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///Bruce 10-09-2009 04:24 PM

Remember, I was first with this idea!
 
Seems someone did the research to find that Alpina designed the 4.6 and 4.8 engines and then BMW built the engines from their designs.

So... I'm looking for a 68mm Alpina emblem to fit on the front of the engine cover where the standard roundel now resides. Then... I intend to have the engine cover painted RED. I figure this ought to add some pizzazz. I'll post pics when eventually done.

AlpineMsix 10-09-2009 06:21 PM

something like this


http://www.starvin4sport.0nyx.com/images/B7engine.jpg


i wouldnt suggest putting an alpine badge unless u have done engine work through alpina.. thats like putting an M/// badge on ur engine when its not an X5 m

///Bruce 10-09-2009 06:25 PM

Yes. Like that. But I read the article. And, we know if it's written down, it HAS to be true. Right?

I'll look for the article later.

sethro 10-09-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Bruce (Post 668056)
Seems someone did the research to find that Alpina designed the 4.6 and 4.8 engines and then BMW built the engines from their designs.

So... I'm looking for a 68mm Alpina emblem to fit on the front of the engine cover where the standard roundel now resides. Then... I intend to have the engine cover painted RED. I figure this ought to add some pizzazz. I'll post pics when eventually done.

Sounds good, you can get a whole bunch of Alpina emblems off ebay, are you painting it yourself? (doing all the sanding, priming etc.)

But if I were you I would leave the BMW logo and simply add something like this : http://www.bmwz4roadster.net/Engines/Z4Alpina3000cc.jpg

///Bruce 10-09-2009 07:27 PM

I actually am planning on painting it myself. I'll try a sall sample area and based on the results either do it myself or outsource it. As far as the Alpina emblem, I can't find an emblem that is right at 68mm. However I did find a sticker that is an overlay that's 65mm (that's the 'inside' measurement of the emblem itself).

I haven't decided on color yet. I first thought of RED, but the bright silver is very striking. So, I'm hedging right now. I won't do anything until I get the sticker in.

jsears 10-09-2009 07:32 PM

This was posted by Killcrap a while ago:

Quote:

if your vin has FA91, FA92, or FA93, it is a X5ALPINA

5UXFA91XXXXXXXXXX
5UXFA92XXXXXXXXXX
5UXFA93XXXXXXXXXX

H FA91 V0103 80910000 0000000000000000 0000000000 1 N62B48 LL X5ALPINA //X5 HP LHD // Einsatz geplant 04/04
H FA91 V0903 80910000 0002000400054917 0000000001 1 N62B48 LL X5ALPINA //X5 HP LHD // Einsatz geplant 04/04
FA91 80910000 0302000400054917 0000000001 1 N62B48 LL X5ALPINA //X5 HP LHD // Einsatz 04/04 bis 09/06
H FA92 V0103 80920000 0000000000000000 0000000000 1 N62B48 RL X5ALPINA //X5 HP RHD // Einsatz geplant 04/04
H FA92 V0903 80920000 0002000400054817 0000000001 1 N62B48 RL X5ALPINA //X5 HP RHD // Einsatz geplant 04/04
FA92 80920000 0302000400054817 0000000001 1 N62B48 RL X5ALPINA //X5 HP RHD // Einsatz 04/04 bis 09/06
H FA93 V0103 80930000 0000000000000000 0000000000 1 N62B48 LL US X5ALPINA //X5 HP US // Einsatz geplant 04/04
H FA93 V0503 80930000 000A000500044907 0000000001 1 N62B48 LL US X5ALPINA //X5 HP US // Einsatz geplant 04/04
FA93 80930000 010A000500844907 0000000001 1 N62B48 LL US X5ALPINA //X5 HP US // Einsatz 04/04 bis 09/06


H FB91 V1000 81910000 0000000000000000 0000000000 1 M62B46 LL X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 LHD
H FB91 V0602 81910000 0000000000054B17 0000000001 1 M62B46 LL X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 LHD
FB91 81910000 0002000000054B17 0000000001 1 M62B46 LL X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 LHD with SA226 // Einsatz 10/01 bis 09/03
H FB92 V1000 81920000 0000000000000000 0000000000 1 M62B46 RL X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 RHD
H FB92 V0602 81920000 0000000000054A17 0000000001 1 M62B46 RL X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 RHD
FB92 81920000 0002000000054A17 0000000001 1 M62B46 RL X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 RHD with SA226 // Einsatz 10/01 bis 09/03
H FB93 V1000 81930000 0000000000000000 0000000000 1 M62B46 LL US X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 US
H FB93 V1001 81930000 0000002180844B17 0000000001 1 M62B46 LL US X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 US with Side airbag f rr compartment passengers
H FB93 V0602 81930000 0000002180844B07 0000000001 1 M62B46 LL US X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 US without Side airbag f rr compartment passengers
FB93 81930000 0002002180844B07 0000000001 1 M62B46 LL US X5ALPINA //X5ALPINA 4.6 US with SA226 // Einsatz 10/01 bis 09/03
Additionally this information was provided from another BMW board:
Quote:

The Alpine 4.6l V8 engine is Alpinas own design and porting/polishing/assembling is being done by hand at the Alpina factory in Buchloe.
The BMW engine is identical (i.e. Alpinas design) apart from it being assembled at BMW and the fact that BMW doesn't port and polish the heads, balance the combustion chambers or the crankshaft.
So the BMW engine actually has lower power output and worse efficiency than the Alpina engine. Even though the specs are identical. Shorther lifespan of the crankshaft bearings are also to be expected for the BMW engine.
But these differences are the usual differences between craftmanship and mass produced goods.
To me, since there was no official release of an Alpina E53, this is very much like putting ///M3 badges all over a 318i. Having Alpina "touch" the engine, doesn't make the X5 an Alpina X5.

But it's your car and your choice!

jst2878 10-09-2009 11:08 PM

save your money for other mods besides a mere false advertisement that only generates laughs at your expense. dont mean to be cruel but what your thinking about doing is just that. save up for the motors supercharger and keep it a sleeper. My advice could be crap, so if you go with the original plan I would add chrome accents throughout the x. Sorry dude i had to vent irresponsibly on this one

killcrap 10-09-2009 11:31 PM

false advertisement? the alpina badge DOES belong on this vehicle. Someone who laughs at that is just not in the know. Flared wheel arches, 20" wheels, tacho cluster, different engine and trans, bigger brakes, front and rear aprons. Look at a 330 vs m3, whats different? the same things are changed. But if it were really an alpina, the interior leather would not be just NAPPA, it would be NAPPA, and some green/blue/red stitching and different steering wheel.

LeMansX5 10-09-2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsears (Post 668107)
This was posted by Killcrap a while ago:



Additionally this information was provided from another BMW board:


To me, since there was no official release of an Alpina E53, this is very much like putting ///M3 badges all over a 318i. Having Alpina "touch" the engine, doesn't make the X5 an Alpina X5.

But it's your car and your choice!

I wonder what's the source of Killcrap's info. There is no "Alpina X5". Only Alpina contribution is that they gave the blue prints of engine design to BMW for mass production.

FA93 in VIN is USA body code for all X5 4.8is.
FA91 & FA92 is body code for Europe bound X5 4.58is

simoncpw 10-10-2009 12:10 AM

Um.... then,
- Peogueot deserves a Mini badge since it shares they same engine?!
- Toureang deserves a Porche badge since it shares the same platform?!
- SaangYang deserves a Merc badge since it uses the Merc's engine?!


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