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motordavid 09-12-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ValveTronic (Post 659565)
I've been away for .... two years or so.. hostage to the housing / mortgage market.. what's going on here? Have the knowledgeable helpful moderators changed?

I am in NY now.. what have I missed?

The Board is run by first class owners/Admins, and the Mods are the same, meaning as good as they have always been.
The knowledge here is on par with any board of any kind, on the freakin web/planet, imo.

The "what oil to use" questions and the drive-by inane posts wear some of us out; esp. us old bastards that read this thing for a hobby...

Not to worry, we are all here to offer opins, ideas, help, and point reasonable posters toward reasonable links and data.

It's a board, so whining is expected, but it remains a thoroughly in-depth site for anything X5, BMW, cars, help, fixes,
life wonderments, etc., imo.
Glad you are back...

All of the above is simply my opin, as I/we try to be fair. :rofl:
GL,mD

ZsX5o3 09-15-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by motordavid (Post 659576)
The "what oil to use" questions and the drive-by inane posts wear some of us out; esp. us old bastards that read this thing for a hobby...

I've never seen so many unlearned posts catered to as they are on this forum.

I use e39 forum on bimmerforums and m3forum.net. I can't even read this forum any more. It's like special ed over here where everyone is equal regardless how stupid they are.

Sometimes some harsh discipline is needed to keep the morale and general level of sophistication in a place like this. I think this thread has turned you all into fearful nanny's. baby sitting the ridiculous posters and spoonfeeding them answers that were given just 10 minutes before.

We're probably closing in on 100 duplicate well answered threads in the last couple months alone. What does that turn this place into? An unintelligent spam fest.

You know what happens when noobies get bashed for making duplicate posts? Over time something amazing happens. People start searching and post intelligent, original content to the forum. This improves the user experience for everyone.

So please, be yourselves here. yes you should obey the forum rules and not make unreasonable personal attacks but please, do what you have to do to preserve the forum and improve the user experience for everyone.

Quicksilver 09-15-2009 07:37 PM

:iagree: ........ Glad to see someone is calling it like they see it. :thumbup:

x5GuyInLA 09-15-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZsX5o3 (Post 660277)
I've never seen so many unlearned posts catered to as they are on this forum.

I use e39 forum on bimmerforums and m3forum.net. I can't even read this forum any more. It's like special ed over here where everyone is equal regardless how stupid they are.

Sometimes some harsh discipline is needed to keep the morale and general level of sophistication in a place like this. I think this thread has turned you all into fearful nanny's. baby sitting the ridiculous posters and spoonfeeding them answers that were given just 10 minutes before.

We're probably closing in on 100 duplicate well answered threads in the last couple months alone. What does that turn this place into? An unintelligent spam fest.

You know what happens when noobies get bashed for making duplicate posts? Over time something amazing happens. People start searching and post intelligent, original content to the forum. This improves the user experience for everyone.

So please, be yourselves here. yes you should obey the forum rules and not make unreasonable personal attacks but please, do what you have to do to preserve the forum and improve the user experience for everyone.

I'm curious as to what level do you want to keep the morale of a forum at with harsh discipline? If it's up, how does harsh discipline do that? While I agree people should do a search before posting, the search function doesn't always yield what you're looking for, even if it's been asked a bunch of times. And in the grand scheme of things, is it really that big of a deal if a question is asked when the answer is just a search button away? We have to realize that not everyone is computer savvy and we should give them that benefit of the doubt. This may also be their first time visiting any forum, as it was for me when I joined, so maybe they're not aware of the search function just yet. And since it probably takes just as much time to reprimand someone for asking an answered questions as it does to answer the question, why not make the noobie feel welcome and just answer it? BTW, wasn't one of the reasons this forum was created was because the founders wanted a friendlier place to post and visit?

Quicksilver 09-15-2009 10:24 PM

Just to clarify I don't believe anyone should bash/rag/insult/demean anyone
who ask for information But Kumbahya fever aside (I stole that Kumbahya thing). I believe MD has a point.



Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid (Post 659576)
The Board is run by first class owners/Admins, and the Mods are the same, meaning as good as they have always been.
The knowledge here is on par with any board of any kind, on the freakin web/planet, imo.

The "what oil to use" questions and the drive-by inane posts wear some of us out; esp. us old bastards that read this thing for a hobby...

Not to worry, we are all here to offer opins, ideas, help, and point reasonable posters toward reasonable links and data.

It's a board, so whining is expected, but it remains a thoroughly in-depth site for anything X5, BMW, cars, help, fixes,
life wonderments, etc., imo.
Glad you are back...

All of the above is simply my opin, as I/we try to be fair. :rofl:
GL,mD


roadfrog 09-15-2009 10:46 PM

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The "what oil to use" questions and the drive-by inane posts wear some of us out; esp. us old bastards that read this thing for a hobby
??? Why would it wear you out unless you actually go the trouble of reading that "duplicate post"? When I'm changing channels on the TV and I see a rerun, I change channels. I don't sit through it and fume.

Quicksilver 09-16-2009 05:31 AM

Good advice provided that I love lucy isn't changing oil/transmission fluid/batteries/ and hunting for a dip stick on every channel........:rofl::rofl:

ZsX5o3 09-16-2009 07:18 PM

sorry if my rant offended anyone, I've just been frustrated with the forum lately. If everything on the front page is a rerun it does tend to wear on you.

motordavid 09-16-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZsX5o3 (Post 660839)
sorry if my rant offended anyone, I've just been frustrated with the forum lately. If everything on the front page is a rerun it does tend to wear on you.

:iagree: ...

No offense here. I thought you hit the nail on the head....

and, Roadfrog:
I'm not "bored"; it was an expression. For those of you that want to step up and respond to the dozens of repetitive "questions" posted here each week, feel free to add in. But, your analogy on "changing channels" will not provide much help for those "questions", as it seems you will be passing on them. Is no/few responses to the umptyseventh "what oil to use" question better than a couple of links and pointer toward the Search Tab?

Back at the Let'sAllHoldHandsRanch, it still takes the usual 2 dozenish here to respond with some info or links, or opins. If everyone is sitting back waiting to comment, not much will get answered or pointed in the right direction, imo.
BR,mD
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roadfrog 09-16-2009 09:16 PM

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But, your analogy on "changing channels" will not provide much help for those "questions", as it seems you will be passing on them.
I did'nt say I would pass on them...I was referring to those members that are bothered by repeat posts. Personally, they don't bother me. :dunno:


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