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Nick P 01-09-2013 01:25 PM

@Bayerische E53 you can find more infos about the conversion in my older posts (there's also more pictures of the gearbox. Only 4 custom parts were made, nothing was moved, standard engine and TC mountings remained stock, dirveshafts and propshaft are also stock.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...manual-11.html

@ Green Dragon I can provide (manufacture) all the custom made parts for M62 powered X5 on request any time, I just don't think a development for such kit for N62-powered X5 would be logical due to the other possibilities, to get a V8 powered X5 with manual tranny in case of facelifted E53.

In case of M62 and NV125 there's just no way around exept for the one I went. In case on facelifted E53 there's already a strong GS6 gearbox avaliable from factory. In case of pre-facelift E53, the 5-speed is to weak to keep up with V8 power. So my advice would be to swap the engine and not the tranny, if we're talking about X5s with GS6 trannys.

Especially for USA a LSx sawp would be also interesting due to the avaliability of suitable trannys and TCs. Even it will need some fabrication of TC and engine mountings and front diff mounting as well, the result would be also great - that's the way I would suggest to go to the US people.

And even better - I would buy SRT-8 Jeep and put a manulal tranny in to it - T56 and suitable TC and immense power from the HEMI - that's the car I would play with, if I were living in US.

gruppeM3 01-10-2013 06:06 PM

F**K! That looks fun!

papasmurf 01-10-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick P (Post 915458)
I don't drive like this - that was just to make the video less boring.

I don't understand why you belived it was RWD for some time - it was always AWD since it's first drive as 6-speed manual...

Regarding the further manual tranny conversions - no one seems to be interested in this, the cars getting older and cheaper and peolple don't like to invest more money in E53.

The other thing the guy promised to give his 4.4 N62 X5 for manual conversion changed his mind (as I expected), and I obviously won't buy a car just for the conversion on my cost.

Nevertheless, after completing my 2 current projects - supercharger installation on to X5 and M60 powered Z3 Coupe, I'll sell my M5 E39 and will build an ultimate X5 E53, I've already have a plan and with God's help, by the end of 2013 I'll present my dream car.

How hard is it to convert?

SlickGT1 01-10-2013 09:42 PM

Search for his other posts. Recent ones. Awsome swap.

pink_roundel 01-10-2013 10:05 PM

I am very interested in this swap also. M62 with AWD 5 or 6 speed would be sweet. This auto slush box is the only weak point on this vehicle. I've kept it this long, a manual tranny in this X would make it a keeper for life.

Nick P 01-11-2013 11:33 AM

The car only did 2000 miles as 6-speed manual, before I can offer something concrete, I must test it porperly even with a bit more power, than stock engine delivers. For everyone, who's interested - I'll do an internet page with all infos about the conversion of M62-powered X5. But I need at least 6 oders to produce it, except I can find a solution or source, where I can cast the adapter housing for less money, than I got it offered so far. So, I'd try to find some connections in China, to keep the costs low, but the connecting shaft will be at least 700-800$ (actually rather more, if I'll do it form the actual source) and there's no way around - it must have a very high quality.

So everyone who's interested, the full kit will be about 3500$, if at least 6 kits will be ordered, going bigger numbers, the price will be lower. You also have to add the costs of an used gearbox, clutch, flywheel, hydraulics and some little stuff AND workshop labour. So in total a manual conversion of M62 powered X5s will cost about the same as Brembo BBK with 380 mm discs all around.

romeokc10 01-11-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DTMdan (Post 915503)
So awesome.

Wish it had Style 87s on it though :-/

Come on man, the guy spent untold man hours engineering and researching this project, not to mention the thousands of dollars he sunk into this project and you're worried about the type of wheels he has installed.:dunno: If you want to see an X with style 87 wheels just click on any lick on the site, probably 80% of us have them on our rides, if you've seen one, you've seen 'em all...lol!!:rofl::rofl: Nick P that is one fantastic engineering feat you pulled off, congratulations and good luck with your future projects!:thumbup:

Nick P 01-14-2013 06:45 AM

I've got contacted by a guy, who wanted a NV125 TC in his facelifted X5, because he had troubles with x-drive actuator, so another field of such a conversion would be a NV125 swap, bacause the housing of the GS5 (5 speed on pre-facelift) bolts directly on 6-speed RWD-only Getrag and the housings of GS6 on facelifted manual X5s are the same as on GS5 on pre-facelifted X5 with 5-speed manuals (it's logical due to the same engines).

A S62 (M5 E39 engine) swap in to any X5 (no matter facelift or pre-facelift) incl. gearbox is quite easy too, due the S62 has the same engine mountings as M62 and it's not difficult in terms of electronics.

Green Dragon 01-27-2013 02:51 AM

Nick,
I see that fabricated your own short throw shifter out of spare OE parts. I'm gonna pull my tranny this spring and maybe upgrade the clutch to a light weight fly wheel and the M5 clutch. (or if you have a good idea/suggestion of a good set up)I figured while I'm there, I'd rebuild my shift linkage bushings and such, but then I got to thinking about fabricating my own short throw shifter as one is not yet available (still waiting onUUC). Sometimes I feel like I'm rowing a toilet plunger in a toilet!

There are a couple of short throw shift rods on ebay (USA), that look like they would make a good candidate, as they are fairly cheap and seem to be close to the same O.E lengths. I know the rest of the linkages and selector rods are pretty specific the X5 e53.

Could I modify the existing hardware to take some of the throw out? You may not know the answers to these questions, but I'd figure I'd ask you since you made your own and seems like you have less throw. Thanks for any help or ideas.

Nick P 01-27-2013 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Dragon (Post 919160)
Nick,
I see that fabricated your own short throw shifter out of spare OE parts. I'm gonna pull my tranny this spring and maybe upgrade the clutch to a light weight fly wheel and the M5 clutch. (or if you have a good idea/suggestion of a good set up)I figured while I'm there, I'd rebuild my shift linkage bushings and such, but then I got to thinking about fabricating my own short throw shifter as one is not yet available (still waiting onUUC). Sometimes I feel like I'm rowing a toilet plunger in a toilet!

There are a couple of short throw shift rods on ebay (USA), that look like they would make a good candidate, as they are fairly cheap and seem to be close to the same O.E lengths. I know the rest of the linkages and selector rods are pretty specific the X5 e53.

Could I modify the existing hardware to take some of the throw out? You may not know the answers to these questions, but I'd figure I'd ask you since you made your own and seems like you have less throw. Thanks for any help or ideas.

Hi!

The principles of a short shifter are quite easy - you have to look for a OEM shift stick with more lenght beneath the bearing (the palstic/metall ball) and shorter stick above. The shifting arm and the rod will tolerate small lenght differences compared to stock lever. The only issue ist that the X5 lever in bent, otherwise you could use the 330i E46 lever.

The only possibility to modificate the standard shifting mechanism is to cut and weld, which I wouldn't do if there were any way around (in my case) if there were a finished solution I'd used it.

Here's the more gear lever focused video (I don't know, maybe the 3.0 shifting mechanism has the same throw, the throws on my X5 are shorter than stock M5 E39 and M3 E46 anyway):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaOSpcU0CQ


the throws seem to be shorter compared to X5 LM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tto4rk3YFDQ

Regarding the flywheel/clutch combo you can profit from the fact the M54 and S52 from US-M3 E36 are sharing the same crankshaft, so the aftermarket offers should cover your requests.

At-crankshaft with bearing shells, 11*21*0*007*262


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