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demondali 11-29-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beemarman
Same happened to me and i told them my cousin from the states must have been driving. I gave them his name and address in the states and never heard from them again.

He never got a letter so case closed.

What if they asked for proof of their insurance? or something similar to that?

demondali 11-29-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by adrian.b
I dont think they have to prove it, the owner of the vehicle is responsible and should know who was driving. I would be tempted to delay them by putting your wifes name on the form, then when she gets it, put your fathers name on it... I`m sure they`ll drop it eventually.

This is really what the situation is. I think its my wife! She doesnt think it was her! She thinks it was my dad! My dad thinks it was either me or my wife! Well it wasnt me so it must be my wife! They not bothered as the letter has come addressed to me!

I totally agree - you shouldnt speed! If it was me i would have admitted it! (Honestly) why you doubt me? :dunno: ha

beemarman 11-29-2005 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by demondali
What if they asked for proof of their insurance? or something similar to that?

They dont ask for proof of insurance when it a speeding offence, they only want to know who the driver was. As long as you give them a name and an address they is nothing else they can do.

bozo 11-29-2005 01:34 PM

Look. The "RIGHT" answer is YOU as the driver are responsible, and if they dont get an answer from YOU, (the constabulary should have advised you when and where to produce your MOT, Road Tax and Insurance within 3 days) they will "threaten" you to meet court in about 90 days from now. Wehter or not you show up is your prerogative((sp?...Ill have to consult Juan on that..;))

Anyway, the "REAL" answer is like someone else mentioned ealier in the thread...You will probably not hear anymore about it since the workload is just too large to deal with....The amount of people I know that have outstanding fines for YEARS is amazing...I dont think thats the case in the states...

Juanted 11-29-2005 01:50 PM

1. You spelled it right, bozo. :D

2. Just recently, I received a speeding ticket from Venice! Yes, Venice, Italy, not Venice, CA. I was driving a rental car, and somehow (rental company, I guess?) they got my address and sent me the ticket here in the US -- albeit 18 months later! (The ticket is from March of '04.) We called them (thank God my wife speaks Italian), and they said this: if you're never coming back here, don't worry about it. (I appreciated their honesty.) If, however, you plan to come back to Italy (and we do often), we advise that you pay the ticket; otherwise, all your driving privileges will be taken away, and you'll never be able to even rent a car here. We paid it. My wife, of course, won't let me hear the end of it - stating that even in Italy the traffic cops want me. :o

My advice is just pay it. Is it even worth fighting it? :dunno:

Juan

demondali 11-29-2005 06:41 PM

Its not the fine i am worried about. Its only £60.
Its the penalty points that you get with it. In this case is carries 3 points.
12 points and you've lost your driving lience for a year.
Takes approx 4 years to clear 3 points from your lience!

see my concerns

JCL 11-29-2005 09:51 PM

I just see you dodging responsibility. Sorry, nothing personal.

Own up to it, or decide between you, your wife, and your father, who will do so. If you don't know who was driving, give them the name of the registered owner, and that's it. The burden of proof is on the registered owner, to provide the name and details if they weren't driving, not on the police to play a guessing game.

UCrewX5 11-29-2005 09:55 PM

Tell them that one of your acquaintances from the U.S. (UCrewX5) was over for a few days to test drive your X5 as part of an investigative feature for an upcoming X5world exclusive article. Tell them that if they need contact information for the person, who lives in the United States, you'll have to get back to them ;)

LVR 11-30-2005 02:04 AM

Please don't take this personally, but if you do the crime....

There are many stories of how people with outstanding fines get lost in the system until one day (and I think this happened in the US) the authorities invite a whole bunch of people to a free lunch/prize winning then promptly arrest them.

It will not go away.

Send the letter back nominating who you think the driver is, and let the two of them sort it out. Their conscience should not allow you to take the rap for something they did.

There is also the economics of the 3 points. Unless your wife is the breadwinner for your family, then taking the points for her may jeopardise your licence/work at some point in the future.

The system will win in the end as it will always be on record...... and it is karma that it will come back and bite you when you can least afford it........

bozo 11-30-2005 01:53 PM

Oh yeah, forgot one minor point. As I found out the hard way in Essex (doing 70 in a 40mph construction zone) is that those "pictures" arent some dodgy print of a number plate. They get the DRIVER, and mine for example was pretty damn clear...I couldnt really get out of it..

Hey you could always call these guys..Since then, theyve set about 300 hundred speed cameras ablaze..
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UK: A5 Camera Set on Fire
Burning tire destroys Warwickshire, UK speed camera on the A5.

A burning tire was used to destroy a speed camera on the A5 at Redgate in Warwickshire, UK around midnight on Sunday. This is the third attack on the ticketing device in the past two years. In May, a burning tire inflicted £38,000 in damages. In 2003, Martin James O'Callaghan cut down the camera with an angle grinder. O'Callaghan pleaded guilty and was ordered to pay a fine of £4,000 and perform 120 hours of community service.

Warwickshire Police estimate the latest damage at £20,000 and are looking for suspects.

Source: Arsonists Target Speed Camera (Press Association News (UK), 11/21/2005)


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