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xdrive 12-05-2006 05:51 AM

E70 4.8i X5 vs the new Cayenne S
 
The new Cayenne S will have 385hp as opposed to 350hp in the E70. Since the price of these two vehicles is similar, anyone here would consider the new Cayenne S over the 4.8i X5?

LeMansX5 12-05-2006 06:47 AM

No, because Cayenne still looks ugly.

bkran10 12-05-2006 07:15 AM

Amen brother.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
No, because Cayenne still looks ugly.


Wagner 12-05-2006 07:33 AM

The old Pepper S had more HP then the 4.4 E53 and the X5 was still quicker. The Pepper ride needs the snails to be quick.

motordavid 12-05-2006 09:02 AM

xdrive,
A lil' biased here, as I think the BMW is the "better" car, esp. the
E53 "look", but not sure too many are gonna chase an advertised
30+ hp difference as the main basis of a $70G+, 2 1/2 ton, suv
to drive the streets and highways in...

If one "likes" the Pepper better, for any reason(s), go get it,
but I suspect the cross shopping and, especially the cross
buying, is in the few thousand per year.

I'm always curious as to why one would care what the "group"
thinks about a large, depreciating asset purchase. Buy whatcha
want; that hp diff will probably be "corrected" in a later E70 version,
but I don't think the average buyer will notice or care.
GL,mD

LVR 12-05-2006 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5
No, because Cayenne still looks ugly.

Having spent some time in one recently, I am willing to overlook some of its' styling miscues for the user friendly thought that has gone in to many features that you use every day.

For example, we live in a hot climate where it can be over 110 degrees for days on end, and there are only small A/c vents in the rear of the E53 for our son, whereas the Cayenne also has the pillar mounted vents (as just now intro'd on the E70)

The telephone usage and nav/stereo use was so straight forward you've gotta wonder what drugs the people who design our nav/idrive are on....

We are actually considering replacing both our E53's with a couple of Cayennes as they offer the space we want, the features etc....

More body roll than the E53, but as the BMW people say when their products aren't up to scratch "Handling is subjective" so we are testing the Cayennes quite a bit.

Denalio 12-05-2006 11:26 AM

I thought Porche anounced that there would be no new 2007 version this year and they were going to refresh for 2008.

King 12-05-2006 12:05 PM

Not sure if I agree on the Cayenne being more spacious. The trunk is definately smaller than the X5's. I could barely fit the baby stroller in the Cayenne while it easily fit in the X5.

I recently transfered a set of 4 19" wheels & tires from one into the other. While I could easily fit all four in the X5 standing up, I could barely fit three in the Cayenne and we had to put the seats down to get the fourth in there!

The Cayenne definately feels heavier (which it is) and almost feels like you're pulling a boat. The X5 is a lot more responsive to the pedal. Almost too responsive at times. I have a hard time taking off smoothly sometimes with the family in there...it just wants to launch all the time. The Cayenne needs the extra horsepower just to get it going. While 0-60 is neck to neck with the S, the X5 feels quicker.

The Turbo would be the only Cayenne I would ever consider and even then I would have to get over that bloated bubble Porsche styling...

sirees01 12-05-2006 02:28 PM

here's my thoughts.

I have owned 3 x X5's within the last 5 years & 1 Cayenne Turbo.
The first two X5's were 3.0sports, the third (current ride 3.0diesel sport)

The CT without question was the best ride we have ever had, hands down.
However it was shockingly expensive to run & maintain & we bailed out and got into the X5 diesel.

14 months later we are missing the Cayenne a lot, enough to even put up with the running costs.

The new facelift Cayenne looks better in my eyes & with improved HP I would consider the S variant.

I have a 1K deposit on the 07 X5 due in April/May but after seeing yesterdays Cayenne press release, I am now considering going back to the Porsche group.

Air Suspension is a must though, the ride without it is god damn awful.

BTW: I feel there's too much black plastic going on with the X5 exterior.

LeMansX5 12-05-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sirees01
BTW: I feel there's too much black plastic going on with the X5 exterior.

Wait for the X5 M-sport package in summer 2007 which gets rid of black plastic.


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