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mautzi 04-13-2009 03:59 PM

totally stumped
 
replaced, both cats, 4 02 sensors, still had cutting fuel/throttle at various rpm and not moving or shifting, couldn't get uphill, car would rev but no power, no changing of gears (had tranny recently rebuilt, took back to shop, they say gears shift perfectly couldn't reproduce my problem). drove the car a few days and sure enough the same symptoms, car is moving, hit the gas rpms get to 4500, no gear shift no additional power then get SES light. REad codes get P0172 and P0174. Read the forums folks say mostly likely MAF, just replaced the MAF took for a spin and the same thing just happened. I didn't push it the SES point yet, but I can reproduce. Any other thoughts or ideas? I'm gonna try fuel system cleaner, then maybe fuel filter but man I am stumped.

thanks



Puddlejumper 04-13-2009 05:54 PM

crank sensor

mikeb33 04-13-2009 05:59 PM

I'd like to see a fuel pressure guage while it is doing it.

mautzi 04-13-2009 06:26 PM

kept driving it to force SES and I finally did (also Fail Trans Safe mode). Read the code and only had a single error code (using Actron) P0731 Gear ratio incorrect - this a new code, never had it before

gonna research that next

jst2878 04-13-2009 07:43 PM

vacuum leak?

amacman 04-13-2009 10:35 PM

disa valve?

Weasel 04-13-2009 10:56 PM

May be worth paying the extra few bucks for dealer diagnosis, and asking your SA if it can be looked at by an experienced master tech to work on it so little things don't get overlooked by a less experienced tech.

mautzi 04-25-2009 07:00 PM

took it to a Euro car specialist and they determined that it was the ABS control unit. They replaced it and after 2 days of driving the car seems to have fixed the problem.

X5 Meister 04-25-2009 08:00 PM

Toaster.

mautzi 04-25-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 612214)
Toaster.


??? what does that mean?

Weasel 04-25-2009 08:54 PM

If the British made a toaster I bet it would leak oil?!?

mautzi 04-25-2009 09:01 PM

sorry man, I still don't get it

amacman 04-25-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 612226)
If the British made a toaster I bet it would leak oil?!?

:rolleyes: where else could bmw learn such bad habits .
did you know they built the austin 7 under licence way back when .

Weasel 04-26-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mautzi (Post 612228)
sorry man, I still don't get it

Probably just a bad joke gone worse. Glad to hear she's fixed now. I too just had to replace my DSC module (abs control). It sounds like maybe it had bad wheel speed sensor circuits and thought you were spinning your tires, thus cutting power and pulsating brakes. These vehicles can have some really unique problems due to the complexity of the systems. Sometimes the easiest way to fix it is to get the problem to cause the faults to store and get all the faults read and analyzed with the proper equipment.

RevJunky 08-28-2009 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mautzi (Post 605976)
replaced, both cats, 4 02 sensors, still had cutting fuel/throttle at various rpm and not moving or shifting, couldn't get uphill, car would rev but no power, no changing of gears (had tranny recently rebuilt, took back to shop, they say gears shift perfectly couldn't reproduce my problem). drove the car a few days and sure enough the same symptoms, car is moving, hit the gas rpms get to 4500, no gear shift no additional power then get SES light. REad codes get P0172 and P0174. Read the forums folks say mostly likely MAF, just replaced the MAF took for a spin and the same thing just happened. I didn't push it the SES point yet, but I can reproduce. Any other thoughts or ideas? I'm gonna try fuel system cleaner, then maybe fuel filter but man I am stumped.

thanks



I'm having the exact same problems. The car starts and idles perfectly but when I apply more than about 20% throttle, the engine cuts out and feels like the fuel is getting cut like it was hitting the rev limiter. If I don't apply more than 20% throttle, the car drives fine and shifts through the gears. I can even rev it up to redline in park as long as I don't apply more than 20% throttle. It also threw P0171 and P174 codes so I replaced the MAF with no success and the problem still exists but the SES codes have not come back.

Has it been confirmed this is a problem with the DSC modules / ABS control unit? Can anyone tell me the part number for this part?

mautzi 08-28-2009 07:47 AM

that was definitely my problem - it has not surfaced since they changed the ABS control unit. I don't recall teh part # but can dig it up. It's anotehr not so difficult to do yourself job (I'm told) but you will need your car re programmed after it's installed. Good luck!

Weasel 08-28-2009 08:15 AM

When the parts to repair cost as much as in these cases, it should be well worth it to have dealer diagnosis done so you don't change the wrong parts based on what someone elses problem was... Paying less than $200 to save up to $2000 seems right to me.

RevJunky 08-31-2009 01:06 PM

I hooked up a fuel pressure gauge to the car and discovered that the fuel pressure was dropping when I applied more throttle so I went ahead and changed the fuel filter. That solved the problem! Car runs perfectly now!

Fuel filters usually don't clog so dramatically but I think it was a result of the 2 failed fuel pumps I had 30k miles ago. Common practice is to replace fuel filters when you replace fuel pumps but they were replace under warranty and the dealer didn't do so.


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