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04_4.8isX5 11-16-2010 07:49 PM

Extremely horrible x5 transmission experience, long time-multiple BMW owner
 
I thought I'd share my most extremely frustrating situation with this forum. I own a 2004 BMW x5 4.8is, beautiful vehicle with only now 48,000miles on it. My wife and I purchased this vehicle from an independent broker in Seattle when it had only a little more than 35,000 miles on it. Lately the x5 has been doing the infamous "lurch" transmission issue and having problems shifting up after about 3rd gear or so. It happens randomnly and inconsistently and not in sport mode.

I have owned aproximately 7 BMW's, raised on working on my own cars and always maintaining them and I am very meticulous to the point some may call OCD! We bought this X5 to drive my wife and our new 10mth old son in.

Getting to the point, I took it to our local Salem BMW dealer/service location and received the diagnosis that the entire transmission needs to be replaced! What's more shocking is the price they gave me would be anywhere from 9500 to aproximately 10,000 for labor and to replace it. After being in shock and upset I tried to speak to the dealer about any type of break or cost reduction, goodwill or anything for us and was denied from both the dealer and BMW NA. When speaking for over 30minutes to BMW NA about my history with them, and the issue, they just told me they couldn't and wouldn't help me since it is no longer under warranty and hadn't been serviced through them since I've owned it. I tried to explain that the car had less than 50,000 miles on it, the transmission in "BMW" terms is lifetime fluid and not to be serviced, the car has been EXTREMELY well taken care of and maintained with records of all the parts I have purchased for it, as well as m other vehicles. They didn't care, they told me they wouldn't do anything but file a complaint.

I currently own a BMW e39 540i as well, have owned multiple e30's, e36's but this experience has made me decide against ever buying a bmw again. We will probably trade this x5 and may get rid of my 540i also for something else and definitely not a BMW because of this experience. I am so so soooo very dissapointed.

-Nathan

Naz24 11-16-2010 08:01 PM

I do empathize with your situation--my transmission failed( luckily I was still under CPO warranty)

However, this is not the place to say you will never buy a BMW again. Were here to help, not listen to you rant about how much you hate your X5-- as it is a direct insult to us. We all are in love with our X5s.

Sorry that came out a bit harsh, just saying what everyone else here is thinking

With that off my chest, may I suggest going to an independent or specialty transmission shop? The price will be a fraction of what it is at the dealer.or If you are very mechanically inclined, you can rebuild it yourself. I think there are a couple DIY write-ups on it here.

Don't complain, because we have solutions!

diyanich 11-16-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 04_4.8isX5 (Post 781957)
I thought I'd share my most extremely frustrating situation with this forum. I own a 2004 BMW x5 4.8is, beautiful vehicle with only now 48,000miles on it. My wife and I purchased this vehicle from an independent broker in Seattle when it had only a little more than 35,000 miles on it. Lately the x5 has been doing the infamous "lurch" transmission issue and having problems shifting up after about 3rd gear or so. It happens randomnly and inconsistently and not in sport mode.

I have owned aproximately 7 BMW's, raised on working on my own cars and always maintaining them and I am very meticulous to the point some may call OCD! We bought this X5 to drive my wife and our new 10mth old son in.

Getting to the point, I took it to our local Salem BMW dealer/service location and received the diagnosis that the entire transmission needs to be replaced! What's more shocking is the price they gave me would be anywhere from 9500 to aproximately 10,000 for labor and to replace it. After being in shock and upset I tried to speak to the dealer about any type of break or cost reduction, goodwill or anything for us and was denied from both the dealer and BMW NA. When speaking for over 30minutes to BMW NA about my history with them, and the issue, they just told me they couldn't and wouldn't help me since it is no longer under warranty and hadn't been serviced through them since I've owned it. I tried to explain that the car had less than 50,000 miles on it, the transmission in "BMW" terms is lifetime fluid and not to be serviced, the car has been EXTREMELY well taken care of and maintained with records of all the parts I have purchased for it, as well as m other vehicles. They didn't care, they told me they wouldn't do anything but file a complaint.

I currently own a BMW e39 540i as well, have owned multiple e30's, e36's but this experience has made me decide against ever buying a bmw again. We will probably trade this x5 and may get rid of my 540i also for something else and definitely not a BMW because of this experience. I am so so soooo very dissapointed.

-Nathan

Sorry to hear that,hey,but come on it's a shame the situation with those trannys,but why don't you go to get a quote from an independent transmission shop?
I bet it's gonna be at list half of what they are asking for.
As many of guy pointed in the tranny's threads,you have to run them hard rather than pampering.
I would go to the tranny shop and ask to change the fluid and filter,but point for the right one OE Filter and Fluid which is an ESSO ATF LT 71141 BMW PART NUMBER 83 22 9 407 807 20 LITER BLUE LIFETIME FILL
If that doesn't help get it checked further,may be it's a mechatronic's unit fault.
Come on,give it a try!
Don't hate it,just get a second opinion..it always rewards at the end :thumbup:

04_4.8isX5 11-16-2010 08:15 PM

Apparently I'm not making myself clear because I am frustrated. I loved my x5, my previous experiences and current with other makes of BMW's have been also overall good, however, customer service and loyalty is important in todays economy and market, BMW in this situation has really dropped the ball. The lack of support, and interest in keeping a longtime bmw customer is a huge dissapointmnent and demonstrates how little they stand behind there vehicle. I am far from the only one that has experienced the infamous "transmission lurch" issue with their x5. This is a major common issue being ignored by bmw. I will take my 13+ years of being a bmw parts (thousands and thousands of dollars) and vehicles relationship to a new manufaacturer. Benz lexus, acura? Hmmmm.... Options!
-Nathan

Naz24 11-16-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 04_4.8isX5 (Post 781964)
Apparently I'm not making myself clear because I am frustrated. I loved my x5, my previous experiences and current with other makes of BMW's have been also overall good, however, customer service and loyalty is important in todays economy and market, BMW in this situation has really dropped the ball. The lack of support, and interest in keeping a longtime bmw customer is a huge dissapointmnent and demonstrates how little they stand behind there vehicle. I am far from the only one that has experienced the infamous "transmission lurch" issue with their x5. This is a major common issue being ignored by bmw. I will take my 13+ years of being a bmw parts (thousands and thousands of dollars) and vehicles relationship to a new manufaacturer. Benz lexus, acura? Hmmmm.... Options!
-Nathan

We UNDERSTAND your frustration. Sorry to hear it. But take it from BMWs pov, they cannot replace your tranny without a warranty, bc then they will have to replace EVERYONES tranny.

Try an Indy shop--seriously

JCL 11-16-2010 08:26 PM

You are unlikely to get any help from the dealer, since you didn't purchase it from them. Looks like you got a better deal at an independent, fair enough. Have you asked your independent broker to pay something towards your transmission, given that they made the profit on the sale? I don't think you would have any luck, but it illustrates the point that you chose not to purchase from a dealer, and not to have your vehicle serviced at the dealer since then. Asking for a policy or goodwill contribution from a dealer will always work better if you are a customer of that dealer.

Given how thin margins are in the dealer business, as nice as it would be for them to recognize your long time BMW loyalty, it just isn't going to happen.

Do you think that Mercedes or another manufacturer would be different in this case?

Also, don't pay the 10k to fix it at the dealer, go to a transmission shop and get it overhauled. Don't bother with a fluid change IMO.

diyanich 11-16-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 781969)
You are unlikely to get any help from the dealer, since you didn't purchase it from them. Looks like you got a better deal at an independent, fair enough. Have you asked your independent broker to pay something towards your transmission, given that they made the profit on the sale? I don't think you would have any luck, but it illustrates the point that you chose not to purchase from a dealer, and not to have your vehicle serviced at the dealer since then. Asking for a policy or goodwill contribution from a dealer will always work better if you are a customer of that dealer.

Given how thin margins are in the dealer business, as nice as it would be for them to recognize your long time BMW loyalty, it just isn't going to happen.

Do you think that Mercedes or another manufacturer would be different in this case?

Also, don't pay the 10k to fix it at the dealer, go to a transmission shop and get it overhauled. Don't bother with a fluid change IMO.

:iagree:
Probably you'll miss your bimmers if you do get them sold.

SlowRider 11-16-2010 09:22 PM

Unfortunately, this is a risk you take with buying any used car from an independent seller. You bought it with 35k miles and you say you pampered it for 13k miles, but who knows how the previous owner/s drove it?

Jordo 11-16-2010 09:47 PM

I'll tell you what. I'll buy that x5 off of you for $10k underblue book. Deal?

(then I'll have the trany over hauled for less then $2,500. Sell it and make a quick $7,500.)

Naz24 11-16-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo (Post 781987)
I'll tell you what. I'll buy that x5 off of you for $10k underblue book. Deal?

(then I'll have the trany over hauled for less then $2,500. Sell it and make a quick $7,500.)

Haha, I'll do the same! Time for a bidding war jordo!


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