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puddinboo 04-21-2014 10:13 PM

I`m in the same boat now. just bypass the the valve and install catch can or is there something I`m missing?

Green Dragon 04-22-2014 02:04 AM

I will get in touch with G.A.S. to see whats going on with their Serviceable CCV kit beta test. I have not heard from them in a while. I see if I can put some heat under them to move on the project. When I spoke to Gary during the winter, he acknowledged that they were behind the eight-ball on the project. I will update this soon.

As far as a catch-can project, there is a multitude of information on other forums. Spend some time reading. If you want to give it a shot, don't go with a catch can that vents to atmosphere. With the M54, it been reported this can cause ring flutter. It must be closed system so that pressures/vacuums are balanced. If it wasn't for the German Auto Solutions kit possibly near completion, I would have implemented a catch-can already.

puddinboo 04-22-2014 08:05 AM

thx for the reply greendragon, I see some catch cans around that have 2 lines going to top of catch can and a clear hose along side of it so you can tell how much oil it is collecting. I was wondering if you need some type of small pcv attached to it. like the older chevs had on top of the valve covers?

Riggodeaux 04-22-2014 09:55 AM

GD, thanks for following up with G.A.S. I'm not having CCV trouble [replacement done before I bought mine], but am ready to go on this as a preventive measure, given the M54s' history on this issue.

Ricky Bobby 04-22-2014 10:20 AM

Guys I wish Doru would chime in here.

He basically talked to Gary over the winter and knows why it is such an undertaking as far as ring flutter and such goes with vaccuum in the crankcase of the M54, which is why the G.A.S. solution to the CCV is taking much longer than most anticipated.

I hope he sees the thread because he explained it all to me over the winter and I don't have the old message.

beamertruck 04-22-2014 11:51 AM

I havnt had any real issues with the CCV (until this winter, i just cleaned the valves, still gotta find time to replace em).

bcredliner 04-22-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 973860)
I'm going to have the Supercharger serviced in ~15k more miles. At that time I plan to switch to the ProVent.



Don't think of it as hacking up hoses but rather adapting them to hoses that fit the ProVent. In any case, this shouldn't be used to band-aid an underlying problem. The PCV system and crankcase pressures I have are a little different, but maybe this could help you guys. What's nice is that it keeps the system as it was meant to be, while incorporating good stuff like filtering medium and a safety valve.

Will your results from the addition of the ProVent differ from 'normal' engine applications?

puddinboo 05-10-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acpstunts (Post 973715)
I have one in the e46 (m54) and will be installing the same one/setup on the e53 (m54). This diagram is exactly what I followed and works amazing. My 330 was loosing oil. That ALL stopped once this was installed. Also the frequency you have to empty it, is not often. Actually I have yet to empty the one in the e46 since there isnt anything really to empty.
http://www.diymybmw.com/e46/wp-conte...df02d20b32.jpg

Link to tank I'm using: Godspeed Universal Racing Oil Catch Can Tank Oil Reservoir Tank Silver Color : Amazon.com : Automotive

I bought some heavier duty hose (nothing crazy) and again its been working great.

BTW you do NOT want a vented catch tank. Our motors must maintain crankcase vacuum

if I use the above catch can method I shouldn`t get any piston ring flutter is that right?

Ricky Bobby 05-10-2014 12:36 PM

Looks like a good setup, now I am debating getting a catch can, hose and a couple fittings from this company and having a serviceable setup as opposed to the cold weather kit on my workbench.

Oil Catch Cans

I don't think you'd have ring flutter, as basically the catch can is replacing the CCV and you aren't introducing more vaccuum in the crankcase since having the catch can is keeping it a closed design.

This catch can really looks amazing, and totally serviceable:

Ultimate Oil Catch Can

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/assets...timatecc04.jpg

puddinboo 05-10-2014 01:01 PM

I had my ccv fail this winter so I have to do something about it before next winter, and I think the oil catch can would be fail proof.
those catch cans look awsome by the way, expensive compared to other catch cans out there.


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