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ninjabmw 03-17-2013 01:12 AM

SSS/DIS
 
So guys i got dis sss from that Romanian guy the problem is DIS works like everything is smooth when i try to erase a code i get this error about some er check some. The other problem is SSS when it tries to connect to zke3 it says you need a edic/icon to connect to my thing. INPA works perfect everything works so i am guessing i m doing everything fine. Any help would be appreciated ? I just need to fix my sss bc i need to program something.

TwinsPoppa 03-17-2013 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927279)
So guys i got dis sss from that Romanian guy the problem is DIS works like everything is smooth when i try to erase a code i get this error about some er check some. The other problem is SSS when it tries to connect to zke3 it says you need a edic/icon to connect to my thing. INPA works perfect everything works so i am guessing i m doing everything fine. Any help would be appreciated ? I just need to fix my sss bc i need to program something.

What DIS version do you have? IIRC, DIS v45 and higher cannot program/code only diagnose. Can it clear faults/codes though? I assumed not. Interesting.

I never got my SSS running (vmware version) and used with the DK (yellow) diagnostic head successfully. Supposedly "01 BMW_X5" was successful in getting it work though. Also, I think "rogerkiu" has SSS working but not sure if he uses the DK or the OPS head.

You can also check this thread.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...aptop-gt1.html

ninjabmw 03-17-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927283)
What DIS version do you have? IIRC, DIS v45 and higher cannot program/code only diagnose. Can it clear faults/codes though? I assumed not. Interesting.

I never got my SSS running (vmware version) and used with the DK (yellow) diagnostic head successfully. Supposedly "01 BMW_X5" was successful in getting it work though. Also, I think "rogerkiu" has SSS working but not sure if he uses the DK or the OPS head.

You can also check this thread.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...aptop-gt1.html

Ok to clarify things for you i got SSS running it is actually a very good program. I have DIS V57 so are u saying if go with DIS V44 i should be able to code with it. And yes dis 55 does let me read and clear codes. I have this weird problem with my x. The dsc light is on the 4x4 with the triangle it is giving me an error "Wipe blade 90 degree difference" cant figure out wat to do.

TwinsPoppa 03-17-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927351)
Ok to clarify things for you i got SSS running it is actually a very good program. I have DIS V57 so are u saying if go with DIS V44 i should be able to code with it. And yes dis 55 does let me read and clear codes. I have this weird problem with my x. The dsc light is on the 4x4 with the triangle it is giving me an error "Wipe blade 90 degree difference" cant figure out wat to do.

Okay, I've never used DIS v45 and higher but I was told those versions did NOT have program/coding capability. I just did not know that didn't mean it can't clear faults - as you have just indicated it can do.

Yes, DIS v44 and lower has coding/programming functions. I use DIS v43. For v45 and later, you have to use SSS(progman?) to code/program.

Okay, with the fault you should be able to run a test plan. Did your DIS v55/57? not have a test plan available? That doesn't sound right.

EDIT: To clarify, my posting about SSS was to inform you that I've never been able to successfully use SSS. One person indicated they were able to run it AND use the yellow diagnostic head to communicate/(assume program too) with the X. Also indicated another member has the GT1 but I don't know if he is successful and even don't know which diagnostic head he uses with SSS. I'm interested in knowing if BOTH can work or if only one was designed to be used for SSS. I don't know the answer.

Can you tell us what diagnostic head you use to connect to the X? Is it the yellow (DK), orange (OPS) or something else totally.

tmv 03-18-2013 09:17 AM

Try your question here Diagnostic Software

ninjabmw 03-18-2013 12:31 PM

I am using and obd2 cable from ebay i bout it from an ebay seller for $30. It is one cable that work with everything the programs came preloaded no installation what so ever just straight up unpack and open. As you said test plan, i tried running it, i tried reprogramming the steering angle sensor with no luck, sometimes the error pops in in dsc sometimes in LWS. I just have 1 cable working for everything and everything works perfectly fine anyone needing help i can teamviewer and set up if necessary.

TwinsPoppa 03-18-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927461)
I am using and obd2 cable from ebay i bout it from an ebay seller for $30. It is one cable that work with everything the programs came preloaded no installation what so ever just straight up unpack and open. As you said test plan, i tried running it, i tried reprogramming the steering angle sensor with no luck, sometimes the error pops in in dsc sometimes in LWS. I just have 1 cable working for everything and everything works perfectly fine anyone needing help i can teamviewer and set up if necessary.

Would you mind posting a pic of your OBD2 cable?

Well, if the steering angle sensor can't be recalibrated (which is what I assume you were trying to do) then its probably bad and needs replacement. What did the error say when you tried recalibrating? Are you replacing the steering angle sensor or recalibrating?

Have you double-checked the wheel sensors? I assume the GT1 would have picked it up with the short test but can't hurt to check manually through the module functions.

ninjabmw 03-18-2013 09:12 PM

Here is a picture of the obd head.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BMW-USB-OBD-D...8o!~~60_12.JPG



The error just kept coming back even if i delete them.

TwinsPoppa 03-18-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927560)
Here is a picture of the obd head.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BMW-USB-OBD-D...8o!~~60_12.JPG



The error just kept coming back even if i delete them.

I see. You don't use the diagnostic heads at all - just straight to the OBD2 port with USB to the laptop I assume.

So, the error that keeps coming back when you delete. That's the error causing the 4x4 (DSC/xdrive) error? Can you take a pic of the DIS screen where you can see the fault. Also, a pic of the short test result where it shows the symptoms.

I'll try and see what I can find in the control modules section even though mine is a different version of DIS.

ninjabmw 03-18-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927564)
I see. You don't use the diagnostic heads at all - just straight to the OBD2 port with USB to the laptop I assume.

So, the error that keeps coming back when you delete. That's the error causing the 4x4 (DSC/xdrive) error? Can you take a pic of the DIS screen where you can see the fault. Also, a pic of the short test result where it shows the symptoms.

I'll try and see what I can find in the control modules section even though mine is a different version of DIS.


well yes i can just to tell you when i first got into DIS the error was coming up in the DSC module but after i deleted it, it started coming from LWS(Steering angle sensor). This week i will try to hook up my computer because i dont use a laptop to the thing and take pictures for you. Thank you for your helpful tips i will keep it updated once i have picture

TwinsPoppa 03-18-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927579)
well yes i can just to tell you when i first got into DIS the error was coming up in the DSC module but after i deleted it, it started coming from LWS(Steering angle sensor). This week i will try to hook up my computer because i dont use a laptop to the thing and take pictures for you. Thank you for your helpful tips i will keep it updated once i have picture

You didn't happen to do any of these recently did you(see pic below)? Its a list of events that require the steering angle sensor to be re-calibrated.

If you can't recalibrate it then it probably needs replacement. I would still like to see those screenshots though.

http://thumbnails9.imagebam.com/3109/a300fe31085343.gif

ninjabmw 03-18-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927581)
You didn't happen to do any of these recently did you(see pic below)? Its a list of events that require the steering angle sensor to be re-calibrated.

If you can't recalibrate it then it probably needs replacement. I would still like to see those screenshots though.

http://thumbnails9.imagebam.com/3109/a300fe31085343.gif

i changed the lower control arms and i think i need a recalibrate it i tried to do it i remember seeing a screen like that in SSS where it said that LWS needs to be recalibrate it if any of this happen.

TwinsPoppa 03-18-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927588)
i changed the lower control arms and i think i need a recalibrate it i tried to do it i remember seeing a screen like that in SSS where it said that LWS needs to be recalibrate it if any of this happen.

Have you confirmed that SSS is running properly by using it to code/program anything yet?

I would think if you didn't touch the sensor then it should not be bad and you should be able to recalibrate it.

ninjabmw 03-18-2013 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927590)
Have you confirmed that SSS is running properly by using it to code/program anything yet?

I would think if you didn't touch the sensor then it should not be bad and you should be able to recalibrate it.


just to make sure i recoded the dsc module and i think i can confirm it works bc when i did it the abs brake tire pressure lights come on and in few seconds disappeared but the dsc light still stayed on!!!

TwinsPoppa 03-18-2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927593)
just to make sure i recoded the dsc module and i think i can confirm it works bc when i did it the abs brake tire pressure lights come on and in few seconds disappeared but the dsc light still stayed on!!!

Well, I would confirm it by doing something simple like the key memory or the car memory options. Let me dig something up for you.

Here you go. Go to the first post, towards the bottom, on this thread.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...aptop-gt1.html

You should see this below. Try one of these two simple items to confirm SSS is fine. Just click on the link and it will go to the DIY.

DIY - Encoding:
Automatic Locking After Starting Off
Daytime Driving Light (DRL)

EDIT: Oops! I forgot you use SSS not DIS for programming. :stickpoke :rofl:
Sorry about that. Anyways, you get the idea. You can do the same items in SSS. Those two should be simple to do in SSS I would think.

ninjabmw 03-18-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927595)
Well, I would confirm it by doing something simple like the key memory or the car memory options. Let me dig something up for you.

Here you go. Go to the first post, towards the bottom, on this thread.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...aptop-gt1.html

You should see this below. Try one of these two simple items to confirm SSS is fine. Just click on the link and it will go to the DIY.

DIY - Encoding:
Automatic Locking After Starting Off
Daytime Driving Light (DRL)

Ye this version of DIS is more simple then the SSS is more in depth when you connect to the car it automatically brings up all the modules that the car has i know 100% the programming works because i reprogrammed a cluster and the trip odometer went from 500 to 0.

TwinsPoppa 03-19-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927597)
Ye this version of DIS is more simple then the SSS is more in depth when you connect to the car it automatically brings up all the modules that the car has i know 100% the programming works because i reprogrammed a cluster and the trip odometer went from 500 to 0.

Then I'm not sure why you are having problems with calibrating the steering angle sensor.

And you're sure you're not getting any faults with any of the wheel sensors?

Also, you mentioned a DSC fault. Do you have a screenshot of that exact fault? I ask because I had a fault in the DSC show up and, at first, I thought it was the module. However, upon further investigation it was a yaw sensor.

ninjabmw 03-19-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927598)
Then I'm not sure why you are having problems with calibrating the steering angle sensor.

And you're sure you're not getting any faults with any of the wheel sensors?

Also, you mentioned a DSC fault. Do you have a screenshot of that exact fault? I ask because I had a fault in the DSC show up and, at first, I thought it was the module. However, upon further investigation it was a yaw sensor.

yes it first showed up a dsc fault after i deleted it and come under LWS when i did a test plan it was mentioning about terminal 30. Unfortunately i did not take any pictures this weekend hopefully i will take some and upload to keep you updated about the process and how i m doing it.

TwinsPoppa 03-19-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927607)
yes it first showed up a dsc fault after i deleted it and come under LWS when i did a test plan it was mentioning about terminal 30. Unfortunately i did not take any pictures this weekend hopefully i will take some and upload to keep you updated about the process and how i m doing it.

I think its looking for enough voltage at Terminal 30 or there isn't any voltage at Terminal 30.

Terminal 15 is the ignition and, IIRC in my version of DIS, if the battery is low it won't allow connection or encoding/programming.

I don't know what Terminal 30 refers to. Might want to research that.

ninjabmw 03-19-2013 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 927611)
I think its looking for enough voltage at Terminal 30 or there isn't any voltage at Terminal 30.

Terminal 15 is the ignition and, IIRC in my version of DIS, if the battery is low it won't allow connection or encoding/programming.

I don't know what Terminal 30 refers to. Might want to research that.


Terminal 30 refers to the connection to the steering angle sensor (LWS) it says that sometimes the connection is bad and sometimes it says that WIPER BLADE 90 DEGREE DIFFERENCE i will try this weekend with some pictures to see what happens.

TwinsPoppa 03-21-2013 12:00 PM

Here are two screenshots in DIS v43. Notice the different options depending on which module/section you go. I don't know if these screenshots will help.

In SSS are there similar screens? Which option are you selecting when you get the 90 degree wipe fault?

I don't have an X to connect to further look into what these options do. Also, I'm about to ship it out so I won't have access to the GT1.

http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/24...1244620272.jpg http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/24...d244620291.jpg

ninjabmw 03-21-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 928179)
Here are two screenshots in DIS v43. Notice the different options depending on which module/section you go. I don't know if these screenshots will help.

In SSS are there similar screens? Which option are you selecting when you get the 90 degree wipe fault?

I don't have an X to connect to further look into what these options do. Also, I'm about to ship it out so I won't have access to the GT1.

http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/24...1244620272.jpg http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/24...d244620291.jpg

The screens you showed me i did that in dis wheni was using it i got that error in dis when you do a quick test it poped in LWS(steering angle sensor). I did a test plan followed the procedures come up nothing, in SSS it just connects to modules in the car and so i click on LWS and then it comes up with 2 options replacement and encode i tried both of those none of them did anything. The light is still up but i remember a year or two ago when i called up a guy to diagnose my car he turned the light off but then when i drove it the light come back after like a half a mile.

TwinsPoppa 04-02-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjabmw (Post 927626)
Terminal 30 refers to the connection to the steering angle sensor (LWS) it says that sometimes the connection is bad and sometimes it says that WIPER BLADE 90 DEGREE DIFFERENCE i will try this weekend with some pictures to see what happens.

I assume you still have the DSC/Xdrive fault on your dash.

It seems to me since you're having problems calibrating/connecting to the steering angle sensor that is probably the culprit.

Let us know if there are any changes to your situation.


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