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jaima 06-17-2014 03:27 PM

heeeelp keys locked in boot/trunk
 
Hi,
I only got a single key with the X5 (E53) 3 years ago (used car)
I have locked my keys in the trunk, I can see them through
the window, I tried a metal coat hanger through the weather
seals in the trunk all that has done is ruin the seals and I`m
still locked out, I dont want to break any windows as the
scrap yards in the UK rip the the ass out of X5 owners i
was quoted £150 plus postage about $270 U.S

Is there any way in to the car without further damage?
I read there is a way but people dont want to put it on
an open board? if so, could someone please pm details
of how to do it???

Thanks very much
Jaima.

TiAgX5 06-17-2014 03:33 PM

I've been on E46 & E53 forums for over 10yrs, haven't EVER heard of an alternate way into them. Good idea is to put the valet key in a mag case and attach to chassis, little late for that now.

jaima 06-17-2014 03:48 PM

yeah, it was stupid of me I wasn't thinking at the time
I believe it has something to do with the rear part the
badge is attached to? dont know though?
It looks like breaking a window and get one when money
aint so tight (unemployed at the mo)

LeiZ 06-17-2014 04:05 PM

I believe there is an article either on this forum or somewhere else. It's you put a thin metal hook into the door close to the handle, reach that position and unlock the leash. I think the original article was related to a winter frozen door handle or something. Google it. Best of luck!


Quote:

Originally Posted by jaima (Post 998426)
Hi,
I only got a single key with the X5 (E53) 3 years ago (used car)
I have locked my keys in the trunk, I can see them through
the window, I tried a metal coat hanger through the weather
seals in the trunk all that has done is ruin the seals and I`m
still locked out, I dont want to break any windows as the
scrap yards in the UK rip the the ass out of X5 owners i
was quoted £150 plus postage about $270 U.S

Is there any way in to the car without further damage?
I read there is a way but people dont want to put it on
an open board? if so, could someone please pm details
of how to do it???

Thanks very much
Jaima.


TiAgX5 06-17-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeiZ (Post 998436)
I believe there is an article either on this forum or somewhere else. It's you put a thin metal hook into the door close to the handle, reach that position and unlock the leash. I think the original article was related to a winter frozen door handle or something. Google it. Best of luck!

If it's a "slim jim" process, a good local locksmith should know it. I've heard from several BMW owners (TX and FL) that locksmiths have told them "slim jim" DON'T work on BMWs.

bcredliner 06-17-2014 04:15 PM

We have member that can help via private message. See in following thread.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-out-help.html

cn90 06-17-2014 04:27 PM

A key w/o remote feature is about $45 in the US...

jaima 06-17-2014 05:22 PM

Thanks very much for all the replies I appreciate all
the input !!!
I have done as suggested by "bcredliner" and have
pm`d ucrew, I will wait and see what ucrew says to do?


Thank you all once again guys
Regards
Jaima

upallnight 06-17-2014 06:15 PM

You need to get a long metal rod and open up the door enough to hit the door unlock switch on the center console. Either that or call a mobile glass service and have them remove the front windshield and reinstall the front windshield.

Porando 06-17-2014 06:57 PM

I have locked my keys couple times but I always have a second key at home to open doors. One time wife locked herself out in town in e39 and road service guy opened door in few seconds using "slim jim"

Qsilver7 06-17-2014 07:55 PM

If the vehicle is double-locked (locked with the remote key or by sticking the key manually in the exterior door lock cylinder)...you can't just press the central unlock button to open the vehicle. You have to press it, then pull twice on an interior door handle.

And this only works for BMWs that are 2000 MY-up. Before that...if the vehicle is double-locked...there's no way to open the door without another key or breaking a window and crawling in/out over the broken glass.

The info below applies to the e38/e39/e53:


puddinboo 06-17-2014 10:09 PM

how about going to dealership ,give VIN + proof of ownership and just get a valet key that should work shouldn`t it?

Qsilver7 06-17-2014 11:19 PM

Ditto...but BMW has changed the name & part nbr...it's now called the "door & ignition" key (BMW part nbr 51217127047 10/2003- up build date or 51218236594 9/1999-10/2003).

You can also get a non remote spare key that cost about the same (approx $40 - $75 depending on dealer pricing). Overall buying a non remote key is usually cheaper than a repair bill for a broken window & other damaged trim trying to break into the vehicle.

#2 is the D&I (valet key) & #3 is the non remote spare key:


TiAgX5 06-17-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddinboo (Post 998482)
how about going to dealership ,give VIN + proof of ownership and just get a valet key that should work shouldn`t it?

This takes anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks. Don't think OP is willing to wait.

Qsilver7 06-17-2014 11:57 PM

Try 2-3 days :)

TiAgX5 06-18-2014 12:40 AM

I was on E46 forums around 6 yrs ago, a few members waited weeks.

upallnight 06-18-2014 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 998469)
If the vehicle is double-locked (locked with the remote key or by sticking the key manually in the exterior door lock cylinder)...you can't just press the central unlock button to open the vehicle. You have to press it, then pull twice on an interior door handle.

Since the keys are in the boot obviously he didn't use the key or remote to lock the X

Qsilver7 06-18-2014 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 998500)
Since the keys are in the boot obviously he didn't use the key or remote to lock the X

Yes, it is still entirely possible. You can lock the vehicle (putting it in double lock), then come back and open the tailgate (only) using the tailgate/trunk release button and the doors will remain in double lock. You then set the key down inside the boot/trunk, then close the tailgate/trunk...you have now locked your key inside the trunk/boot/cargo area and the vehicle is in double lock mode. :yikes:

Qsilver7 06-18-2014 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 998495)
I was on E46 forums around 6 yrs ago, a few members waited weeks.

That wasn't my experience when I ordered a spare key for my e39 540iT back in 2008. But it may take longer to arrive based on how far you are from BMW NA headquarters...3-5 days perhaps...but it still shouldn't take weeks. :)

That was a private owner purchase & it came with only 1 key. The FIRST thing I purchased after driving it back home was to go straight to the dealership to order a spare key. I ordered the key on a Thursday afternoon, and had it by Monday of the next week. If I had ordered the key in the morning, it would have come in Saturday. But since it was ordered in the afternoon...I also had to deal with the no delivery on Sunday.

The keys come from New Jersey (BMW NA head quarters)...not Germany. I've also order stuff from the Euro side of the database and that stuff has taken about a week to get here.


jaima 06-18-2014 08:17 AM

Update:
I have pm`d Ucrew and another member for the info
on how to get into the X5 without breaking any windows.
I have also ordered a plastic valet key on *bay for only
£5.99 roughly $10 U.S, I will post if this works or not
once I receive it probably 2 days as it`s afternoon in
Sunny Glasgow? here`s hoping?

I Thank everyone for all you`re input it is very knowledgeable
and truly appreciated !!!

My best regards to everyone :thumbup:
Jaima

jaima 06-18-2014 09:34 AM

Update 2:
Turns out it a blank key only and I would need the
Key code to have it cut for the X5...bummer

LeiZ 06-18-2014 10:16 AM

Time to give local dealer a call.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaima (Post 998538)
Update 2:
Turns out it a blank key only and I would need the
Key code to have it cut for the X5...bummer


jaima 06-18-2014 12:00 PM

Bit the bullet and.....
Ordered a key from the dealer, will take a day or 2 because of an
afternoon order they will text my mobile/cell when the key is ready
for collection.
Price is just under £39...$66 U.S... it is a metal key and will open the
door the guy said it will also start the engine and if alarmed it would
stop once the engine is started?
All in all seems like a quite a good deal the guy gave me but I will
reserve judgment until I get the key and try it out?

Once again I thank everyone for their input
My very best regards to all !!!

Qsilver7 06-18-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaima (Post 998570)
Bit the bullet and ... it is a metal key and will open the door ... also start the engine and if alarmed it would
stop once the engine is started?

Actually, since the key can start the car...it means that it has the EWS chip. Thus when you unlock the door with the key...the DWA (anti-theft alarm siren system) will be deactivated because it allows for opening with a key (manually) from the door lock cylinder, or with the remote key.

With your new key, it will be just like 2 people with a key to your vehicle...when one LOCKS the vehicle with their key...and the other person comes back and UNLOCKS the vehicle. The alarm doesn't go off. :)

When you get the new key, when you unlock the door, take a look at the DWA status LED below the interior rear view mirror. If it turns off and doesn't blink, then DWA (the alarm) has been deactivated and you shouldn't have to go thru the "emergency alarm disarm" by quickly inserting the key into the ignition. :)


jaima 06-18-2014 07:15 PM

thanks for the info Qsilver7 that`s handy to know,
didn't know about the panic alarm mate
Thanks again

Qsilver7 06-18-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaima (Post 998630)
thanks for the info Qsilver7 that`s handy to know,
didn't know about the panic alarm mate
Thanks again

Hope everything works out okay for you. :) Yep...pressing & holding the boot/tailgate release button on the FZV (remote) key will initiate the alarm:


jaima 06-21-2014 08:35 AM

Got the key today but it wont open the door :(
I had a look at the original key lying in the boot/trunk and the grooves
are worn down a hell of a lot compared to the new key.
Absolutely p*ssed off now with this now, I called BMW and they said it looks
like the only way is to retrieve the original key is by "Smashing a window"
I will need to source a window from a scrap yard first before I smash one
as the weather in Scotland is dire at times, in hindsight should have smashed
a window rather than buying a new key now it will be twice the cost.

Qsilver7 06-21-2014 10:20 AM

First, I'd double-check my VIIN (look at the MFG label on the driver's door jamb or other VIN locations: windshield-lower dash, right strut tower in engine bay, behind the rear license plate, etc)...then check the paperwork from the dealer to make sure the correct VIN was used to order the key (mistakes in data entry can happen). There is a reason why some ALPHA characters are NOT used in the last 7 digits (the "serial number" part) of the VINs on vehicles for the USA market (I,O,Q,U,Z for example)...and that's because they can be confused with numerical digits or other alpha characters. :(

Do you have any lubricant or penetrating oil with a small straw that you can insert inito your drivers door lock cylinder? If the lock isn't used manually, it may just need some lubrication.

Also try to methodically work the door lock cylinder...perhaps adjusting the depth of insertion etc.

BTW, is this a right hand or left hand drive X5 (I forget which side of the road they drive on in your country)...but for us LHD folks...the image below shows the electronic & manual lock/unlock positions:

http://www.bimmerboard.com/members/q...0Positions.jpg

(my "go to" lubricant for keeping my door lock cylinders lubricated and maintained is Tri-Flow...it contains TEFLON which helps prevent dust & grime from building up and turning into hardened crud...as well as helps to prevent two surfaces from binding)...and helps water to run off any surfaces that have been coated)

http://www.bimmerboard.com/members/q...Lubricants.jpg

Qsilver7 06-21-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaima (Post 998921)
....the only way is to retrieve the original key is by "Smashing a window"...

I truly hope it doesn't come to this...but if it does...remember that if you originally locked the vehicle with the key, then came back and unlocked the tailgate to get something, then closed the tailgate...the vehicle is still DOUBLE-LOCKED...and if you smash a window to try & unlock/open a door.....you will need to follow a SPECIFIC procedure that was mentioned previously in this thread (post #11):
  1. press the central lock/unlock button on the center console
  2. then pull TWICE on one of the door handles

If you don't follow the procedure above, the interior door handles will not operate like normal....and also be prepared for the alarm siren to sound off from two sources...the IMS (interior motion sensor) and//or from the emergency UNLOCK procedure (from the steps mentioned above).

To silence the alarm,you will need to INSERT the key into the ignition and turn it to position 1, 2, or start the engine. The alarm only stops when the key's EWS (individual serial number) is recognized as a valid key.

puddinboo 06-21-2014 12:29 PM

I think I would rather replace the drivers door lock cylinder myself. I would drill the cylinder out and then get a phillips screw driver to unlock the door cheaper the replacing a window. IMO :)

jaima 06-21-2014 02:31 PM

Qsilver7, Sorry I didnt get back sooner, it`s a RHDrive and the vin matches
the receipt LM52*** I sprayed WD40 straight in the door lock a couple
of times left it for a few hours tried turning the key whilst slowly moving
it in and out (no difference not budging either way) maybe the door lock tumblers have worn along with the original key?

I was told to pm UCrewX5 that he knows a way of getting the doors unlocked
without having to smash any window(s) but the guy never got back to me?
apparently he only gives the details via pm(s)
link: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-out-help.html

Do you know which side the starter motor is on with RHD models? I think
it might have something to do with that?

Thanks for all you help Qsilver7 I really appreciate all the input:thumbup:

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jaima 06-30-2014 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarryDirk (Post 999961)
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upallnight 06-30-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaima (Post 1000066)
WTF are you on :dunno: stay out of forums if you are going to spout crap! :nanana:

Don't encourage him.

TiAgX5 06-30-2014 10:27 PM

"Bodies do not get time to booty a blow for a while"?

Sounds like a case of "blue balls".


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