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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 934971)

Nezar--what color is the fluid? Will you be DIY? Do you know that the replacement part is in good shape? Getting stiffer after running for some time could be getting a joint hot if they are not good and cause binding. No Clicking noise when you turn the wheel?

Thanks bcredliner for your reply.
I used a non-bmw RED fluid. the replacement part was good and smooth, no backlash noticed. No clicking noise when I turn.

I'm gonna change the red fluid with a BMW-approved fluid as first step, then I'll let you know, thanks again.

Hey all, great job with pics and detailed explanation. I have owned the wife's X5 (4.4) since new in 03. I also have an 03 4.6is. Her steering has always been stiffer. Been changing fluid for awhile so it has always been clean never the burnt brown so many people describe.

But lately her steering has been making kind of a squeak when turning to right and she just now started complaining that it is getting stiff. I told her she should go back to the gym cuz she is getting weak. But I too noticed it getting pretty stiff at slow speed, mostly parking.

I always suspected the power steering pump but you all have me convinced I should replace this double joint. I think I will get it ordered and set aside some time in the next few weeks to get her done. This forum rocks as do people like Mr. Fix it and Nezar. Thanks. Sure appreciate your time and knowledge.

Anyone have a good idea on where to buy it? Price? Thanks in advance for suggestions.

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Originally Posted by MrFixIt (Post 934753)

I just replaced the double joint on my X5 (2003 4.4 with duel heater water regulator. Not much room to work, but I took a short cut. Actual job took only 42 minutes, and I was going very slow.

OP, thank you for posting this DIY:thumbup:. Spent hours reading all the posts related to this problem, and more hours staring at the double joint on the X trying to figure out how to remove the lower torx bolt (#10) without having to remove all the hoses like the OP did.

I did not remove any water hoses (hrs of extra work avoided). Here is what I did:

1. (Safety) Waited until the X5 engine compartment was completely cold before starting any work.

2. Jacked the front of the X5 up slightly; put on jack stand (safety). This will allow you to manipulate the steering wheel easily and without putting too much torque on the double joint while the upper torx is removed. Also gave me a little more room to work from the bottom.

3. Dead centered the steering wheel to expose the upper torx bolt.

4. Removed the three 10mm bolts holding the heater regulator against the wall (see pic), and sort of pushed the entire hoses/unit out of the way enough to clear sufficient room to work the upper bolt on the double joint. Removed the upper torx bolt (used long extension). Kept the steering column attached after removing upper bolt.

5. From dead center, turned steering wheel (gently) 180 degrees left or right (BMW logo will be upside down). This will align the bottom torx bolt to the rear of the X5 where it will easily be accessible.

6. Approached the X5 from the front and under. You should be able to access the lower bolt with an extension and remove the bolt. I found it was easiest to position the ratchet extension above the sway bar--the angle of attack was almost perfect. Removed the bolt.

7. Went back up to work from the top. Removed the double joint. Pulled up on the steering column; it easily disengaged from the double joint.

8. Reached down and pulled up the lower part of the double to disengage it from the bottom splines. Took a slightly more force, but came off easily.

9. Gently maneuvered the double joint out.

10. Cleaned the contact points of the steering column and the lower part/spines. Applied a light coat of high temp grease.

11. Installed double joint. Did the lower first; aligned and gently pushed down. (do not force if jammed).

12. Aligned steering column and upper double joint--gently pulled down the column. It should fall in smoothly--did. Had to turn steering wheel slightly to properly align the slots.

13. Went back under the X and installed the torx bolt (must use new bolt). Torqued to spec (I torqued to "yep, that's good and tight"--hard to get a torque wrench in there).

14. Gently turned steering wheel back to dead center.

15. Installed the upper torx bolt (must use new bolt) and torqued to spec.

16. Tested steering wheel with a few turns--silky smooth and felt as new.

17. Removed jack stands and lowered the X.

18. Reinstalled the three 10mm bolts on the water heater regulator. Inspected all hoses/connections, put them all back in their places, and double checked all work. Done!

19. Road tested--WOW! It's new again. No more popping, cracking, clicking. Nice and tight and zero play.

The old double joint was so loose and clunky. The black rubber bushings were deteriorated.

Mr.Fixit and everyone else. Great write up. Thanks a million.

I ordered the steering joint a couple of months ago but hesitated to installing it. Just finished and all in all it took me about 1.5 hours. I tell you with my fat short fingers I had a heck of a time taking off the heater regulator and putting it back on. I spent at least a half hour trying to find one of the bolts after dropping it three or four times. Installing the steering joint only took about 20 minutes. I dropped a universal socket joint into the aluminum pan so had to fish that out as well. Seems to work great. Just a heads up for those attempting this repair. I did not have the torx sockets so the one on the steering knuckle is an E-10. All your help and knowledge are much appreciated.

2001 X5 4.4i stiff steering fixed

I was going to replace the double joint, but I decided to spray it first with the Liquid Wrench/White lithium grease ($6.00) to see what happens. Guess what... it worked! Stiffness is gone. Although I still could hear a faint ticking noise, but the steering feels that it's back to normal. I don't know when it'll last, but it beats spending $$$ at this point.

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Originally Posted by gaberd0929 (Post 971472)

I was going to replace the double joint, but I decided to spray it first with the Liquid Wrench/White lithium grease ($6.00) to see what happens. Guess what- it worked! Stiffness is gone. Although I still could hear a faint ticking noise, but the steering feels that it's back to normal. I don't know when it'll last, but it beats spending $$$ at this point.

Feels so good when the repair is that simple!

Nice X5 [color and body look great],WOW that is a lot of dust there...................4.4i e53 ,I assume 03'.
how often do You replace the air filter.
How often do You use injector cleaner?

Have a slight click in the steering on right turns. Inspected the knuckle and I can feel it clicking, so it has to get done. Steering isn't stiff yet, so I'm not in crisis mode. I did this job on my E36 - that was crisis mode. It would stiffen up in turns on the track - not good.

For this though, if you look at realoem, you can see it calls for a "cup". It looks like a dust boot or heat shield, although mine currently doesn't have this. Do any of you with 4.4's have this cup installed? Post pics if you do please.

RealOEM.com * BMW E53 X5 4.4i STEER.COL.-LOWER JOINT ASSY

Thanks!

My 2002 X5 3.0i (FA53 06/2002) a tight Steering and I need to replace Lower Shaft Universal Double Joint.

BMW Dealer is selling for $230 and FCP Euro has it for $200. Any other sites that I can buy it cheaper?

Part #: BMW-32306758076
RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog

Its 185.00 at ECS Tuning.

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Originally Posted by Santib (Post 1061450)

Its 185.00 at ECS Tuning.

Thank you. The dealer is selling for $230 so I was hoping to finder bit cheaper. Unfortunately this appears to be a un-common item and is not sold be the major auto parts sites such as advance auto.