Xoutpost.com

Xoutpost.com (https://xoutpost.com/forums.php)
-   X5 (E53) Forum (https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e53-forum/)
-   -   BMW Code 22 Help? (https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e53-forum/88950-bmw-code-22-help.html)

SkidmarkX5 09-01-2012 05:37 PM

BMW Code 22 Help?
 
I just replaced the two Cam Position Sensors on the X5 (Model Year 2000, 4.4i, 166K mi.).
Had codes 3E & 34 before.
After installation have Same two codes plus code 22. :wtf:
Can anyone provide me more information other than "Camshaft VANOS control Cyl#5-8".
Thanks!:thumbup:
While I am waiting for a reply I will be removing the VANOS solenoid on this bank (Passenger side, correct?) cleaning, reinstalling & checking the connections.

Best regards,
SVS

SlickGT1 09-02-2012 10:36 PM

Where did you get said sensor? If you answer eBay, I say put old sensor back in and confirm the new sensor causing a new error.

SkidmarkX5 09-06-2012 11:25 PM

Thanks Slick!
Got it from AutohauseAZ. Already did some switching to confirm.
Issue must be more than the sensors.
Strange that it no longer is asking for the Pre-Cat O2 sensor any longer. :dunno:
So I am ordering those patch cables for the GT-1 Program I have putting off for a year now.
Something is causing the misfires, I need to drill down a little more...

bastereo 09-07-2012 12:59 AM

Care to post the description of those codes? I don't think I am alone in not wanting to waste my time looking them up, then offering advise.

Not asking for an O2 sensor yet...
And i doubt is say replace my o2 sensor please.
It might need an o2 sensor, but not just because the code says something about an o2 sensor.

SkidmarkX5 09-07-2012 06:18 AM

Thanks Bastero,
Using the code reader from Bavauto, fromthe chart:
OF (the OF chart) 22 3E 34
Thanks!

civdiv99 09-07-2012 10:32 AM

Skid - do you need to borrow my Bentley?

(geez that sounded weird......got any Gray Poupon?)

TwinsPoppa 09-07-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkidmarkX5 (Post 895619)
Thanks Bastero,
Using the code reader from Bavauto, fromthe chart:
OF (the OF chart) 22 3E 34
Thanks!

Skid,

DTCs (Diagnostic Trouble Codes) will be displayed based on the scanner (fault code reader) you are using. Different scanners have different capabilities and may/may not use standard OBD codes.

The automotive industry standardized OBD/OBD-II (On-Board Diagnostics) codes. Most often they are seen as "P" codes. So, people will be more familiar with these codes.

OBD-II Codes Defined

You need to translate those codes for us. I don't know if Peake uses the same codes for all their scanners (if they have more than one).

I found this on the web.
http://www.bavauto.com/Assets/inst_pages/sr300.pdf


If its the same, then translated it would be:

22 = camshaft vanos control, cyl #5-8
3E = misfire random/multiple cylinders
34 = misfire cyl #4

Wow, quite a few people recently are hunting down misfires.

Basically you have a bunch of misfires mostly on one bank. The 22 code didn't appear until after you changed out the sensors. Maybe throw back the old sensors and see what happens.

If the 22 code disappears then throw out those sensors and, if they weren't OE, get OE sensors.

If you use a GT1 then it should have a test plan to follow.

SlickGT1 09-07-2012 12:54 PM

Well at least it points him in the right direction. Sort of.

So it tells him that camshaft pos sensor on cyl 5-8, (driver side)

And then tells him cyl 4 is misfiring on pass side. How strange is that. I would start with cyl 4 either way. Swap the coil with another cylinder, and check the plug while you are there.

TwinsPoppa 09-07-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 895670)
Well at least it points him in the right direction. Sort of.

So it tells him that camshaft pos sensor on cyl 5-8, (driver side)

And then tells him cyl 4 is misfiring on pass side. How strange is that. I would start with cyl 4 either way. Swap the coil with another cylinder, and check the plug while you are there.

I just re-read what I wrote and thanks for the catch Dennis. I can't even interpret properly what I wrote. :rofl:

He's only getting the sensor problem on one bank and probably only a misfire on one cylinder.

SlickGT1 09-07-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 895677)
I just re-read what I wrote and thanks for the catch Dennis. I can't even interpret properly what I wrote. :rofl:

He's only getting the sensor problem on one bank and probably only a misfire on one cylinder.

Teamwork. I couldn't figure out what type of code reader he was using. Even though it is stated right there. lol.

civdiv99 09-07-2012 03:15 PM

Hey skid, you better not be runnin' AM/PM in that.........

What did we hook up to it last winter? Did I run INPA?

I don't remember. Then too, we're about the same age, so maybe you don't remember either?

Crap. Now I forgot what we were talkin' about. Sigh.......

TwinTurboGTR 09-07-2012 07:54 PM

Lol haha. Oh man... I forgot where the funny started lol.

bastereo 09-08-2012 12:31 AM

Twinspappa- I am glad some one caught what I was saying. The OP missed it entirely.


Why would you replace the cam position sensors for misfires? That's a bit far fetched and pretty long down the list of things to look at when trouble shooting a misfire.

Start with the ignition system as indicated already. Swap the coil pack to another cylinder and the spark plug to a different one.

SkidmarkX5 09-11-2012 12:33 AM

WOW! Thanks to you all for the help.
I just returned with an OE (BMW) CPS and put it in place of the Febi one I got. Installed it on the Driver's side - that's bank 1-4, yes? Cleared the codes before I tested it. Same problem.
And yes it was idling rough. As I added throttle and the rpm got to about 1500, the Check Engine Light started blinking. CODES are 3E & 34. The code 22 droped off (for now).
It was asking for a pre-cat O2 sensor intermittantly before this misfire stuff came up.
civdiv,
Thinking I need a more Gee Whiz Diagnostic tool. So I ordered the OBD2 & 20-pin connector cable kit to interface with my laptop. Then I will install that software we were using last winter. I do not recall what it is off hand. Will get back with you on this.
About the why am I doing the CPS for Mis fires, cuz a VANOS signal code is what started this whole thing. Now I am not certain what to think other than need more difinitive information.

Thanks to all :thumbup:

SlickGT1 09-11-2012 10:40 AM

Can you look in your Peak tool booklet and translate the codes you are posting. No one here knows what codes 3E and 34 are. Most of us don't have the Peake tools either. Thanks.

SkidmarkX5 09-11-2012 01:55 PM

Yes, of course.
3E is Multiple Cyl. Misfires (bank 5-8).
34 is Misfire Cyl. #4.

Now ignoring CPS & looking into ignition.
Thx

SlickGT1 09-11-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkidmarkX5 (Post 896199)
WOW! Thanks to you all for the help.
I just returned with an OE (BMW) CPS and put it in place of the Febi one I got. Installed it on the Driver's side - that's bank 1-4, yes? Cleared the codes before I tested it. Same problem.
And yes it was idling rough. As I added throttle and the rpm got to about 1500, the Check Engine Light started blinking. CODES are 3E & 34. The code 22 droped off (for now).
It was asking for a pre-cat O2 sensor intermittantly before this misfire stuff came up.
civdiv,
Thinking I need a more Gee Whiz Diagnostic tool. So I ordered the OBD2 & 20-pin connector cable kit to interface with my laptop. Then I will install that software we were using last winter. I do not recall what it is off hand. Will get back with you on this.
About the why am I doing the CPS for Mis fires, cuz a VANOS signal code is what started this whole thing. Now I am not certain what to think other than need more difinitive information.

Thanks to all :thumbup:

Pass side is cyl 1-2-3-4.

SlickGT1 09-11-2012 02:03 PM

did you try swapping cyl 4 coil with cyl 1 for example. Check the plug?

SkidmarkX5 09-13-2012 03:10 PM

Well folks, I am punting & the X5 is being towed to my trusty INDY. Maybe I am gettting old. It just quit being fun. Not going back under the hood till I get my INPA interface set up. Will advise on how it all turned out.Really grateful for the responses.
SKID

TwinTurboGTR 09-13-2012 10:43 PM

Ah man. Hopefully the Indy can find the problem. Just to clarify, bank 1 is cyl 1-4 pass side or right side. Bank 2 is cyl 5-8 and is drivers side or left side.

civdiv99 09-13-2012 11:01 PM

Where did you take it?

SkidmarkX5 09-16-2012 03:26 AM

Radke on 38th off of Washington. The owner's kid is a certified BMW Master Tech. A real Bimmer Head - has a 5 series now that he is tinkering with.

Checked on my CarSoft Cables from China. Must be on a container ship in the Pacific. Or maybe camel caravan accross the Himalayas by now...:dunno:

SKID


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:16 AM.

vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved.