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X5_E53_N62 11-06-2012 01:54 PM

Coding, what not to forget?
 
Will do the 1 click 3 blink turning light (if possible) but what else to do when I am already in there?

Thanks :thumbup:

BabyCAP 11-06-2012 04:40 PM

fogs on w/ hi beams
hi beams on with low beams
disable corner/parking lamp
disable seat belt chime - no flaming please:D
double flash hazards
window/roof close with remote
mirror fold with remote (not sure if this is available)
if you have aftermarket bulbs you can turn off cold monitoring which will increase bulb life and eliminate some warnings.

good luck!! you will be super happy :thumbup::thumbup:

TerminatorX5 11-06-2012 06:08 PM

synchronize car clock to GPS time beacon.
maybe door autolock at certain speed... maybe not...
maybe roof close with rain sensor - even though sounds redundant... and really useless...
correct speedo to ACTUAL speed instead of optimistic reading...

SlickGT1 11-06-2012 06:51 PM

what is confirmed to be available? I too am getting coding soon.

patrickkc 11-06-2012 07:54 PM

mirror fold cannot be done.
door autolock at certain speed can be done.
rain sensor to close roof is really stupid and shouldn't be done. (not tested on E53 though)
Highbeams with low beams I want to try too. xenon + halogen highbeams on together? (need to test)

Everything else mentioned in the above posts can be coded.

jgold47 11-06-2012 10:33 PM

what lines are the double flash hazards and the seatbelt gong? do you know what the key in the ignition gong line is as well?

I am assuming you are using NCS, if youre using one of those fancy english language versions, forget it, I will dig out my german to english dictionary.

SlickGT1 11-07-2012 12:22 PM

****LCM Coding Options****
1. fogs on w/ hi beams
-FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
2. disable corner/parking lamp
-BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLICHT - nicht_activ
3. Double Flash Hazards.
- WARNBLINKER - change einfachimpuls to doppelimpuls
4. cold monitoring License Plate Lights off
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - change aktiv to nicht_activ
5. cold monitoring Angel Eyes off
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV - Left, change activ to nicht_activ
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV - Right, mine was nicht_activ to begin with, so no change.
6. Low beams as DRL. KMBI ->, LCM ->
-AL_ALS_DRL - change Nicht_activ to activ
7. Dimmed High Beams as DRL
-FL_dimmung_Als_drl - I have a value of "wert_06", and I do not have DRLs on. So...
8. LED Tail Light Option - if someone brings me a set of LED tails, I can test this.
-LED_RUECKLICHT_OPTION - chnage to Activ, not tested.
--Might also need to disable the following Cold Monitoring off.
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_L - change to nicht_activ
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_R - change to nicht_activ
9. Seatbelt Warning Gong
-GURTWARNUNG_GONG - change to nicht_activ
10. Seat Belt Warning on Display
-Gurtwarnung_text - choose either activ or nicht_activ
11. Fasten Seat Belt
-GURT_ANLEGEN - default is melden (report), need to research other options.
10. Key Left In Ignition Warning When door is open
-ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG change to nicht_activ


****GM3 Coding Options****
1. window/roof close with remote GM3
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB - change to activ

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 12:38 PM

7. you have to specify, which circuits you don't want to cold monitor.

9. time synch with GPS? you still have to set hours but the minutes synch

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 12:43 PM

GPS_UHR
aktiv

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 12:50 PM

PWM_FL_BIX
wert_02

high beam bi xenon together with high beams - not tested, change to wert_01

EDIT 10/27/14 - tested, works fine

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 12:56 PM

SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN
aktiv

folding mirrors, not tested

Turbo_Bimmer 11-07-2012 01:05 PM

Is there a setting to automatically turn ON the rear defrost if temperature is close to or below the freezing point?
My E46 was turning ON the defrost every winter morning when I started the car in the morning, but not my X5.

It was a nice feature to have.

SlickGT1 11-07-2012 01:07 PM

Cold monitoring off on the AEs. Hook it up.

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 01:08 PM

interesting feature... if we had the FSW file from your E46, we could find if E53 has that line in its coding - the programming is similar but the german abbreviations are a nightmare to decipher...

SlickGT1 11-07-2012 01:12 PM

Term, do you have the line for the AE cold monitoring off thing. Also the licence plate bulbs. Thanks.

Turbo_Bimmer 11-07-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 905664)
interesting feature... if we had the FSW file from your E46, we could find if E53 has that line in its coding - the programming is similar but the german abbreviations are a nightmare to decipher...

Yeah those german abbreviations are not easy to figure out. I don't have the E46 anymore, but will take a look on othey forums in case I find something.

I didn't see it listed here, but one of my favorite coding was to remove the legal text and 'accept' on the NAV screen.

Nav Legal Notice
module: GT line: LAENDERVARIANTE_GT setting: ece
In Europe, they don't have this legal notice.

SlickGT1 11-07-2012 01:30 PM

Update List.

1. fogs on w/ hi beams
-FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
2. hi beams on with low beams
3. disable corner/parking lamp
-BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLICHT
4. disable seat belt chime
5. double flash hazards
6. window/roof close with remote
7. cold monitoring off. Angel Eyes and License Plate
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - aktiv
lic plate cold monitoring - needs to be set to nicht_activ - NOT TESTED
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV - Angel Eyes
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV - Angel Eyes
8. I wish we could close the mirrors with lock.
-SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN - aktiv (not tested)
9. Sync time with GPS.
-GPS_UHR - aktiv
10. Nav disclaimer off
- LAENDERVARIANTE_GT setting: ece
11. 1 click unlock after shutting car off...all 4 doors unlock
12. euro hazards
13. door gong
14. key gong
-ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG
15. seatbelt gong
-GURTWARNUNG_GONG
16. real speed on speedo
17. wiper goes back down after engine shut off

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 01:30 PM

KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL
aktiv

lic plate cold monitoring - needs to be set to nicht_activ - NOT TESTED

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 01:32 PM

disable gong when key is left in ognition

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 01:44 PM

LED_RUECKLICHT_OPTION
nicht_aktiv

it says tail light LED - not active.... i wonder, if this will resolve LED flickering while ON for retrofitted LED taillights if set to activ....

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 01:46 PM

FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ (FRONT FOG LIGHTS NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH HIGH BEAMS)
nicht_aktiv

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 02:07 PM

when you put Nav in ECE mode, you will lose the warning screen, the emergency line in the menu, and gain yards instead of feet...
the rain sensing roof is working in E53, i kept it active...

HHS line - can't find in E53 for rear defroster feature... maybe it is abbreviated in E46 and spelled out in E53

X5_E53_N62 11-07-2012 03:14 PM

And the 1 click 3 blink turn signal, can this be done?

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 03:29 PM

i will look once i am on my home comp... i did not do it on mine...

SlickGT1 11-07-2012 03:33 PM

Check for the Angel Eye cold monitoring as well. Thanks man, you are doing us all a service.

TerminatorX5 11-07-2012 03:39 PM

i did not find the normal line - CYCL_TI_BLK... maybe it is listed differently... i'll have to look it up... i had a car that did that and i did not like it for some reason...

PapaZoo 11-07-2012 05:09 PM

TerminatorX5 do you think you could give the code I have to change in NCSExpert to disable the cornering lights on my 2001 X5

thanks :)

Turbo_Bimmer 11-07-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaZoo (Post 905708)
TerminatorX5 do you think you could give the code I have to change in NCSExpert to disable the cornering lights on my 2001 X5

thanks :)

oups, double post. Look in your other post, I put the lines there.

TerminatorX5 11-08-2012 12:20 AM

AE -
KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV
KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV

CORNER LIGHTS
BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLICHT

GONGS

GURTWARNUNG_GONG

ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG

SlickGT1 11-08-2012 08:52 AM

Dude I love you, long time. I think I take you on picnic.

TerminatorX5 11-08-2012 09:43 AM

and i will float your your key on the river!!!! hahaha

on the line that i posted for high beams at the same time as bi-xenon - the line reads PWM - pulse width modulation... i am not so sure if that line will do what i said it will do - but there is no other lines that i could find for the bi-zenon and the high beams... might be part of the cold/hot monitoring - so, cross check that entry, if possible...

i think, i found some lines that might allow for the AE to be on with the engine running but i need to get my laptop in order before testing my theory - my kid got hold of the computer again and played some online games... lol...

tmv 11-08-2012 10:04 AM

Subscribed.

SlickGT1 11-08-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 905794)
and i will float your your key on the river!!!! hahaha

on the line that i posted for high beams at the same time as bi-xenon - the line reads PWM - pulse width modulation... i am not so sure if that line will do what i said it will do - but there is no other lines that i could find for the bi-zenon and the high beams... might be part of the cold/hot monitoring - so, cross check that entry, if possible...

i think, i found some lines that might allow for the AE to be on with the engine running but i need to get my laptop in order before testing my theory - my kid got hold of the computer again and played some online games... lol...

Thanks man. My nephew got hold of my pc once. Also played some online games. My PC took 20 hours of repair to get back in order. Ended up straight up formatting it after 18 hours of trying to figure out WTF.

Keep this going. I am going to try and maintain that list of function and line.

I will also probe the dude that does the programming to see if there are any other lines that we missed.

TerminatorX5 11-08-2012 04:06 PM

1 Attachment(s)
this is my FSW file, original...

SlickGT1 11-20-2012 12:35 PM

Update List.

1. fogs on w/ hi beams
-FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
2. hi beams on with low beams
3. disable corner/parking lamp
-BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLICHT
4. disable seat belt chime
5. double flash hazards
6. window/roof close with remote
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB - activ
7. cold monitoring off. Angel Eyes and License Plate
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - aktiv
lic plate cold monitoring - needs to be set to nicht_activ - NOT TESTED
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV - Angel Eyes
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV - Angel Eyes
8. I wish we could close the mirrors with lock.
-SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN - aktiv (not tested)
9. Sync time with GPS.
-GPS_UHR - aktiv
10. Nav disclaimer off
- LAENDERVARIANTE_GT setting: ece
11. 1 click unlock after shutting car off...all 4 doors unlock
12. euro hazards
13. door gong
14. key gong
-ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG
15. seatbelt gong
-GURTWARNUNG_GONG
16. real speed on speedo
17. wiper goes back down after engine shut off

TerminatorX5 11-20-2012 12:42 PM

Dennis, did you get it already done, or you are jsut recapping the list?

Ricky Bobby 11-20-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 905675)
LED_RUECKLICHT_OPTION
nicht_aktiv

it says tail light LED - not active.... i wonder, if this will resolve LED flickering while ON for retrofitted LED taillights if set to activ....

would like to know, someday my startup flicker will be coded off with my tails

TerminatorX5 11-20-2012 01:04 PM

i think this one resolves the ongoing flickering with the adaptive brakes.. the start up flickering is under the cold monitoring... however, not tested...

SlickGT1 11-20-2012 01:04 PM

Just adding to the list of what the guys in NJ coding meet were able to do. I know a guy actually in SI that turns out has coded over 4000 cars. So I might head out there soon to get this all taken care of. I'll let you know how it goes once done. I just want to make sure I have a full list of stuff to do.

TerminatorX5 11-20-2012 01:08 PM

Slick, i found an E90 in Manhattan for my wife, 2011, under 5K miles... is it safe to get the car from that area? or should I steer away? the deal is backed by BMWFS... how can I tell if the car was flooded but then cleaned up?... obviously, if it si dripping water, i would know.. but, if it was cleaned up?...

SlickGT1 11-20-2012 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 907768)
Slick, i found an E90 in Manhattan for my wife, 2011, under 5K miles... is it safe to get the car from that area? or should I steer away? the deal is backed by BMWFS... how can I tell if the car was flooded but then cleaned up?... obviously, if it si dripping water, i would know.. but, if it was cleaned up?...

Well it depends what area. Manhattan got flooded hard core too. Lower side is still destroyed. Like zombie town.

Put the car on a steep hill, like a parking garage ramp, and see if water drains out. If they clean the car, they dry the car. But they can't dry all the nooks inside the frame. Also, if its warm out, closed windows, you should get heavy condensation inside on the glass.

Also, get under the front seats, and feel the bottom cushion. If you feel salt crystals on the metal, you know what happened.

_XS3C_ 11-20-2012 02:22 PM

[#18 :nanana:]

Relock 2 min. after unlocking [with out door opening] !
It's set to "NOT ACTIVE" from the factory !
I had it coded on one of my X and do like it 100% :thumbup:

TerminatorX5 11-20-2012 02:34 PM

thanks for the tips - i will keep in mind, if i go for it... it is just a very nice specimen of the E90... i could not find anything like that in a while...

i am worried about the auto relock - we had an E34, that had an alarm, with auto relock, windows roll up, remote engine start - was installed at the Guaranteed Alarm in Brooklyn, right on the Coney Island Ave, at the exit by the belt parkway... (or, park beltway?)
We had it in for state inspection, and i told the guys not to leave the keys inside, as it will lock up itself... i get a phone call, come and open your car... turns out, the Einsteins removed the keychain remote control (!!!) off the chain, left the control inside, and kept the key outside. of course, the car double locked itself, rolled the windows up and that was all she wrote... when i came to the shop, they were like, we kept the keys outside, like you told us... MORONS!!!! whose signature on this forum has the line that there is always a fool that can outdo the foolproof design...
so, i am very cautious about the auto relock...

SlickGT1 11-20-2012 02:48 PM

Yea I fear the auto locking stuff. Not even going to consider this one. I saw a guy tinting an E70, and the same shit happened. Locked, windows rolled up, sunroof closed. All I could hear was Pizdets Blad.

Belt Parkway. Or as I like to call it, Parking on the Belt. Cause you know that shit is never moving. And are you talking about Lenny's Auto. Yea that place got raped by Sandy. That's where I do my alignments. He had a ton of water in there. Lost all electrical equipment.

TerminatorX5 11-20-2012 03:03 PM

half of my family lives on the H, and they recommended going there.. not really sure what his name was, but you know how it works - at the time, i stopped by, hey Lenny (or whatever name my cousin told me at the time), I am from Andrey, from the caviar shop... yeah, i need this crap installed... lol... you always go for the owner, yeah, i am friends with the owner, yeah, ask him, he knows me, we drink/fish/sleep/walk together, yeah... hahaha... i was at the staten island a weekend before the Sandy, and my friend was getting phone calls (on his vacation time!!), hey, can you send someone to fix that and this... like they can't call the office... no, they have to talk to the owner... lol...

SlickGT1 11-20-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 907789)
half of my family lives on the H, and they recommended going there.. not really sure what his name was, but you know how it works - at the time, i stopped by, hey Lenny (or whatever name my cousin told me at the time), I am from Andrey, from the caviar shop... yeah, i need this crap installed... lol... you always go for the owner, yeah, i am friends with the owner, yeah, ask him, he knows me, we drink/fish/sleep/walk together, yeah... hahaha... i was at the staten island a weekend before the Sandy, and my friend was getting phone calls (on his vacation time!!), hey, can you send someone to fix that and this... like they can't call the office... no, they have to talk to the owner... lol...

Ahahaha, the way of the Russian.

_XS3C_ 11-20-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 907781)
thanks for the tips - i will keep in mind, if i go for it... it is just a very nice specimen of the E90... i could not find anything like that in a while...

i am worried about the auto relock - we had an E34, that had an alarm, with auto relock, windows roll up, remote engine start - was installed at the Guaranteed Alarm in Brooklyn, right on the Coney Island Ave, at the exit by the belt parkway... (or, park beltway?)
We had it in for state inspection, and i told the guys not to leave the keys inside, as it will lock up itself... i get a phone call, come and open your car... turns out, the Einsteins removed the keychain remote control (!!!) off the chain, left the control inside, and kept the key outside. of course, the car double locked itself, rolled the windows up and that was all she wrote... when i came to the shop, they were like, we kept the keys outside, like you told us... MORONS!!!! whose signature on this forum has the line that there is always a fool that can outdo the foolproof design...
so, i am very cautious about the auto relock ...

hey Terminatorx5 :)
on the x5's the remote is on the key head and so far there is no way for the key to be left inside [when using the same key: locked then unlocked than auto relocked] unless that same key have been tossed by the open window on purpose ...
Note: btw I had notice there is only single lock and the alarm is NOT set when auto relocked after the 2min. ....

jgold47 11-20-2012 08:42 PM

Hmm. On the 46, the auto relock would just relock the door if you hit unlock on the remote then didn't open the door for 2 minutes. I haven't experienced this yet on the x but how different could it be? There would be no way to lock yourself out.

jgold47 11-22-2012 03:38 PM

Tried this last night. Windows down. Locked then unlocked. Teo minutes later... Doors relocked. No windows

SlickGT1 11-24-2012 04:32 PM

anyone have the code line for windows up. Thanks in advance.

I am also presuming this is all in the gm3 module. Correct?

patrickkc 11-24-2012 04:44 PM

windows up is in the CAS
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB
change to aktiv

SlickGT1 11-24-2012 04:46 PM

Thanks Patrick

I found the same line in the gm3, I think. Does the one file that gets written, the trc file, have every module? Or do I have to write and save every module?

What is gm3 for then?

patrickkc 11-24-2012 04:55 PM

I actually forget if the E53's windows up code is in the Gm3 module. I haven't really coded my E53 for a long long time. If you are able to find the same line in the GM3 module, try that instead and see if it works.

SlickGT1 11-24-2012 05:24 PM

So when I read from car, do I read from GM3? I guess that should be the first question.

patrickkc 11-24-2012 06:40 PM

you mean like when you press f1, f3 then chose a module? i always just went with the first one. I believe it was EWS?

SlickGT1 11-24-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickkc (Post 908396)
you mean like when you press f1, f3 then chose a module? i always just went with the first one. I believe it was EWS?

Right, that is just to read your vin. No I mean when you press back then press process Ecu, it asks for module to read. It lists a lot of them at this point. Which do you choose? And which module do you update when you are done making a new man file?

patrickkc 11-24-2012 07:10 PM

in the list of modules, you said you picked GM3 and you were able to find that line of code i posted right? change it to aktiv, and save the file as .man. press F5, and select coapiReadSgGetFSWPSW and press ok. Then press F2 and select SG_CODIEREN and press ok followed by F3.

test the windows after to see if the windows go up with key. It should work :thumbup:

jgold47 11-24-2012 11:49 PM

yes gt1, its in the gm3. that was the correct line, but not the correct module. I dont believe the x53 has a codeable CAS.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 908426)
yes gt1, its in the gm3. that was the correct line, but not the correct module. I dont believe the x53 has a codeable CAS.

E53 has a lot of module options, CAS was not one of them. Cool so I'm not crazy. I coded everything I had lines for. So my man file is ready technically. I'm going to give it another read tomorrow, and hopefully have something uploaded. Thanks again guys.

fmugur 11-25-2012 02:23 AM

Slick, please try to remember the steps. I am going to try the same thing tomorrow.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 03:28 AM

Make a blank FSW_PSW.MAN file first in the work directory. Not having this was screwing my system up. it's the same name as the .Trc file but instead of .Trc you make it .man.

Open inpa first, if it works so will NCS.
Close inpa, open NCS.
Load profile, I use Revlovs
Press F1, right away press F3, choose e53, choose ews, press ok. Your vin should come up. Well not full vin, only last 8 matter, the 8th of the last 8 is a check digit, so ignore that one. Then press back. Press process ecu, choose Gm3, ok, ok.

Then you need to change jobs and select codierdaten_lessen, this makes NCS read your module. Press execute job. When done it will say coding finished, and you have FSW_PSW.TRC file with all your code.

That's where I'm up to so far.

I only have about three hours of free time invested in this. So let me know where you get up to.

patrickkc 11-25-2012 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 908454)
Make a blank FSW_PSW.MAN file first in the work directory. Not having this was screwing my system up. it's the same name as the .Trc file but instead of .Trc you make it .man.

Open inpa first, if it works so will NCS.
Close inpa, open NCS.
Load profile, I use Revlovs
Press F1, right away press F3, choose e53, choose ews, press ok. Your vin should come up. Well not full vin, only last 8 matter, the 8th of the last 8 is a check digit, so ignore that one. Then press back. Press process ecu, choose Gm3, ok, ok.

Then you need to change jobs and select codierdaten_lessen, this makes NCS read your module. Press execute job. When done it will say coding finished, and you have FSW_PSW.TRC file with all your code.

That's where I'm up to so far.

I only have about three hours of free time invested in this. So let me know where you get up to.

After you chose GM3, and press f4 again, a txt will open with bunch of HEX in it. Close that, and go to your WORK folder and open the .TRC file. Save it as a .MAN file, and change w/e you need. Save it again as a .MAN file.. then you F5, coapiReadSgGetFSWPSW, F2, SG_CODIEREN, and hit F3 to start coding. It will say coding ended after its finished.

fmugur 11-25-2012 04:54 PM

Done. Thanks guys. Great help. I used revtors though. I guess since my car is manufactured before 2002 the expert profile with coapiReadSgGetFSWPSW didn't work for me.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 10:04 PM

My shit keeps giving me an error when reading. I have a massive sensation I have a shitty cable. Anyone want to try it if it works? Maybe I can borrow a known good one?

Either way. I give up for now. I am going to post on bmwcoding and see what people suggest. But based on research, either my cable is bad, or I need to format my whole shit and start over.

jgold47 11-25-2012 10:08 PM

what is the error. You shouldnt be able to get as far as you have with a bad cable.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 10:26 PM

That is what I thought. Hold on. I emailed screenshots to myself.

fmugur 11-25-2012 10:30 PM

I wonder if this is one will allow me to still operate the windows after the ignition is off:

FH_ABSSCHALTKRITERIUM is set to us - usa in my case.

What should I change it to?

jgold47 11-25-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 908561)
I wonder if this is one will allow me to still operate the windows after the ignition is off:

FH_ABSSCHALTKRITERIUM is set to us - usa in my case.

What should I change it to?


without looking it up, I believe you change it to ECE, which lets the windows work for a few minutes until you open the door.

fmugur 11-25-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 908556)
My shit keeps giving me an error when reading. I have a massive sensation I have a shitty cable. Anyone want to try it if it works? Maybe I can borrow a known good one?

Either way. I give up for now. I am going to post on bmwcoding and see what people suggest. But based on research, either my cable is bad, or I need to format my whole shit and start over.

What cable are you using? You said you connected with INPA, right?

jgold47 11-25-2012 10:33 PM

1 Attachment(s)
here....this is a huge help.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 10:35 PM

I get
Error in CABD! Look at CABI.ERR and ERROR.LOG

COAPI-2020: no answer from ECU
IFH-0009: NO RESPONSE FROM CONTROLUNIT

On the NCS screen it stops on,

Get coded
EWS
Coding is faulty
Jobname = codierdaten_lesen
Ews.c81.a_ews.ipo.c_ews3.prg

This is only when I chose ews to read the vin. If I choose komb, or kombi to read vin, I can process the ecu for gm3 no problem. But it is clearly the wrong path because the Trc file is 5kb and does not have any of the options I need.

Even when I get the error above, it still writes a proper Trc file. I am just not sure if it's safe to proceed coding the edited man file.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 10:40 PM

Yes I can use inpa no problem. I read all codes. I get an occupancy mat error all the time. That was present. Inpa works. NCS works for everything else but not to process ecu when vin is read from ews. Strange, I know. I'm really at a loss right now.

I also took apart the head, and I have the green board, and pins 8-7 are bridged.

fmugur 11-25-2012 10:50 PM

I am using and ads cable since I have one under the hood but I checked the usb/obd and 7-8 are bridged. It might not be the cable. Did you try a different profile? Just a thought...

fmugur 11-25-2012 10:52 PM

LEUCHTWEITENREG_AUTOM is set to not active in my file and I also checked Trminators' file and it's the same. Is this setting for auto leveling headlifghts? Wasn't this supposed to be active by default?

jgold47 11-25-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 908566)
I get
Error in CABD! Look at CABI.ERR and ERROR.LOG

COAPI-2020: no answer from ECU
IFH-0009: NO RESPONSE FROM CONTROLUNIT

On the NCS screen it stops on,

Get coded
EWS
Coding is faulty
Jobname = codierdaten_lesen
Ews.c81.a_ews.ipo.c_ews3.prg

This is only when I chose ews to read the vin. If I choose komb, or kombi to read vin, I can process the ecu for gm3 no problem. But it is clearly the wrong path because the Trc file is 5kb and does not have any of the options I need.

Even when I get the error above, it still writes a proper Trc file. I am just not sure if it's safe to proceed coding the edited man file.

I think mine was doing this too.

try switching to expertmode and trying again.

Post the .trc file or email to me, I can tell you if its the right one or not.

jgold47 11-25-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 908569)
LEUCHTWEITENREG_AUTOM is set to not active in my file and I also checked Trminators' file and it's the same. Is this setting for auto leveling headlifghts? Wasn't this supposed to be active by default?


LEUCHTWEITENREG_AUTOM :Automatic light length

dont touch.

you probably want this:

LWR_VORZEICHEN :Headlight leveling control

but it would be in the LSZ I think...

jgold47 11-25-2012 11:03 PM

last post...

this site has the trace files for an 02 e46 318. not perfect, but most of the options are the same between the cars....

NCS-Expert - Brief walkthrough and available parameters 2002 E46 318i CKD

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 908570)
I think mine was doing this too.

try switching to expertmode and trying again.

Post the .trc file or email to me, I can tell you if its the right one or not.

Thanks J. I'll send you the file shortly. I have to go downstairs for it.

So if I do expert mode, will I be able to upload the coded man file with it, or do I upload with Revtors.

jgold47 11-25-2012 11:11 PM

you have to switch back to revtor or fisters profile to write the manipulations back to the unit.

Its the second error you sent me thats the bigger issue....

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 11:34 PM

I know. I keep searching that no response from control unit error, and all my search points to bad cable. Ignition on, I can hear the water pump running in garage, and car on trickle charger. I don't know what else to do. Oh it reads and writes all the files in the damn work folder, then stops at that error.

SlickGT1 11-25-2012 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickkc (Post 908457)
After you chose GM3, and press f4 again, a txt will open with bunch of HEX in it. Close that, and go to your WORK folder and open the .TRC file. Save it as a .MAN file, and change w/e you need. Save it again as a .MAN file.. then you F5, coapiReadSgGetFSWPSW, F2, SG_CODIEREN, and hit F3 to start coding. It will say coding ended after its finished.

Is this where my problem is.
After I choose gm3, I press job, change I read, then press F3, which is execute job. Should I be pressing f4.

fmugur 11-25-2012 11:44 PM

Slick, you might already read this but if you haven't then go over it. Beside I got from you guys here on this thread I used the info from the following link when I did mine today.
Dummies Guide to Basic coding with NCS Expert - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum

fmugur 11-26-2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 908572)
last post...

this site has the trace files for an 02 e46 318. not perfect, but most of the options are the same between the cars....

NCS-Expert - Brief walkthrough and available parameters 2002 E46 318i CKD

Great info.
How can I tell what functions are in a module. I exported a few modules but if I know the function how do I know which module should I make the changes to?

In this particular example you mentioned LSZ module but I cannot find it in the list.

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 12:46 AM

ok, damnit, Josh put me on the right track. I got it. I can't choose ews when selecting to read vin. I have to use KMB. Then I get the individual module. I think this is going to work. Thanks guys.

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 01:11 AM

Update. It worked. I choose KMB for the vin readout. Then my file completes without error. I edited the gm3 and was able to upload it back.

My windows now roll back up. Yay. Yay. Woooohoooo.

I guess I now have to edit the lcm for the lights stuff.

Thank you all. Especially Josh for the email support. Had he not told me my file was for the whole car, I wouldn't have figured it out.

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 12:41 PM

Update List.

1. fogs on w/ hi beams
-FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
A. Fog lights with Highbeam Flash
-LH_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
2. hi beams on with low beams
3. disable corner/parking lamp
-BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLICHT
4. disable seat belt chime
5. double flash hazards
6. window/roof close with remote GM3 - done.
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB - activ
7. cold monitoring off. Angel Eyes and License Plate
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - aktiv
lic plate cold monitoring - needs to be set to nicht_activ - NOT TESTED
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV - Angel Eyes
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV - Angel Eyes
8. I wish we could close the mirrors with lock.
-SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN - aktiv (not tested)
9. Sync time with GPS.
-GPS_UHR - aktiv
10. Nav disclaimer off
- LAENDERVARIANTE_GT setting: ece
11. 1 click unlock after shutting car off...all 4 doors unlock
12. euro hazards
13. door gong
14. key gong
-ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG
15. seatbelt gong
-GURTWARNUNG_GONG
16. real speed on speedo
17. wiper goes back down after engine shut off

fmugur 11-26-2012 01:07 PM

We probably have to get the list grouped by module. Most likely the lights options are in LCM but what about the others. I guess I can print each module options and look in each file for a specific option.

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 01:18 PM

Yup, if you notice, I put gm3 for the windows.

I will do the LCM tonight, I hope.

The other stuff, we will have to fish for, seems like getting help in this area of e53 is tough. Very few people know it and are willing to help. Fewer people that are willing to help, but don't remember it all. So it looks like we will have to at it with the bunch of people in this thread. But that list above is is what is confirmed to work.

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 01:43 PM

For those that convert to springs from airbags.

This has to be removed from SA
0220 00000000 0000000000000200 0000000000 1 NIVEAUREG //Level control system //Niveauregulierung
0221 00000000 0000000400000000 0000000001 1 LFEDER_2_ACHS //2-axle-air springing //2-Achs-Luftfederung (nur in Verb. mit High-Kombi)

SLS Inactive Message.
GM3 module,
NIVEAUREG - Nicht_Malden

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 01:48 PM

Wipers will complete and goto end position after turning engine off

Module: 2JBBF or JBBF, not tested, just research.
Value: ZYCLUS_VOLLEND_KLR_AUS

SlickGT1 11-26-2012 02:40 PM

good list of module descriptions.

BMW Coding Forum

patrickkc 11-26-2012 04:32 PM

doors lock after x km (16_km/h)

VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KMH
VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE
VERRIEGELN_XKM/H_SENDER_1
SENDER_2

The last 2 lines are for setting the 2 keys as well. So doesn't matter which of the 2 keys you use, the doors will still lock after 16km. Sorry, I forgot which module these are in, but I had this code written down when I coded my x5 and I really like this option.

jgold47 11-26-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickkc (Post 908720)
doors lock after x km (16_km/h)

VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KMH
VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE
VERRIEGELN_XKM/H_SENDER_1
SENDER_2

The last 2 lines are for setting the 2 keys as well. So doesn't matter which of the 2 keys you use, the doors will still lock after 16km. Sorry, I forgot which module these are in, but I had this code written down when I coded my x5 and I really like this option.

actually do it for all 4 senders incase you are not using your original key anymore (technically one of mine is 3).

Also, you can change the speed that the doors lock at as well,

VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE
16_km/h

can be changed to:
00DE VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE THRESHOLD SPEED FOR SPEED DEPENDENT VEHICLE LOCKING (LINKED TO [VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KM/H]) 009B klemme_r terminal r (key in position i - accessories) 027E 4_km/h 4 kilometers per hour 027F 8_km/h 8 kilometers per hour 0280 12_km/h 12 kilometers per hour * 001D 16_km/h 16 kilometers per hour 0281 20_km/h 20 kilometers per hour 0282 24_km/h 24 kilometers per hour 0283 28_km/h 28 kilometers per hour

jgold47 11-26-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 908584)
Great info.
How can I tell what functions are in a module. I exported a few modules but if I know the function how do I know which module should I make the changes to?

In this particular example you mentioned LSZ module but I cannot find it in the list.


you just have to sort them out. Remember, there are very few modules that can actually be changed. You can read them, but there is nothing to really changed.

Lights are LSZ

Chassis stuff, locks, etc.... is GM3

I think there is some stuff in IHKA you can tweak

maybe Kombi ( I want to change my SIL).


but most of the rest is best left alone.

Dont screw with the dsc, abs, DME, etc....

fmugur 11-26-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 908726)
you just have to sort them out. Remember, there are very few modules that can actually be changed. You can read them, but there is nothing to really changed.

Lights are LSZ

Chassis stuff, locks, etc.... is GM3

I think there is some stuff in IHKA you can tweak

maybe Kombi ( I want to change my SIL).


but most of the rest is best left alone.

Dont screw with the dsc, abs, DME, etc....

Thanks.
I wonder if you came across an options for the DME, EWS that will tweak the sw to leave the tranny in 2nd when coming to a complete stop... would that be an option? maybe? I am not sure if I have the guts to try but I was wondering if that's possible. I remember a guy on e39 forum a while back said that be design his e39 with 5hp18 doesn't downshift to 1st gear unless the car comes to a complete stop.

jgold47 11-26-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 908732)
Thanks.
I wonder if you came across an options for the DME, EWS that will tweak the sw to leave the tranny in 2nd when coming to a complete stop... would that be an option? maybe? I am not sure if I have the guts to try but I was wondering if that's possible. I remember a guy on e39 forum a while back said that be design his e39 with 5hp18 doesn't downshift to 1st gear unless the car comes to a complete stop.


that would be in the EGS, which I dont even think we can read with NCS....

TerminatorX5 11-28-2012 11:47 PM

sorry guys, i was out of town, test driving the 335 that my wife wanted... and then, so many other things... Slick, i tried to send you the ZIP file with the coding tool, but the email bounced back... i need to clean up my PM box, but not tonight... i'll get to it tomorrow...
BTW, did anyone try the PWM_BIX line for the highbeams on at the same time with Bi-Xenons? I have not, as I barely see the car in the garage, it is either on the road with my wife, or i am driving it - 15K in 5 months, way too many miles... lol... I can't wait when i put her behind the wheel of her own 335... lol... she drives too much... lol...

fmugur 11-29-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 908735)
that would be in the EGS, which I dont even think we can read with NCS....

Right, I ment EGS. I was just curious if that could be done.

fmugur 11-29-2012 12:29 AM

Now that is winter I like the REST feature (turns the auxiliar water pump and the fan to keep warm the interior) and I was wondering if this can be turn on automatically when I turn the engine off.

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 12:59 AM

Ok so choosing KMB, for lcm is a fail. Was getting same error. Chose KMBI, lcm is now coded. Removed corner lamps, cold monitoring AEs off, license CM off. Now time to test stuff. I do this quite easy now. Lol.

fmugur 11-30-2012 01:51 AM

Good job Slick!
Did you guys see an option to have the low beams as DLR instead of high beams?

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 11:15 AM

1. fogs on w/ hi beams
-FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
A. Fog lights with Highbeam Flash
-LH_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
2. hi beams on with low beams
3. disable corner/parking lamp, KMBI ->, LCM ->,
-BLK_V_GED_ALS_SIDEMARTK change Activ to Nicht_activ
4. disable seat belt chime
5. double flash hazards
6. window/roof close with remote GM3 - done.
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB - activ
7. cold monitoring off. Angel Eyes and License Plate, KMBI ->, LCM->
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - aktiv
lic plate cold monitoring - needs to be set to nicht_activ
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV - Angel Eyes
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV - Angel Eyes
8. I wish we could close the mirrors with lock.
-SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN - aktiv (not tested)
9. Sync time with GPS.
-GPS_UHR - aktiv
10. Nav disclaimer off
- LAENDERVARIANTE_GT setting: ece
11. 1 click unlock after shutting car off...all 4 doors unlock
12. euro hazards
13. door gong
14. key gong
-ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG
15. seatbelt gong
-GURTWARNUNG_GONG
16. real speed on speedo
17. wiper goes back down after engine shut off
18. Double Flash Hazards. KMBI ->, LCM ->,
- WARNBLINKER change einfachimpuls to doppelimpuls
19. Low beams as DRL. KMBI ->, LCM ->
-AL_ALS_DRL change Nicht_activ to activ
20. Dimmed High Beams as DRL
-FL_dimmung_Als_drl, I have a value of "wert_06", and I do not have DRLs on. So.....
21. LED Tail Light Option
-LED_RUECKLICHT_OPTION chnage to Activ, not tested.
--Might also need to disable the following.
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_L change to nicht_activ
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_R change to nicht_activ

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 909294)
Good job Slick!
Did you guys see an option to have the low beams as DLR instead of high beams?

Number 19 in my last post.

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 11:19 AM

Also please note number in the code list above. The previous line that was given in this post is not correct. I changed this in post #102 to reflect the setting that does work.

jgold47 11-30-2012 11:28 AM

I wouldn't use low beams as drls with Xeonns

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 909337)
I wouldn't use low beams as drls with Xeonns

Yea I agree. I don't know how that would function. I think it might fire up the Xenons right away. I haven't tested this, and I have no desire to have this feature. But someone should try it, and let us know what it does to the lights.

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 12:48 PM

OK guys, updated list. If someone can help me locate the items that I can't find, that would be tits. Thanks again.

****LCM Coding Options****
1. fogs on w/ hi beams
-FL_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv
2. disable corner/parking lamp
-BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLICHT - nicht_activ
3. Double Flash Hazards.
- WARNBLINKER - change einfachimpuls to doppelimpuls
4. cold monitoring License Plate Lights off
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_KZL - change aktiv to nicht_activ
5. cold monitoring Angel Eyes off
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV - Left, change activ to nicht_activ
-KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV - Right, mine was nicht_activ to begin with, so no change.
6. Low beams as DRL. KMBI ->, LCM ->
-AL_ALS_DRL - change Nicht_activ to activ
7. Dimmed High Beams as DRL
-FL_dimmung_Als_drl - I have a value of "wert_06", and I do not have DRLs on. So...
8. LED Tail Light Option - if someone brings me a set of LED tails, I can test this.
-LED_RUECKLICHT_OPTION - chnage to Activ, not tested.
--Might also need to disable the following Cold Monitoring off.
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_L - change to nicht_activ
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_R - change to nicht_activ
9. Seatbelt Warning Gong
-GURTWARNUNG_GONG - change to nicht_activ
10. Seat Belt Warning on Display
-Gurtwarnung_text - choose either activ or nicht_activ
11. Fasten Seat Belt
-GURT_ANLEGEN - default is melden (report), need to research other options.
10. Key Left In Ignition Warning When door is open
-ZUENDSCHLUESSEL_WARNUNG change to nicht_activ


****GM3 Coding Options****
1. window/roof close with remote GM3
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB - change to activ


================================================== ========

Stuff that I cannot find yet.

A. Fog lights with Highbeam Flash - I cannot find this in LCM
-LH_UND_NSW_NICHT_GLEICHZ - nicht_aktiv

2. hi beams on with low beams

4. disable seat belt chime


8. I wish we could close the mirrors with lock.
-SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN - aktiv (not tested)

9. Sync time with GPS.
-GPS_UHR - aktiv

10. Nav disclaimer off
- LAENDERVARIANTE_GT setting: ece

11. 1 click unlock after shutting car off...all 4 doors unlock

13. door gong

16. real speed on speedo

17. wiper goes back down after engine shut off

TerminatorX5 11-30-2012 12:57 PM

Slick, i sent the file twice to the email you gave me, it bounced both times - did you actually get it?

Also, you are doing just one module at a time - I did ALL modules at once (maybe I should not have!!) and I did not look at which line of programming was where - I just updated the line, and then wrote it in... I could not get windows to continue to roll when doors open, i could not get them roll up with the keyfob... but the time sync with GPS worked fine...

Also, it seems that some options need to change simultaneously with other parameters to take effect - door autolock did not take root until i updated the individual keys' programming...

SlickGT1 11-30-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 909362)
Slick, i sent the file twice to the email you gave me, it bounced both times - did you actually get it?

Also, you are doing just one module at a time - I did ALL modules at once (maybe I should not have!!) and I did not look at which line of programming was where - I just updated the line, and then wrote it in... I could not get windows to continue to roll when doors open, i could not get them roll up with the keyfob... but the time sync with GPS worked fine...

Also, it seems that some options need to change simultaneously with other parameters to take effect - door autolock did not take root until i updated the individual keys' programming...

Yea you have to do one module at a time. Windows up is literally one parameter to activ. That's it. My NCS was giving me issues doing all the modules at once.

The door lock is actually 2 features in GM I think. Just these settings, and thats it. Not sure which module this is from.

-VERRIEGELUNGSSCHWELLE - EXAMPLE: 16_km/h
-VERRIEGELN_AUT_AB_X_KM/H - NOTE: This is nicht_activ on mine, but it locks at 10mph.

SlickGT1 12-01-2012 01:48 PM

So I just finished trying everything above. My thoughts;
The gongs I returned back to stock. They can be removed with above codes, but I kind of like it factory reminders.

Double flash was nuts. Very fast double flash. Looks cool from outside, sounds nuts inside.

Cold monitoring fixed my strobe lights all around. I bet I can put the cheapest shit in my car now, and it will last. Cold monitoring has ruined one of my ice vxx lights. The driver side had CM active. Those rings look a faded color now. Gotta call iUmnotza and get warrantee on this.

Otherwise, I think I coded pretty much everything with the basics. I want to see if I can add the SA options from the E65 and try to get the mirrors to fold on lock.

fmugur 12-11-2012 12:15 AM

Terminator, can you please try to see if you find anyhthing in the coding file for the REST feature. It seems like you know quite a few languages including german and you might be able to figure out the acronyms. I wonder what are the choices for it. I am looking for the REST to turn on when the engine turns off...
I tried BMW Coding tool translator but I couldn't find it.

fmugur 12-11-2012 01:22 AM

I found that one guy was able to enable this feature on a 2011 335 using "REST_TASTE_VERBAUT" but I couldn't find it in our file.
This might be a feature that comes with the module and REST or MAX/AC...
REST (Residual Heat) feature coded back on a 2011 335i!!! - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com

jgold47 12-11-2012 07:58 AM

I am 98% sure thats not in our module. Remember, the E90 has a completely different electrical system from the older 38/39/46/53 etc... cars that share similar bases.

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 09:41 AM

FM, can you elaborateon what you are looking for?

In both of my E53s, the 2002 and 2006 models, I have an A/C button that says "MAX". When engine is running (and other criteria are met), when I push "MAX", I get the full speed fan, with the temp settings and the air circulation set for the maximum performance.

Once the engine is off (and other criteria is met), and I have the car key in my hands, if I press the "MAX" button, I get the residual heater turned on, long enough for a quick errand to a convenience store to pick up a doughnut or whatnot...

The "MAX" button operates identical to what the "REST" button used to do in my E39 - it just bears different name...

Do you wish the "rest" function to activate automatically upon removal of the key from the ignition?

Ricky Bobby 12-11-2012 10:05 AM

Slick,

Have you figured out the cold monitoring for the tail lights yet?

jgold47 12-11-2012 10:26 AM

cold monitoring is pretty easy, I dont have the exact line in front of me, but its kaltuberring XXX for the correct lights. I just turned all of mine off. I spent 15 years driving without knowing if a light was out. you may have to restart your car to get it to work, It seems to have solved my flicker I had last night with my new angel eyes.

Qsilver7 12-11-2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 910960)
... I am looking for the REST to turn on when the engine turns off...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5
...The "MAX" button operates identical to what the "REST" button used to do in my E39 - it just bears different name...

Ditto TX5...the MAX button performs the same operation as the old REST button as far as residual heat mode. When BMW changed the IHKA to include the MAX button...all that happened was a maximum cooling program was added to the IHKA....the REST feature wasn't removed...it was just incorporated into the MAX button. :)'

You still have to physically initiate the program...it doesn't start-up on it's own. But once started...the program will turn off after a specified time...or turn off when the ignition is turned past either position 1 or 2...and what ever IHKA setting you had prior...the system reverts back to that setting.

The MAX button will perform the REST(residual heat) program when:
  1. ambient temps are below 59 degrees F
  2. battery is properly charged
  3. engine is at normal operating temp


(this page below is from my old e38 or e39 owners manual...but the MAX/REST programming should work the same in the e53 since it is the same generational sibling as those two models)


http://bimmerboard.com/members/q/ori...structions.jpg

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 911007)
Slick,

Have you figured out the cold monitoring for the tail lights yet?

Yes. Do all of these. I have a feeling we can put in LED tails with all of these options changed. I just need someone to let me borrow their pair of tails to test. The second part of this is cold monitoring. I checked this too, stuck an led bulb in there, and no flicker.

8. LED Tail Light Option - if someone brings me a set of LED tails, I can test this.
-LED_RUECKLICHT_OPTION - chnage to Activ, not tested.
--Might also need to disable the following Cold Monitoring off.
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_L - change to nicht_activ
---KALTUEBERWACHUNG_BL_R - change to nicht_activ

Ricky Bobby 12-11-2012 11:49 AM

Awesome, the second part is what I want to try, pre-facelift so I dont have flickering while running, but strobing at startup from cold monitoring.

Thanks Slick, if you were closer to me I'd let you pop my tails out and put them on your car to test the LED option!

fmugur 12-11-2012 11:58 AM

Thanks for the explanation guys. I didn't know that the REST was still there on the modules with MAX button. Now, to get this MAX function on my module do I need to enable/code something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 910995)
FM, can you elaborateon what you are looking for?

Do you wish the "rest" function to activate automatically upon removal of the key from the ignition?

Yes, you got it right.

I would like this for two reasons:

I am speculating the idea that the rear of the engine is building up heat after the engine is turned off for short period of time and it causes the rubber o-rings and probably the valley pan to leak over time. I would think this residual heat being released would help. Here is the actual thread on this issue:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ring-life.html

Also in winter time is always nice to have that on by default.

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 12:09 PM

I understand your question now. I did not see anything in the factory programming that would suggest that this function is available.

The function is turned on by a telegram sent over the iBus from the IHKA and that activates the residual REST operation. Such a telegram can be sent by an external aftermarket (self-made) module that connects to the car's iBus.
For example, the StealthOne module can "press" the "ACCEPT" button on your behalf, thus eliminating the annoying screen from Nav display.

I do not have a box like that, nor can I make one - but there are people out there who have accomplished similar tasks - check the iBus Hackers on the yahoo groups - the folks there use Melexis IC chip (or Ressler iBus adapter) to connect to the iBus and use a computer (old laptop), that listens to the traffic on the iBus, and sends out pre-programmed commands if specified criteria is met....
For example, you can have your laptop listen for the ignition turning off, and then, in a couple of seconds the laptop would send "REST" command, thus activating your function...

I am not aware of any other way of achieving your desired results...
:(

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:06 PM

The only thing I can find that deals with coolant and climate control stuff is.

Remember Recirculating Air Setting after shutdown
UMLUFT_MEMORY - default is nicht_activ

Independant Park Heating
STANDHEIZUNG - default is nicht_activ

Coolant Damping
KUEHLWASSER_DEDAEMPFUNG - default is 25_sekunden

The independent heating could be the wabasco (sp) heater for diesels. So not sure.

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 911021)
Awesome, the second part is what I want to try, pre-facelift so I dont have flickering while running, but strobing at startup from cold monitoring.

Thanks Slick, if you were closer to me I'd let you pop my tails out and put them on your car to test the LED option!

Um, I'm in NYC actually. We should arrange something one of these days. Even if just to provide a service for the community.

jgold47 12-11-2012 01:17 PM

Dennis- do you have your lcm file handy? I did something last night and now my headlights are always on in auto mode regardless of how bright it is outside.

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 01:18 PM

independent heater is Webasco indeed - not just for diesels but also for gasoline/petrol engines as well... In Kazakhstan, for example, it is an absolute necessity to have one!! even in Moscow they were installing them...

fmugur 12-11-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 911030)
I understand your question now. I did not see anything in the factory programming that would suggest that this function is available.

The function is turned on by a telegram sent over the iBus from the IHKA and that activates the residual REST operation. Such a telegram can be sent by an external aftermarket (self-made) module that connects to the car's iBus.
For example, the StealthOne module can "press" the "ACCEPT" button on your behalf, thus eliminating the annoying screen from Nav display.

I do not have a box like that, nor can I make one - but there are people out there who have accomplished similar tasks - check the iBus Hackers on the yahoo groups - the folks there use Melexis IC chip (or Ressler iBus adapter) to connect to the iBus and use a computer (old laptop), that listens to the traffic on the iBus, and sends out pre-programmed commands if specified criteria is met....
For example, you can have your laptop listen for the ignition turning off, and then, in a couple of seconds the laptop would send "REST" command, thus activating your function...

I am not aware of any other way of achieving your desired results...
:(

Thanks Terminator I will look nto that.

And to enable the MAX function on my module although it has button labeled REST what should I turn aktiv?

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 911058)
Dennis- do you have your lcm file handy? I did something last night and now my headlights are always on in auto mode regardless of how bright it is outside.

yes I do.

Get on Gmail, and we can chat.

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 911067)
Thanks Terminator I will look nto that.

And to enable the MAX function on my module although it has button labeled REST what should I turn aktiv?


you have the same car type as I do - you do not need to do any programming in the NCS.

As you drive, press the button MAX/REST and the A/C should kick into the overdrive.

Once you park (after a relatively long drive), turn the car off, pull the key out, press the key MAX/REST, and the A/C should kick in with the warm air coming into the cabin.

Test it and let us know if it worked as described.

fmugur 12-11-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 911054)
The only thing I can find that deals with coolant and climate control stuff is.

Remember Recirculating Air Setting after shutdown
UMLUFT_MEMORY - default is nicht_activ

Independant Park Heating
STANDHEIZUNG - default is nicht_activ

Coolant Damping
KUEHLWASSER_DEDAEMPFUNG - default is 25_sekunden

The independent heating could be the wabasco (sp) heater for diesels. So not sure.

Thanks Slick. I can try to change these values. Do you know the module?

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:42 PM

fmugur, please read what Qsilver7 posted in post 117

The rest feature will not work in the summer, basically when you actually need it most, above 59 F.

My suggestion is to tap into the aux pump wiring, and make a circuit to power it on for a set amount of time. I think civdiv should be contacted regarding this.

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 01:48 PM

FM, these settings are probably in IHKA but they will not give you the automated REST function. you have to be very careful with these settings - I changed one of them once (by accident), and the pseudoREST kicked in and was blowing for a long time while car totally cold (a few hours) until i removed the A/C fuse. I was worried about the battery dying, but it was ok...

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 911070)
Thanks Slick. I can try to change these values. Do you know the module?

No I haven't broken them down yet. This is from my initial list of "oh WTF is this" when I read my entire EWS car.

I have only fully deciphered LCM, and GM3.

I have a list of stuff you wont believe in my WTF doc.

Like my car is listed as m62b44 in engine hype.

Or how my cars rolling width is e53_hp. Curious what you non 4.8is guys have for this.

I know my engine is n62b48.

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 911073)
FM, these settings are probably in IHKA but they will not give you the automated REST function. you have to be very careful with these settings - I changed one of them once (by accident), and the pseudoREST kicked in and was blowing for a long time while car totally cold (a few hours) until i removed the A/C fuse. I was worried about the battery dying, but it was ok...

I wouldn't worry about trying these. You can always revert back. Just make sure you save your original TRC file and label it with whatever module you read/coded.

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 01:51 PM

e53_hp - the iS version, if I am not mistaken...

How about speedo and odo clicks? what are their values?

fmugur 12-11-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 911071)
fmugur, please read what Qsilver7 posted in post 117

The rest feature will not work in the summer, basically when you actually need it most, above 59 F.

My suggestion is to tap into the aux pump wiring, and make a circuit to power it on for a set amount of time. I think civdiv should be contacted regarding this.

I know. Good point. I thought about that too but I am not sure how the control valves are left after turning the engine off... and I guess the fan not running should be ok.

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 911078)
e53_hp - the iS version, if I am not mistaken...

How about speedo and odo clicks? what are their values?

lol I figured that.

Distance Unit is Miles
Speed is Miles per hour
Temp is F
Fuel is Miles per gallon.

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 911081)
I know. Good point. I thought about that too but I am not sure how the control valves are left after turning the engine off... and I guess the fan not running should be ok.

Yea you are still going through all of engine and radiator. Bypassing REST function would at least make it work all the time, and not make your car into a 200 degree F oven in the summer.

jgold47 12-11-2012 07:42 PM

5 Attachment(s)
here are a couple of fsw dumps from my car from tonight. GM3, LCM, IHKA, KMBI and TCU. There is an interesting line in the TCU for bluetooth active. I wonder if I could have used this to activate the bluetooth on my 04 spec TCU that had a PK but I couldnt get to connect. I still have it, but I dont want to pull everything out to try it.

Anyone with one of those 04 spec bubble TCU's that wants to try it?

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 08:40 PM

So is this the messed up ones?

jgold47 12-11-2012 08:46 PM

no I dont think they are messed up. I just think it was overcast today and my auto lights were on. I found a few posts from 38/39/53 folks talking about this time of year and the RLS being agressive.

I'm never in the car during the day since I'm always at work. had to run an errand at work so it was strange. I did turn off the tagfarlict line, but looking at what I woudl have changed last night, I didnt touch anything that should cause a problem.

Now I want to see if there is a way to keep the true sidemarkers (on the side of the car) on with the lights, and flash with the blinkers. I love the no turn signal/parking light look - good call, but dont like my car having zero side visibilty.

SlickGT1 12-11-2012 09:00 PM

Yea I'm actually with you 100%. Let me know if any line works out. I'll try later as well.

jgold47 12-11-2012 09:07 PM

It would be helpful if we knew what the code for those lights were. Like fl/al/Sv/. Etc

Qsilver7 12-11-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 911067)
...to enable the MAX function on my module although it has button labeled REST what should I turn aktiv?

Wait...are you saying that your IHKA control panel doesn't have the MAX button...but the REST button only?

If your IHKA only has the REST button...then it does NOT have the MAX cooling feature. You'd need to install an IHKA with the MAX button, then code it to your car.

fmugur 12-11-2012 10:02 PM

Qsilver, very interesting information. My IHKA has only the REST and I tried today on my way home the there is no MAX function on it.
I tried a while back to use the main-board from a module that had the MAX function but the screen was broken. Unfortunately I couldn't make one new module. My screen board wasn't compatible with the main board from the spare module.

I had no idea there was even a solar sensor... Very complex engineering in these cars.
So, without the solar sensor I guess I can get the MAX function but the IHKA will not compensate for solar radiation.

fmugur 12-11-2012 10:40 PM

I cannot find this:

Coolant Damping
KUEHLWASSER_DEDAEMPFUNG - default is 25_sekunden

Slick, where did you find it?

TerminatorX5 12-11-2012 11:13 PM

FM, what are the last 7 digits of your VIN? or, at least, what is the month/year of production?

fmugur 12-11-2012 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 911206)
FM, what are the last 7 digits of your VIN? or, at least, what is the month/year of production?

LH00940

TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 12:01 AM

Type
Value
VIN WBAFB3349YLH00940
Type code FB33
Type X5 4.4I (USA)
E series E53 ()
Series X
Type GEFZG
Steering LL
Doors 5
Engine M62/TU
Displacement 4.40
Power 210
Drive ALLR
Transmission AUT
Colour PEARLBEIGE METALLIC (411)
Upholstery STANDARDLEDER/PASTELLGRUEN (N6SK)
Prod.date 1999-10-14

Code
Description (interface)
Description (EPC)


S205A AUTOMATIC GETRIEBE Automatic transmission
S386A DACHRELING Roof railing
S403A GLASDACH, ELEKTRISCH Glass roof, electrical
S437A EDELHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG Fine wood trim
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S464A SKISACK Ski bag
S494A SITZHEIZUNG FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Seat heating driver/passenger
S502A SCHEINWERFER-WASCHANLAGE Headlight cleaning system
S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor
S522A XENON-LICHT Xenon Light
S555A BORDCOMPUTER On-board computer V with remote control
S662A RADIO BMW BUSINESS CD Radio BMW Business CD
S677A HIFI SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL HiFi System Professional DSP
S691A CD-HALTERUNG CD holder
S761A INDIVIDUAL SONNENSCHUTZVERGLASUNG Individual sunshade glazing
Code


Description (interface)
Description (EPC)
S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch
S926A ERSATZRAD Spare wheel
S999A AUFTRAGSSTEUERUNG HEA Job order management "HEA"

Code
Description (interface)
Description (EPC)
S220A NIVEAUREGULIERUNG Self-levelling suspension
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S310A LM RAEDER/STERNSPEICHE 58 BMW light alloy wheel, star spoke 58
S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Green windscreen, green shade band
S459A SITZVERSTELLUNG, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY Seat adjuster, electric, with memory
S473A ARMAUFLAGE VORN Armrest front
S533A FOND-KLIMATISIERUNG Air conditioning, rear
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S540A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGELUNG Cruise control
S640A AUTOTELEFONVORBEREITUNG Preparation f tel.installation universal
S692A CD WECHSLER I-BUS VORBEREITUNG Preparation, BMW 6-CD changer I-bus
S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic belt warning
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version English
S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz
S992A STEUERUNG KENNZEICHENBEFESTIGUNG Control of number-plate attachment

TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 12:08 AM

your car is actually equipped with IHKR, not IHKA - i am still checking what the difference is between the two... IHKR was fitted from 1999-09 to 2000-09

fmugur 12-12-2012 01:03 AM

Are you sure it's IHKR? It looks like the IHKR refers to the manual climate control.

TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 01:13 AM

your car's order sheet says automatic, which is IHKA... the other docs say IHKR... so, i am trying to figure out which version you have (which i suspect 99%, it should be IHKA)... there is an A11 module that corresponds to IHKA for your production date, but for some reason, the schematics are not coming up - i probably need to clear the computer's cache...

jgold47 12-12-2012 07:02 AM

Terminator, how did you get that build sheet so fast?

tmv 12-12-2012 10:18 AM

^Put the last 7 digits of your VIN here jgold47

TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 10:31 AM

there are two sites, one is a newer site bmwvin.com which was down last night for whatever reason, and the other one is rubmw.ru, which is older but is in russian - you need to navigate to english portion of the site...

X5SND 12-12-2012 11:27 AM

Hey T, is it possible to turn off lights based on what position the light switch is on?

SlickGT1 12-12-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 911279)
Hey T, is it possible to turn off lights based on what position the light switch is on?

I don't quite understand what you mean with this question.

I turn my lights on manual, just because I want to decide when what is on.

So my lights in position 1, turn on only the Angel Eyes. If I hit the fog light button, the fogs turn on.

If I put in position 2, my HIDs turn on.

Qsilver7 12-12-2012 12:23 PM

Man...if you fall asleep...you miss a lot. :D

If the build sheet lists : S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning ... then that is the IHKA control panel. The IHKR is the manual control panel that has the 3 round dials that use bowden cables to operate the air flaps & temp control, etc.

And with an early build date...your IHKA control panel would have the REST button and not the MAX button. So, if you wanted to upgrade to the an IHKA w/MAX button...you would have to find a new or used one, then code your car so that it can run the extra programming (max cooling) feature. Your vehicle won't automatically perform the MAX function without reprogramming.

Below is an illustrated diagram of the manual IHKR control unit:


TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 12:25 PM

Short answer - NO.
Long answer - YES... the light switch S8 (like many other switches in the car) sends a signal to the LCM based on the switch position. There is a small circuitry inside the switch that allows the LCM to monitor the switch for the position and based on that, turn on/off specific light. The lights in the car can be turned on/off by sending specific commands on the iBus, and you might create a special effects light show (first 30 seconds of this video BMW M7 - YouTube). Thus, it is possible to build a box that will intercept the signals coming from the light switch S8 and tell the LCM to behave in your specifically desired way.

good example is a little box that I have for the TV module, that blocks the speed signal coming to the TV module and tells the module the speed is zero, hence allowing the TV to stay on while the car is in motion.

So, the answer is - do you want to build such a box?

X5SND 12-12-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 911285)
I don't quite understand what you mean with this question.

I turn my lights on manual, just because I want to decide when what is on.

So my lights in position 1, turn on only the Angel Eyes. If I hit the fog light button, the fogs turn on.

If I put in position 2, my HIDs turn on.

I think you just answered my question. What I want to do is this:
"Auto" - all light function normally as they would from the factory.
"off" - Same function as factory
"Park lights" - only angel eyes on. All rear lights off as well.
"last position" - same as factory

Essentially it would just be the angel eyes on when the light switch is switched to park lamps.

I can't/don't want to disable the markers when the headlamps are on because the cops around here aren't the friendliest bunch.

Ricky Bobby 12-12-2012 12:41 PM

so you want angel eyes as DRL then?

X5SND 12-12-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 911301)
so you want angel eyes as DRL then?

Essentially...but only when switched on. Ill be embarking on a headlamp project this weekend...the new angel eyes when said and done should rival the brightness of the new BMW lights. Hence the light coding questions. :)

fmugur 12-12-2012 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 911293)
Man...if you fall asleep...you miss a lot. :D

If the build sheet lists : S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning ... then that is the IHKA control panel. The IHKR is the manual control panel that has the 3 round dials that use bowden cables to operate the air flaps & temp control, etc.

And with an early build date...your IHKA control panel would have the REST button and not the MAX button. So, if you wanted to upgrade to the an IHKA w/MAX button...you would have to find a new or used one, then code your car so that it can run the extra programming (max cooling) feature. Your vehicle won't automatically perform the MAX function without reprogramming.

Below is an illustrated diagram of the manual IHKR control unit:


Thanks Qsilver. By reprogram the car you mean to do the module swap coding, not the actual NCS Expert 'aktiv' file change. I don't remember now but when I tried the module with the cracked screen and MAX feature, I did the swap with GT1 or SSS but I am not sure I tried the MAX though. I might have...

Now, I am trying to change these values but I cannot find the third one below.
Is this because I am missing some options on the car? What module was that supposed to be in?

Remember Recirculating Air Setting after shutdown
UMLUFT_MEMORY - default is nicht_activ

Independant Park Heating
STANDHEIZUNG - default is nicht_activ

Coolant Damping
KUEHLWASSER_DEDAEMPFUNG - default is 25_sekunden

TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 02:40 PM

this is in reference to the AC question...

The A11 module from 09-1999 to 09-2000 has 5 connectors and the newer A11 modules have 4 connectors. Extra connector X18153 (6-pin) from the older module has only one pin engaged, and that is the pin that seems to be the INDEPENDENT PARK HEATING CHECK VALVE. That pin has been moved to another connector (X610) on the newer modules, and the whole connector X18153 was eliminated - but the point is, there are same functions between the both, older and newer A11 modules...

I can not view SVG files at work, so I can't trace that pin on the schematics until I get home, to see if that signal goes to same locations on both, older and newer cars...

TerminatorX5 12-12-2012 02:58 PM

this one is reference to the lights operation - this write up refers to E38/E39 but still applies to E53:

Light check control module (LCM)


The light check control module combines the functions of the following control units previously installed individually in the E38:
  • Light module
  • Check-control module
  • Manual beam throw control
As of production break 95, the light check control module replaces the light module and check control module control units in the E38 and will be installed in all E39 vehicles as of series launch.
Functions, general

Diagnosis as well as communication with other control units takes place via the I-bus (E38/E39 high) or K-bus (E39 basic).

In the event of the control unit or one of its peripheral elements failing, an emergency operation facility maintains following functions.
  • The outer rear lights (no licence plate light) low beam light, are switched on at "terminal 15 ON" irrespective of the position of the light switch.
  • The left and right brake lights are switched on at "terminal 15 ON" and the brake light switch operated.
No communication via the I-bus/K-bus, i.e. also no diagnosis, is possible in emergency mode.
If a trailer coupling is installed in the vehicle, the lamp circuits of the pulling vehicle with a trailer module must be disconnected from those of the trailer. The LCM is connected to the trailer module via a data link.
A diagnosis program is provided for all 3 function spheres of the LCM.
Light functions


The light check control module controls and monitors
  • all external vehicle headlights and lamps both when switched on and switched off (cold and warm monitoring)
  • all switches and buttons for light functions
  • The functions of the dimmer for the instrument lights and locator lights
Components

With the exception of the brake light switch, all switches scanned by the LCM are designed such that they switch to ground.

The following switches are scanned by the LCM:
  • Combined switch for parking light/low beam
  • Turn signal/dip switch
  • Fog light switch
  • Brake light switch
  • Hazard warning push-button
  • Dimmer potentiometer for instrument locator lights
The LCM receives further information via the I-bus/K-bus.
Light switch
When the light switch is in rest position, all contacts are closed (R < 1 Ohm) and the corresponding contact is opened (R> 1 MOhm) in the low beam or high beam position.
The lighting for the light switch is controlled separately by the LCM. It lights at full brightness when the light switch is in the OFF position. It is dimmed to the same extent as the instrument and locator lights when they are switched on.
Brake light switch
The brake light switch is permanently monitored by the LCM when terminal R is activated.
It is designed as a Hall sensor and features 3 lines (terminal R, terminal 31, signal line). The test switch is not necessary.
Hazard warning switch
The indicator lamp for the hazard warning function is located in the hazard warning switch. It also serves as a locator light.
Dimmer potentiometer
The dimmed instrument, locator and function lights (terminal 58g) is activated when the light switch is in the parking light or low beam light position.
The voltage generated at terminal 58g is dependent on the position of the dimmer potentiometer.
Activation of indicator lamps in the instrument cluster
The indicator lamps for left turn signal indicator, right turn signal indicator, rear fog light, fog light and high beam located in the instrument cluster are activated via the I-Bus/K-bus.
Lights

The lamps of the vehicle lighting system are monitored both when switched off and switched on (cold and warm monitoring).
The lamps are activated by means of transistors. Due to the fact that they are now short-circuit-protected, the standard lamp fuses are no longer necessary.
The lamps can also be activated via the diagnosis function.
The country-specific functions of the lamp circuits are coded.
Check control functions

The task of the check control is to inform the driver. It provides him with information via the text display in the display unit of the IKE (E38/E39 high) or via the LC display field for check control messages in the instrument cluster (E39 basic) regarding failure of important functions as well as notes and warnings.
Common features of both wiring systems

The check control function in the LCM monitors its own sensors and detects when a message is necessary for these sensors. Consequently it sends a data telegram to the IKE/instrument cluster with the request to display the message text in the text display or the message in the display field for check control messages.

The following sensors are monitored:
  • Thermal oil level sensor
  • Brake fluid level switch
  • Coolant level switch
  • Wash water level switch
The LCM is additionally connected via a line to the EML and DDE control units.
An ignition lock and belt buckle contact is included in the US version.
In addition, it also receives LCM-internal messages concerning defective lamps.
Added to this, it evaluates messages from other control units which it receives via the I-bus and sends the corresponding request to the IKE/instrument cluster.

Vehicle system E38/E39 high

The messages are, in part, accompanied by an acoustic annunciator.
The gong in conjunction with check control messages is activated via the I-bus (no direct line link between the LCM and gong). It should be noted that depending on the importance and number of messages previously occurred an acoustic signal does not sound every time and also not for the same message.
The following check control text messages are possible in the E38/E39 high system:
Check engine oil level
The level is determined by a thermal oil level sensor.
It supplies a square-wave signal and receives voltage as of terminal 15.

Check brake fluid
Top up wash water
Check coolant level
Engine emergency program
If problems are detected at the throttle or at the pedal sensor, the EML assumes emergency mode, accompanied by a distinct reduction in engine performance. In this case, the check control receives a signal via a line, with which the LCM is connected directly to the EML, and outputs this message.
Preheating/injection systemg
The LCM is connected via a line to the DDE control unit, from which it receives a signal for the messages preheating and injection system.
EEPROM LCM
appears when the LCM is not coded.
Ignition key in lock (US only)
A switch connected to ground is located in the ignition lock. The display is shown when the driver's door is open until the ignition key is removed, however, only at "ignition OFF".
Buckle belt (US, Gulf States only)
The message appears when the seat belt has not been buckled (closed). The belt contact switch which switches to ground is connected directly to the LCM.
Information which the check control receives from the IKE/instrument cluster:
The check control receives information from the IKE for the following messages. Troubleshooting should be continued in the IKE if incorrect messages are received.
Transmission emergency program
If there is a defect in a transmission control unit to the IKE, the LCM is informed via the I-bus.
Release parking brake
This message appears on exceeding a speed of 5 km/h with the parking brake applied.
Check brake pad
Coolant temperature
Stop! Engine oil pressure

Information which the check control receives from the ZKE:
The check control receives information from the ZKE and processes it for the following messages. Troubleshooting should be continued in the ZKE if incorrect messages are received.
Door open
This message is output as of a speed of 5 km/h if the driver's, passenger's or rear door is open.
Luggage compartment (boot/trunk) open
This message appears on exceeding a speed of 5 km/h with the boot/trunk lid open.
Light on?
This indication appears in ignition lock position "0" when the driver's door is opened with the parking light switched on.

The LCM evaluates all light messages internally.
E39 basic system

On vehicles with the basic system, information is indicated not in the form of text messages but rather by warning lamps and symbols in the LC display field for check control messages in the instrument cluster.
The check control also requests indication for following lamps:
General brake warning lamp
This switch is activated by the LCM when its brake fluid level switch informs it that the brake fluid level is too low.
Wash water
This lamp lights when the switch connected to the LCM signals that the wash water level is too low.
Oil level indicator lamp
The oil level is determined by a thermal oil level sensor. It is connected directly to the LCM and supplies a square-wave signal with a frequency serving as a measure for the level. It receives its power supply as of terminal 15.
Preheating
The LCM is connected via a line link to the DDE control unit, from which it receives the signal to activate this lamp.
Seat belt indicator lamp
On US and Gulf State vehicles, this lamp lights as of "ignition ON" when the seat belt has not been buckled (closed). The belt contact switch which switches to ground is connected directly to the LCM.
Defective lamps (in the LC display for check control messages)
Door messages (in the LC display for check control messages)
Catalytic converter overheating (Japan version only)
Additionally: Gong with ignition key in lock (US version only)

Manual headlight beam throw control

If a manual headlight beam throw control facility is installed in the vehicle (identification feature): Knurled wheel for manual headlight beam throw control (on instrument panel) then this function is included in the LCM.
The LCM receives a voltage signal from the knurled wheel for manual headlight beam throw control and activates the motors in the headlights accordingly.
These motors are designed as stepper motors. They are connected in parallel. For this reason, although the electronic control can detect a short-circuit, it cannot detect a break in one of the two motors.
Adjustment via the knurled wheel is no longer possible in the case of fault.
The electronic control conducts a referencing run when the parking lights are switched on or when terminal 61 ("engine running") is activated.

Ricky Bobby 12-12-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 911303)
Essentially...but only when switched on. Ill be embarking on a headlamp project this weekend...the new angel eyes when said and done should rival the brightness of the new BMW lights. Hence the light coding questions. :)

so why don't you code off the parking light ambers and just use angel eyes as parking lights? i don't think you can get away from tail lights being on when the switch is in the parking light position

jgold47 12-12-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 911319)
so why don't you code off the parking light ambers and just use angel eyes as parking lights? i don't think you can get away from tail lights being on when the switch is in the parking light position

there are a couple of lines that relate to angel eye's as DRL's but i never gotten them to work. Its probably one of those combination codes that needs another line adjusted.

X5SND 12-12-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 911296)
Short answer - NO.
Long answer - YES... the light switch S8 (like many other switches in the car) sends a signal to the LCM based on the switch position. There is a small circuitry inside the switch that allows the LCM to monitor the switch for the position and based on that, turn on/off specific light. The lights in the car can be turned on/off by sending specific commands on the iBus, and you might create a special effects light show (first 30 seconds of this video BMW M7 - YouTube). Thus, it is possible to build a box that will intercept the signals coming from the light switch S8 and tell the LCM to behave in your specifically desired way.

good example is a little box that I have for the TV module, that blocks the speed signal coming to the TV module and tells the module the speed is zero, hence allowing the TV to stay on while the car is in motion.

So, the answer is - do you want to build such a box?


That would be the iLights module or whatever its called.....Im not interested in making a light show. I Was just curious as to what options (as far as custom coding individual lights) through the LCM were available to us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 911318)

That would be the iLights module or whatever its called.....Im not interested in making a light show. I Was just curious as to what options (as far as custom coding individual lights) through the LCM were available to us.

Lights

The lamps of the vehicle lighting system are monitored both when switched off and switched on (cold and warm monitoring).
The lamps are activated by means of transistors. Due to the fact that they are now short-circuit-protected, the standard lamp fuses are no longer necessary.
The lamps can also be activated via the diagnosis function.
The country-specific functions of the lamp circuits are coded.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but if the switch position is monitored as you said, and the lamp circuits are coded.....wouldn't that mean we're able to code light functions as we see fit? I know that relies on the assumption that we know which lines of code to change an how...

X5SND 12-12-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 911319)
so why don't you code off the parking light ambers and just use angel eyes as parking lights? i don't think you can get away from tail lights being on when the switch is in the parking light position

Call it the OCD in me that would irritate the heck out of me knowing the tail lights were on...lol

jgold47 12-12-2012 04:50 PM

you could try this code:

TAGFAHRLICHT_ECE : Daytime running lights(ECE)[angle eyes]

to aktiv

Try playing with these two

BLK_V_GED_ALS_SIDEMARK - this controls the functions of the side markers, but may turn everything off.
aktiv
BLK_V_GEDIMMT_ALS_ERSATZ
aktiv
BL_ALS_SL_DIMMEN - this should mabye turn off your brake lights as parking lights
aktiv


you could also turn on your high beams as DRL which is the normal

GED_FL_ALS_DRL


but then turn the intensity all the way down.
using

FL_DIMMUNG_ALS_DRL
wert_06

The problem is I cant figure out what wert_06 means (_01-05 I can find). FL_DIMMUNG_ALS_DRL :wert_01 = 0 % wert_02 = 18,82 % wert_03 = 20,39 % wert_04 = 43,92 %wert_05 = 18,82 % setting intensity of high beams for daytime running light

so maybe try wert_01 and see if the tagfarlict works for you.

I sort of had this set up yesterday and it didnt work, but I was having problems with the ALS turning on and that may have disrupted the normal DRL function.



Dennis -

SL_INNEN_ALS_TWL : parking light
SL_VORNE_ALS_ZUSATZ_BLK : front parking light as additional turn light

Both are set to nicht.

could be what we are looking for.

the problem is the stupid nomenclature keeps changing between the lights. One minute they are side markers, then parking lights, then SL (standlict), but then there are three distinct sets of SL's, SL_LH, SL_LHI and SL_LV (and then rights), which I guess is Stand licht (rear?), stand licht inner (rear) and standlicht (front) that can be hot and cold monitored. I guess we could isolate the code by pulling the bulb hot and seeing if hot monitoring picks it up. then start coding off hot monitoring till it goes away.

SlickGT1 12-12-2012 06:12 PM

Right I was looking at that too. This is what I came up with.

STANDLICHT = SL = PARKING LIGHTS

VORNE = AHEAD

INNEN = INNER

ALS - AS

The issue is I can't figure out what TWL stands for. I guess nothing left to do but try it.

LH = LEFT REAR
LHI = LEFT REAR INNER
LV = FRONT LEFT
RH = REAR RIGHT
RHI = REAR RIGHT INNER
RV = FRONT RIGHT.

So when the two are side by side, L = Left, V = Front, R = Right, H = Rear, I = Inner.

Now what about UEBERSPG_ABSCHALT_SL_H - nicht_activ on mine. I think this is Overvoltage OFF Parking light Rear

SL_VORNE_ALS_ZUSATZ_BLK - wouldn't this make the AE blink as turn signals?
SL_INNEN_ALS_TWL = This translates to Parklight inner as (TWL) WTF is TWL? I think we need to try this one first.


================================================== =======
Side note, my car FL_DIMMUNG_ALS_DRL is wert_06, my drls are off.
GED_FL_ALS_DRL is nicht_activ as well.

SlickGT1 12-12-2012 06:22 PM

Also another thing to try,

Did you notice that we have

BLK_DIMMUNGS_OPT_1 = TURN SIGNAL DIMMING OPTION 1 - nicht_activ
BLK_DIMMUNGS_OPT_2 = TURN SIGNAL DIMMING OPTION 2 - activ
BLK_V_GED_ALS_PARKLIGHT = DIMMED FRONT TURN SIGNAL AS PARKLIGHT (i made this nicht_activ)

Now I am curious what the dimming option 1 does. Maybe it turns on the turn signal only with the lights being in auto, or position 2. While option 2 turns on the corners in every position but zero.

ADDING THE FOLLOWING JUST TO HAVE ALL THE TURN SIGNAL OPTIONS IN ONE POST
BLK_V_GED_ALS_SIDEMARK - Dimmed front turn signal as side marker - activ CURRENTLY
BLK_V_GEDIMMT_ALS_ERSATZ - Dimmed front turn signal as replacement light - activ CURRENTLY

X5SND 12-12-2012 06:44 PM

Wow, thanks guys really appreciate all the info thus far! Im looking at this stuff still trying to discern what I'm about to get myself into (in a good way though)!! Although I'm not going to tinker with this stuff till probably later next week, I want to figure out a plan of attack/place to start with regards to coding lights!

jgold47 12-12-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 911360)
Right I was looking at that too. This is what I came up with.

STANDLICHT = SL = PARKING LIGHTS

VORNE = AHEAD

INNEN = INNER

ALS - AS

The issue is I can't figure out what TWL stands for. I guess nothing left to do but try it.

LH = LEFT REAR
LHI = LEFT REAR INNER
LV = FRONT LEFT
RH = REAR RIGHT
RHI = REAR RIGHT INNER
RV = FRONT RIGHT.

So when the two are side by side, L = Left, V = Front, R = Right, H = Rear, I = Inner.

Now what about UEBERSPG_ABSCHALT_SL_H - nicht_activ on mine. I think this is Overvoltage OFF Parking light Rear

SL_VORNE_ALS_ZUSATZ_BLK - wouldn't this make the AE blink as turn signals?
SL_INNEN_ALS_TWL = This translates to Parklight inner as (TWL) WTF is TWL? I think we need to try this one first.


================================================== =======
Side note, my car FL_DIMMUNG_ALS_DRL is wert_06, my drls are off.
GED_FL_ALS_DRL is nicht_activ as well.


SL_VORNE_ALS_ZUSATZ_BLK - wouldn't this make the AE blink as turn

except that it says parking light in the description. so we get back to that nomenclature thing.

SL_VO sure feels like the AE's but it says parking lights.

Oddly, I thought you told me to turn off

BLK_V_GED_ALS_SIDEMARK - to get the front turn signals off, but I am showing it as active? so now I am confused what I used to turn off the turn signals.

SlickGT1 12-12-2012 06:52 PM

I have a feeling you are looking at your original file, and not the modified man file. Run ncs again and get the current file from there. I bet it's nicht_activ on that line.

TerminatorX5 12-13-2012 02:54 AM

FL - HIGH BEAMS (L-LEFT; R-RIGHT)
NSW - FRONT FOG LIGHTS (L-LEFT; R-RIGHT)
AL - LOW BEAMS (L-LEFT; R-RIGHT)
BL - BRAKE LIGHTS (L-LEFT; R-RIGHT; M-MIDDLE)
BLK - TURN SIGNALS (LH-REAR LEFT; LV-FRONT LEFT; LZ-SIDE LEFT; RH-REAR RIGHT; RV-FRONT RIGHT; RZ-SIDE RIGHT)
KZL - LICENSE PLATE LIGHTS
NSL - REAR FOG LIGHTS (L-LEFT; R-RIGHT)
RFS - REVERSING LIGHTS (L-LEFT; R-RIGHT)
SL - PARKING LIGHTS (H-REAR; V-FRONT; LH-REAR LEFT; LHI-REAR LEFT; LV-FRONT LEFT; RH-REAR RIGHT; RHI-REAR RIGHT; RV-FRONT RIGHT)

TerminatorX5 12-28-2012 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 905657)
PWM_FL_BIX
wert_02

high beam bi xenon together with high beams - not tested, change to wert_01


Just tested:

PWM_FL_BIX
wert_02 => change to => wert_01

in LCM module

high beam bi-xenon together with regular high beams

working fine


EDIT: coupled with simultaneous front fog lights, I have all 6 front lights shining at the same time!!!

SlickGT1 12-28-2012 08:35 AM

I forgot which one I did, but yea all 6 lights for me as well.

upallnight 12-29-2012 12:13 AM

I was told by my coder that I can have the car self lock itself after 2 minutes once all the doors are closed, but I had that feature on another car and had my keys lock in it one time so I told him not to add that feature.

tmv 12-29-2012 09:49 AM

I think he meant the car will re-lock itself after you un-lock it and no door open for about 2 min.

SlickGT1 12-29-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 914093)
I think he meant the car will re-lock itself after you un-lock it and no door open for about 2 min.

You are correct.

jgold47 01-09-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 913933)
Just tested:

PWM_FL_BIX
wert_02 => change to => wert_01

in LCM module

high beam bi-xenon together with regular high beams

working fine


EDIT: coupled with simultaneous front fog lights, I have all 6 front lights shining at the same time!!!

so how does this work?

normal high beams are the xenons with the covers up.
flash to pass are the h7's in the inner bowls

when you pull flash to pass, do both light up (h7's and xenon's)?
when you push to go to high beams then are both lit?

TerminatorX5 01-09-2013 09:56 AM

daytime, no front lights are on - flash the stalk, center highbeam halogen lights flash

daytime, no front lights are on - push the stalk, nothing happens.

nighttime, xenons (low beams) are active, front fog lights are on - flash the stalk, center highbeam halogen lights flash, xenon lights remain on, bi-xenon shield is Not activated, front fog lights remain on

nighttime, xenons (low beams) are active, front fog lights are on - push the stalk, center highbeam halogen lights come on, xenon lights remain on, bi-xenon shield is activated, front fog lights remain on

jgold47 01-09-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 915668)
daytime, no front lights are on - flash the stalk, center highbeam halogen lights flash

daytime, no front lights are on - push the stalk, nothing happens.

nighttime, xenons (low beams) are active, front fog lights are on - flash the stalk, center highbeam halogen lights flash, xenon lights remain on, bi-xenon shield is Not activated, front fog lights remain on

nighttime, xenons (low beams) are active, front fog lights are on - push the stalk, center highbeam halogen lights come on, xenon lights remain on, bi-xenon shield is activated, front fog lights remain on

thats pretty much perfect.

will be doing on saturday.

I think I am turning my side markers back on. Just not comfortable driving around without. I dont see any other cars without them, and I dont want some cop getting excited.

jgold47 01-09-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 915673)
thats pretty much perfect.

will be doing on saturday.

I think I am turning my side markers back on. Just not comfortable driving around without. I dont see any other cars without them, and I dont want some cop getting excited.


wait - I just looked at the lsz dump from a couple of pages ago, and I dont have this in my module? Is it possible its an older code?

TerminatorX5 01-09-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 915673)
thats pretty much perfect.

will be doing on saturday.

I think I am turning my side markers back on. Just not comfortable driving around without. I dont see any other cars without them, and I dont want some cop getting excited.


i played with front sidemarkers, and still prefer them to be off - in daytime, no lights are on, at night the xenons are on - the parking lights are not on by themselves when the switch S8 is in auto position. if somebody can't see the xenons shining, then we have other problems than the front parking lights

jgold47 01-09-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 915675)
i played with front sidemarkers, and still prefer them to be off - in daytime, no lights are on, at night the xenons are on - the parking lights are not on by themselves when the switch S8 is in auto position. if somebody can't see the xenons shining, then we have other problems than the front parking lights

did you see my other note? I dont seem to have the PWM code in my lsz. Could it be something else?

TerminatorX5 01-09-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 915682)
did you see my other note? I dont seem to have the PWM code in my lsz. Could it be something else?

I just saw this post... interesting... what post number is your dump?

SlickGT1 01-09-2013 01:44 PM

I think it's because term pulls the data from all his modules. Not the individual ones.

jgold47 01-09-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 915699)
I think it's because term pulls the data from all his modules. Not the individual ones.

do you think that in another module then?

Term, look back on page 14 or 15 or so.


Slick, did you use a different line?

TerminatorX5 01-09-2013 02:02 PM

i found your post... interesting... i'll try to find out to see which module has it... anyone else tried this line? Slick, did you get that function coded? which module was that line?

jgold47 01-09-2013 02:20 PM

hmm. all the positive results I have seen so far have been on 2006 cars. Maybe that was a later enhancement.

SlickGT1 01-09-2013 08:31 PM

Yea mine works. I have the list of working functions at my office pc. I will look it up the tomorrow I hope.

jgold47 01-12-2013 12:08 AM

did either of you get a chance to check your files?

I'm planning on working on the car tomorrow.

no worries

SlickGT1 01-12-2013 02:50 PM

I got that flu man. Dying in bed not moving. Thank god for iPhone or I would kill myself. I did have a buddy bring my laptop home, but he left it in garage. I'll try to get down there later tonight if these shivers stop.

jgold47 01-12-2013 06:23 PM

WHAT THE FUCK DENNIS GET OFF YOUR LAZY FUCKING ASS AND GO GET ME MY CODES.

Just kidding. I am shocked I havent gotten sick yet. knock on wood. Amazon sent me the wrong high beams, changing them looks like a nightmare, and without fancy white lights, I am just going to use the normal programming for now. maybe in the spring.

Feel better, lots of fluids, etc..

SlickGT1 01-12-2013 06:53 PM

Wait what codes do you need exactly anyway. I thought you did everything I did?

jgold47 01-12-2013 07:01 PM

you guys were going to check and see what you used to have high beams and low beams on together. I dont have the PWM BIX line that Term does. You were going to see what your line was, my hypothosis is that this was a later feature than my 04.

TerminatorX5 01-12-2013 07:14 PM

I will go check, but the PWM_FL_BIX was in the LCM module... my car is october of 2005, i think (need to look in my own signature!!)... went from value 2 to value 1 - that info was not generally available, i even asked on the bmwcoding forum, and OOO (the guy that does the coding) suggested to try out the value 1, which i did...

I am still on hook to see if the AEs can operate as DRLs with engine running.

I will try different combinations of the available lines to see if any of them can produce the desired result...

I have a question on the E90 - I have an april 2011 E90 (335 ix, my wife is driving it), that has regular AEs... I saw same body style E90 (same headlight shape as mine) that had the new BMW bright AEs (not aftermarket, I've seen those), that are on the very new models ( i am still not too good with the new F designations)... checking the RealOEM did not produce different bulbs for the AE for E90 - does any of you know if the latest E90 have super bright Angel Eyes?

SlickGT1 01-12-2013 07:14 PM

Yea ill export the file from the LCM for you if I don't find the code line. Hold on, let me check my email.

SlickGT1 01-12-2013 07:16 PM

Term, code e90. I believe the brightness is set via coding on those.


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