sounded horrible so I decided to try the tape deck adapter and it sounds just as good as the CD even at louder volumes.

Is this unit even available for the '01? I have heard that there is no available iPod hookup for the '01. I think it was only available for '03 and newer.

I can live with the tape adapter because it really does sound great but hate the long cord hanging out of the middle of my dash.

Moving to Official DICE iPod integration kit Q/A thread: http://www.x3world.com/bsws-mobile-e...-thread-38.htm

slickdog 08-09-2007 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babysvt
I currently own an '01 X5 with DSP and NAV. I tried the FM transmitter and it sounded horrible so I decided to try the tape deck adapter and it sounds just as good as the CD even at louder volumes.

Is this unit even available for the '01? I have heard that there is no available iPod hookup for the '01. I think it was only available for '03 and newer.

I can live with the tape adapter because it really does sound great but hate the long cord hanging out of the middle of my dash.

The DIce adaptor works for early DSP if yopu look at an earlier post of mine you will see I have used the Dice DSP adaptor to connect up an Alpine CD unit. I did this as there was no other way to connect to the Co-axial (early ) DSP for aftermarket CD players.

Dice do a full ipod integration kit for the ipod which includes this unit.

babysvt 08-24-2007 12:02 PM

Since my last post I have purchased an '05 4.4i that has NAV but no CD changer. On the NAV screen under menu it does list DSP so I am assuming that I have DSP. I am looking to get the DICE setup instead of a CD changer. Am I understanding it correctly that I will need the DSP adapter with this and also if I want to add a CD Changer later can I do this too? I can't foresee me adding a CD Changer because if I can control my iPod from the steering wheel or NAV screen I don't really see the need for a CD Changer. Also, is this system as easy to use as they make it seem.

Thanks in advance for your help. I just want to make sure that I am doing this the right way.

slickdog 08-24-2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babysvt
Since my last post I have purchased an '05 4.4i that has NAV but no CD changer. On the NAV screen under menu it does list DSP so I am assuming that I have DSP. I am looking to get the DICE setup instead of a CD changer. Am I understanding it correctly that I will need the DSP adapter with this and also if I want to add a CD Changer later can I do this too?

You won't ned the DSP adaptor that is only required for the earlier Co-axail lead DSP units.

As for adding a CD changer also It may be possible but you will probably have to look at installing one as an aux input.


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