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[email protected] 02-20-2010 11:13 AM
ARE REPLACEMENT INTERMEDIATE LEVERS DIFFERENT
 
Based on the SES light coming on for a few days then going out (no misfiring or rough start I could notice), and a stored fault code my 2004 X5 4.4 has been diagnosed by the dealer as needing replacement intermediate levers. Of course my car is a couple of months beyond Certified warranty and at 50,000 miles

My question is are the replacement levers being sold now redesigned or manufactured to better quality control than those originally equipped?

In other words, can I expect the replacement levers to fail in another 50K miles?

thanks,

JimL

dirtdevilnc 02-20-2010 11:51 AM
The fact that they failed in 50k miles is baffling to me. I am constantly reminded on this site by stories like this that BMW could learn a lesson or two from the Japanese in quality control.
As for the replacement parts I am not sure if they have been improved upon.

anerbe 02-20-2010 12:32 PM
^ :rofl: more like honda control

A temporary rough cold start on an 04 is better than a stuck accelerator on a 2010 :cool:

Not saying that BMW is better in quality, but the recent news hitting shows that the Japanese aren't the "quality kings" as people perceive them. A company can build up a good reputation by sweeping problems under a rug.

killcrap 02-21-2010 09:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 715267)
Based on the SES light coming on for a few days then going out (no misfiring or rough start I could notice), and a stored fault code my 2004 X5 4.4 has been diagnosed by the dealer as needing replacement intermediate levers. Of course my car is a couple of months beyond Certified warranty and at 50,000 miles

My question is are the replacement levers being sold now redesigned or manufactured to better quality control than those originally equipped?

In other words, can I expect the replacement levers to fail in another 50K miles?

thanks,

JimL

the first time you replace them on a 2004 MY, the car may be fine for 1 year, the next year, they will act up again and BMW will parts warranty them, then the next year, they will replace both cylinder heads. several 2004 engines have recieved cylinder heads after multiple intermediate lever replacements.

[email protected] 02-21-2010 10:36 AM
thank you. that's the information I was hoping for.

JimL

loobie 03-03-2010 10:31 AM
Mine is in right now for the 2nd replacement. They told me that this replacement is a different part number than the first levers. The first replacement of the levers and shafts was a couple months ago. How long do I need to go before they do the heads?

jst2878 03-03-2010 11:43 AM
true, but that design flaw in toyota didnt halt the motion like the I.L's do to x5's





Quote:
Originally Posted by anerbe (Post 715281)
^ :rofl: more like honda control

A temporary rough cold start on an 04 is better than a stuck accelerator on a 2010 :cool:

Not saying that BMW is better in quality, but the recent news hitting shows that the Japanese aren't the "quality kings" as people perceive them. A company can build up a good reputation by sweeping problems under a rug.

anerbe 03-03-2010 05:33 PM
Personally, I see the IL issue as an inconvenience. Turn off, restart and it's alright. Otherwise, wait until the car warms up a bit.

Unintended acceleration is in a different league, IMO.


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