Software Updated !
 

I just returned from dealer with the new Progman V25 software and I can confirm the following:

Different background color, no color in the main menu for the four main choices, only the colored arrows pointing towards them remain, you can search by distance or by name of a restuarant, the screen will now go back to the last one used instead of always deafaulting to the main menu screen. Further changes:

- The iDrive including NAV appears to react much faster! http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/ima...lies/thumb.gif
- In split display modes, the smaller right one is able to automatically change from map/perspective view to the arrow view when you approach an intersection and goes back to the map/perspective afterwards
- A few new layouts

And other changes in icons.
Nav is a lot sharper and the white line indication guidance on the map is now much thicker and much more apparent.

AND I CAN ALSO CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE POIS by NAME !!! ( Hooray ! )

I will post pics on Thursday when I get a chance.

did u have to complain to get them to update the Idrive software?

Im confused...do you have your car back or not? Have you personally confirmed these features?

Just a suggestion, you might want to consider keeping this all in one thread rather than a new thread every day. "I Drive Update", Software updated !", etc.

Thanks for the update and info. I really look forward to hearing and seeing more!

Im sorry....typo...yes I HAVE RETURNED....and I do have the above.
I will keep all news on this thread now.

I just mentioned that I had the "pop up arrow" prob ( which I did ! ) and they referred to the bulletin that was posted on this forum and did the update !

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B846106g.htm

Try it your self and you may well experience the same prob....remember to choose a destination,start guidance, choose map for your main screen and then say onboard info or trip computer for small assistance window.
If the voice guidance is turned off ( because she is annoying and you dont want her to interrupt your fav song ) then the assistance window ought to pop up with the arrow for route guidance at an intersection say automatically and then disappear after you have followed it....voila....the pop up doesnt appear ( UNLESS OF COURSE YOU CHOOSE ARROW DISPLAY IN THE ASSISTANCE WINDOW....but some of us like to have teh onboard info there.....hope thats clear )

Is the startup any faster (once you enter the car until you can use the Idrive)?

Does the rear camera dissapear any faster?

what are the new layouts?

thanks!!

I drive def loads faster after ignition.
Rear Camera does seem to respond quicker and switch off same.

I will post pics and a detailed analysis on Thur...sorry

is the brightness setting changeed? in my car, it always go back to middle after a while.
and did u just went in to get it updated and how long did it took? thanks

Did RTTI get truned on? In mine the option is not there, since I drive to the US from time to time it would be nice to have.

I'm getting my software updated to progman 25 too. From what I understand there are 2 versions of 25; the first one screwed up RTTI and the second one fixed it.

No...no RTTI for us Canadians..pics tomorrow

I also understand V25 screwed up RTTI, there has been 2 updates since and the latest version is at least V25.2 which fixes the problem.

Looking forward to the pics!! Maybe I can use my backup camera's improper color portrayal as a reason to upgrade!
:thumbup:

So here we go:
You will see the I drive main menu much sharper in my opinion
The icons are different in the menus
It is MUCH MUCH FASTER in response everywhere and in all transitions
You can now search by POI's as illustrated
The white line indicating guidance is now THICKER and more obvious
The resolution of maps is much better.
Other than this the pop up arrow issue IS addressed and is fine now ( which is why I got the update )


Any questions ..let me know and I will do my best to answer:

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Thanks for the update!!
You mentioned in an earlier post "a few new layouts", can you show us those?

The search for POI looks a bit awkward...is it easy to search, or do you have to dig deep into menus?

Do you use Bluetooth? Have you noticed any improvements?

Thanks again...BTW is it Thursday already in Canada:)

EDIT:
One more question-
What is your build date?

Thanks for the update, nice to know my April build X5 will have those feautures and graphics. Why are the ventilation and seat heater settings duplicated (already controlled by dash controls) in I-Drive or is it not duplication.

Yeah..was excited to share the pics....My phones in for repair so havent had a chance to check if any better.....the search for POI is very easy....information - -on location/destination --choose the required info so business/restaurant etc and then the search screen comes up for you to search by name or just search.
I meant the main menu for Idrive for layout change, and its not very significant but the look of ALL pages is different, a little colour change, some background pattern...not really worth putting up.
Hope that helps !

By the way...I think you mentioned DS mode was awesome fun on your car.....I experienced the same today....just 300kms to break in and I wanted to push it a little....amazing fun !

Yes, funny thing is the dealer never told me about it...once I discovered it it was like I had a new car.

btw- when was your x manufactured?

Feb '07....why??

I heard on another board that some are not seeing any speed improvements w/ the update...and they are speculating hardware differences might be the cause. My build is Nov 06...so hopefully we have the same hardware and I see the same speed improvements too.

BTW-
How long did the update take?
did you have anything else done?

how long did the update take?

Update took around 5 hours.....nothing else done other than adjust a seal on the drivers door.

wow!

330i2X5...what part of Canada are you in?

ontario

so this update is only for people who have Navi in there E70?

I had the update too when the replaced my shift module. It seems a bit quicker, but aside from that I do not see too many significant improvements just differences.

does it solove the problem where the brightness setting reset itself after a while?

POI search is a major impronement.
What is the shift module? why did they replace it?

I couldn't tell you exactly what it is, but I complained because the transmission seems to get lost and not know when to shift. It hangs going up hills and somethings flutters when I want a medium downshift. It reminded me of the tranny on my old Ford Taurus SHO right before it failed. My dealer spent time with BMW tech doing all kinds of tests and the shift module was the only thing acting up.

I don't have any know issues with my navigation but I just scheduled an appointment to get the newer version since it is covered under the warranty.

With the software update, did you lose all of your preferences/settings, such as locking system and presets on the audio?

Not all...but lost audio/eq settings and some settings

Up here in Canada my dealer says the most recent update they have is v25. Can any Canadians confirm which update version they received? I thought there was a v25.1 & 25.2??

no RTTI in canada, 25.2 onli fixes RTTI problem in 25.0, that would be my guess

Service Dept just told me I have V 25 now....so I wouldnt worry which version you get because RTTI is not provisioned for us anyway :(

Took the car in for the upgrade. They kept it for three days in part waiting for a latch to be replaced per a recall.

When I picked up the car, they had not upgraded the software. They claimed they did an upgrade per a recall notice, but when I pushed about the upgrade mentioned in the service bulleting, they admitted they had not performed that upgrade (despite my specifically giving them the Service Bulletin number when I made the appointment and when I dropped off the car).

It gets worse. Whatever upgrade they did perform: (a) wiped out saved preferences; (b) resulted in the steering wheel no longer rising when turning the ignition off; and (c) the rearview mirror compass freezing on a direction of NE (after recallibrating, this is now back to normal).

Worst of all, I have the rear entertainment package, which worked fine until this morning. I inserted a new DVD for my daughter and the screen said it could not read the DVD. Moreover, I cannot eject the DVD. Powered off, on, pressed eject, checked menus, etc. - I cannot figure out how to get it out. If anyone has any suggestions, my 2-year old would appreciate it.

My steering wheel has exhibited the problem you mentioned since I took delivery (Feb 2007). The wheel moves down insted of up when turning the ignition off, and will not move back to the original position when entering the vehicle. I have been waiting for a new software release to bring the car in for this problem - I think I will wait a bit longer now....

There have been numerous software upgrade stories that were successful, I think the problem might be with that particular service center.

Reading my service notes, It looks like my dealership had to run the upgrade 3 times before it finished correctly. The first two times completely locked at certains points. Technology is great when it works :-)

BTW, I think the steering wheel moving up is a preference setting in iDrive.

Can't find an option in iDrive for easy entry/exit moving the steering wheel up and down - only the programable steering wheel buttons. Manual only says that it occurs.

Yeah, I double-checked and could not find it in the iDrive. My steering wheel stopped moving up after the update too.

i had the same problems on iDrive settings/eq and the steering wheels. I already made an appointment tomorrow, however after finish reading this thread, im affraid that it would get worse..any idea what should i do? damn new cars always have problems. :confused:

man my dealer wouldn't do the upgrade for me.. simply because there was nothing wrong w/my current idrive software :(

sounds like you need a new dealer

lol serious

Rather than telling dealers how to fix the problem (upgrade software) just tell them to fix the problem. How they accomplish it doesn't matter. If they can't fix it that's another story.

Picked up the car after the software upgrade with the following to report:

1. Version 25.0 does, in fact, cause a problem with RTTI - iDrive shows RTTI is available but no information is gathered or shown on the NAV display - others have reported that version 25.2 is the most current and fixes this problem, so if you take your car in, make sure they have and will use 25.2 or you will have to take the car back in

2. The upgrade partially fixed the problem with comfort access steering wheel - it now rises when the ignition is turned off - however, the steering wheel does not lower to the user set position once the ignition is turned on - previously, the wheel lowered some of the time, but not it does not lower at all

3. The upgrade screwed up the compass calibration in the mirror - this is easily fixed by recalibrating it as set forth in the manual

4. So far, it appears that the brightness setting of the iDrive screen is retained - that said, the map display is much darker - the predominant color is a darker blue with less contrast in general (especially black street names against the blue background) - the NAV route path is a thicker white line that is easier to see

5. Upgrading requires reprogramming of the following settings: preset audio, lighting preferences, central locking preferences - it did not require a Bluetooth re-pairing with my phone - my phone recognized the car right away

I'll report anything else I learn

This is beginning to sound just like the problems that BMW had with the 2002 model year of the current 7 series. One would think that they would have learned from that launch....

Called the dealership back regarding version 25.2 and was told that 25.2 was not available to them at this time and they didn't know when it would be.

Has anyone received 25.2 and, if so, where was the dealership (US?)?

i've read on other boards that 25.3 is now available, but haven't seen the SIB to see what it fixes.

I am sure this has been asked but

Is there a definitive way of checking what software is installed when you collect the vehicle for the first time?

Also is this software only for the X5 or other models as well in other words should the dealer have at the UK launch? Or will we have to wait?

This update is for the newer hardware available in several models.

The only way to know what version you have is to ask the installer.

Thanks, so when you say installer I assume you mean the factory if so do they tell the dealer on the vehicle info that they have on thier system or can the dealer tell through the diagnostics system?

Do you know which models?

hey, does it cost anything to get the update

other than the headaches and lost time associated with taking the car in multiple times, and correcting the new problems created the various versions of the software, no - it's covered under warranty as mentioned in the Service Bulletin posted earlier in this thread

My dealer was about to do the upgrade to the 25.x software but the shop foreman informed me that they would not do the software ver 25.x currently as it has killed a few cars and they are still in the shop awaiting for more info from BMW NA. They said to wait a few more weeks until they know more unless absolutely necessary.

They said they will keep me advised....

I am scheduled for my software update this wednesday. Now i am apprehensive..should I wait?

Basically your call. I would ask your dealer what experience thay have had with the current upgrade. I know it killed a few x5s and X3's. I decided to error on the side of caution as I want to search for POIs but have no other issues.

Let us all know what you find out.

Got the new software upgrade today. Will update on speed of system after driving a few days. The new gray/silver appearance is nice. The differences appear to be in the nav system with another way to access information like restaurants and other POIs. The CD/Entertainment views are a little different and across the CD tab, there is also now a DVD selection that is greyed out on my system. Not sure what this is for. The DVD from the rear entertainment system still is accessed from the AUX/Rear tab. Tried putting a DVD in the NAV DVD slot, the regular CD in dash slot and the 6 disc changer but that did not make the DVD tab active. I will play with it more tomorrow. My dealer said the install went well and it did retain my settings. Makes no improvements to the rear view camera. It still sucks but seems to turn off a little more quickly than before. Still not fast enough. Does not fix the steering wheel memory issue (I am hoping someone else gets that one figured out). Map appearance is a little different and the turn arrows seem to come up more frequently.

hey guys,

regarding the rear view camera.. i'm coming to think that bmw purposely left the rear view camera on for a while longer even after u engage in Drive..

my reason being that u can actually turn the thing off faster if it bothers u by manually pressing on the PDC button (left of the DTC button) when in Drive and it will turn off right away.

hope this helps some of u :)

Does anyone have RTT working right now?
Mine is not working either and I did not update to ver 25 yet.

Could it be coincidence that the whole system is down right now?

My RTTI works and I haven't gotten flashed to 25 yet. With all the problems so far caused by a few iterations of 25, I may wait till its all cleared up. I really want the new interface though, but not enough to give up RTTI.

I get the TI+ icon at the bottom, but when I select info it just says downloading data and I never actually get the info.

thats exactly what other people have said after getting flashed. what version of 25 did you get?

thats the point---I DONT HAVE THE UPGRADE.
I wonder if the problem being reported is simply a coincidence, and the issue is with RTTI is some areas.

I do know that there is suppose to be an upgrade to the system at end of 1st quarter to expand markets and add features....could this be the cause of the troubles???

so the service worked before and now it doesn't? not sure what BMW can do for you, you may have to deal with ClearChannel since I think they are the ones that provide the service. Maybe there's something going on in your area (like new upgrade testing) thats affecting current service.

yes the service worked before.

Maybe I wasnt clear earlier...I was only reporting this to say "maybe the issue that others are reporting when they update their Progman to ver 25 is not really a problem but simply a coincidence".

Thats all I was trying to say.

So I got the upgrade today, any idea when the rtti will be working again? Mine is down, I am not sure if i should even call the dealer.

did it work before the upgrade?

from what i've seen, i think we gotta wait for 25.05 for everything to be fixed.

when do you think that is going to happen?

not sure but version 25.01 - 25.04 all pretty much came out within 2 months, so hopefully very soon.

So the rtti does not work for everyone with the new upgrade?

i haven't heard of anyone saying that RTTI works after getting flashed to one of the version 25 flavors.

there's also some problems with some people losing VR. many of the folks that have gotten the flash don't mind that RTTI/VR works b/c iDrive is so much faster and it now includes POI search, so I guess its a tradeoff till everything gets fixed.

My RTTI is gone as well. What I can't tell you is if it was working the week before the car went in for the upgrade. Maybe this is a coincidence. What blows my mind is that the dealer has no idea and claims that no one at BMW know either. Go figure!

There are documented SIBs that your dealer can get about all software upgrade 25.01-25.04 and they are all available now. They just don't want to do their homework.

I took my car in for service yesterday 'cause BMW assist couldn't get the location of my car. I just got a call from the service and said they will be updating software for the nav. and I mentioned about the RTTI not working afterwards. He told me not to worry 'cause there's a on/off function in Idrive? He also told me the car would be ready tomorrow so I'll check and let you guys know. I hope it'll be ready tomorrow, got X3 as a loaner and I really miss my X5.

I turned the RTTI option on and it still is not working.

He obviously has no idea what the deal is.

I picked mine up today after having Sirius installed. I have to tell you, I've never seen so much drama surrounding an installation of the Sirius radio. They had the vehicle a total of four business days because of this. It was all because the software refused to see it. As I was reading the notes on the RO, I just shook my head. Problems with "enabling codes" for the Sirius unit, using "SSS" called "PUMA," etc. These people use more acronyms than I do at work...which is pretty bad.

But I digress. Back on topic. They updated my software as well. Now I have no RTTI. And I am 100% certain I had it before I took it in, as my passenger was playing with it on the way to the dealer before it went in for the Sirius installation.

But, now it's gone. When I look at it, it says "transfering data" or something like that. But it never does anything. No plus sign next to the TI. I have a subscription to a service on my cell phone that has worked for a couple of years, so I'm not completely in the dark. But I'm not going to wait a long time to get a feature back that was (and is) a selling point of the vehicle.

The software problems are very amateurish to me. It must go through very poor quality assurance processes. I do like the new map colors, and I do like the more snappy iDrive interface. But I want my darn real-time traffic information back!!!

By the way, if VR is voice recognition, I still have that--at least for the functions I used it for on the way home. (Menus, radio.) I didn't use it with Navigation, however.

So, like the rest of you, I wait to get my RTTI back.

Joel

This is why I wanted to wait for the update! I'm gonna be soooo pissed at'em when mine comes back with no RTTI:rant:

I've held out from getting flashed until I know that everything is fixed; although that make take forever!!

Software update enable front access to Rear Entertainment?
 

I've had my new 3.0 for about 5 days now, and while I'm enjoying the vehicle, there are a few things bugging me about it. On this software topic, can anyone with the Rear Entertainment option confirm that they can control (start, stop, FF/RW, etc) a rear mounted DVD from the front IDrive? I can only select AUX and have the DVD audio play through the speakers, but I can't control the DVD. Pretty much defeats the purpose of entertaining youngsters in car seats who can't figure out the remote (which, by the way, is also horrible... but that is for a different thread).

I have to take the vehicle in for service this week to replace a running board (rubber grommets are not attached in the passenger side so the whole board is a slippery water trap) and replace/repair the center safety belt because it won't pull out from the seat. So, I'd like to have them update software while they are at it. Appreciate any feedback!

I got my car back over the weekend, and YUP no RTTI even though service adviser assured me that it would be working..... I will be calling my CA and rant tomorrow.

My SA is looking to flash the new software tomorrow morning. I really use the RTTI function. What version is giving all the problem? I want to check before he does it.

My SA just called about RTTI and said it had a glitch and new v25.1 will solve the problem which he'll try to have it installed this week. I don't know how much this guy knows about the updates 'cause he told me the updated software had 'on/off' swith will solve everything before my current update. Also I remember reading some members on this board had v25.1 or even v25.2 and still were having same problem. He also asked me not to participate in their servay untill they get this solved.

I've heard people talk about SAs giving this 'on/off' switch explanation, but I think its a crock of SHIT.

Well I hope not. Car is in the Shop now and will see what happens. I am sure they will let me know. I will let all know on this board when I get it back what happens.

To use one of my favorite terms: I think someone is peeing on you and telling you it is rain. I've seen (I think in this thread) later versions used, with the RTTI issue persisting.

I hope it is fixed for you---as I want to have specific instructions for my own service advisor when mine goes back in for the check engine light. (For the third time.)

Joel

As of today my Service Manager told me that V25.1 fixes the problem, and they'll have it availble for me tomorrow. Unfortunately I won't be able to have it downloaded until the week after next. I'll be cruising down the coast of Mexico next week.

unless you mean 25.10, I don't think so. 25.2 thru 25.4 exist because 25.1 didn't work.

No it looks like the correct version numbers are 25.002 thru 25.004

The latest release IS 25.1...should be available next week

so there's no version 25.006 - 25.009? do you know what 25.1 fixes?

nobody in the U.S. has it yet, but dealers are reporting that it will be available next week and that it solves all the problems. It has been available in Germany for a week now.

Dont know why they skipped over 006-009 other that maybe because it works now.

My X5 was built last week, I wonder if it has V25.1. I would imagine it does if it's been available in Germany for a week.
Is there any way to tell what software version your car has.
In my Audi you can easily look it up in the MMI system.

SA called today and said they downloaded from BMW the most recent software version for the X5, and it is 25.01. It's being installed as I write this. I'll let everyone know how things turn out.

Well BMW does indeed have a fix. I had my dealer upgrade my software to Ver 25.3 about 2 weeks back and ended up without Real Time Traffic Info updates.

Well today, received a call from my service advisor who informed me that someone from BMW was at the dealer to address a Nav situation they were having with a 3 series. Apparently this person had a laptop with a software update that resolves the RTTI issue. My advisor requested that if I were within 15 to 20 minutes of the dealership to swing by as he would keep the gent there long enough to flash my X5.:popcorn:

I am happy to report that it worked! :thumbup: I did not get to meet this BMW person but my Real time traffic updates now works. I am still checking to see if any new bugs exist but so far both traffic messsages and icons are now displayed.

The "+" sign is now gone but the "TI" letters remain.:thumbup:


By the way, if you are in the Michigan Area, Erhard BMW in Farmington Hills rocks!.

I just received a call from my dealer. My car is done. (Again) He told me that they resolved the RTTI issue by installing another upgrade. Suspicious that they had downgraded me, I asked the version. he told me "26."

So, unless there is some version that nobody here knows about (unlikely), I suspect I'm going to have a fun conversation with the SA this evening. I did ask that he validate the version number and have that for me when I arrive this evening.

He did assure me again that RTTI is fixed.

Joel

I picked up my vehicle this afternoon. Indeed, the RTTI is fixed. The version on the vehicle is 25.11, according to the SA. He also said 25.1.1. So, I'm not sure which of the two it is. It does have the fix to the NAV and the arrows popping up appropriately.

Now, if only I had the confidence that they actually fixed whatever is causing the engine light to come on. I was told it was the oxygen sensor. That's what it was two weeks ago, before this one. When I told the SA this again, and explained that this was the THIRD oxygen sensor (original, replacement one, this replacement), his eyes got wide. Although I'd told him this before, I think he thought I meant this was the second. I asked him yesterday if they were sure it was fixed, and if they were sure it wasn't a wiring harness or something else. Fingers are crossed.

Joel

i got my truck back.i dont have navi but my idrive software has been updated

If you don't have Navigation, I wonder what type of software upgrade was done for you and for what issue?

I am wondering what is the latest version being used to upgrade E70 now and if all the earlier issues has been resolved?

any update?

My SA swears that my car has been updated with version 25.004. If this is the case, I can tell you that it does not resolve the lost RTTI problem. The SA also says that there is a "rumor" of a new version being available shortly, but the dealership (Chicago, IL) does not have it yet.

I am holding up for an update that actually resolves majority of the issues reported earlier including RTTI. I went to the dealer for an oil change but I flatly refuse any type of software update due to the known issues. That was at least 3 weeks ago and I am wondering if other people received the very latest upgrade and would like to know their feedback!!!!

I had mine updated to the newest release about two weeks ago. It fixed the RTTI issue. The SA told me 25.1.01 was the latest version, which is what was installed on my vehicle.

So far, so good. It's almost impossible to know if it didn't break anything else, as so many things are controlled by the software. For example, I saw that there was a software version that changed the behavior of the heated seats. I never would have thought about that.

Joel

Thanks for the update! What about the tranny issue? Is it fixed as well with the 25.1.01 update?

I don't know that BMW has ever acknowledged a problem with the transmission. I haven't personally experienced it---or if I have, it wasn't something I could pick up on.

I've seen other threads on this, and have never really had anything tangible stating what symptoms I would look for. (Other than complete failure.) So, I can't answer the question on the transmission fix.

Joel

Thanks for the info!!!

My X5 was just updated. I asked to confirm the software version and was told 25.2
I dont know what actual version this is, could be 25.02.00, or 25.2, but based on recent threads the last known version that solved all the RTTI and VC issues was 25.01.01, so I assume this is later than that.

The tech also mentioned that this version updated the transmission software and fixed several known issues...I didnt really experience any issues so not sure what this meant.

I am picking up the X on the way home so I should have more info then.

I just picked it up...as reported UI is nicer, it seems a bit faster- not much. A few little improvements like:
1. Map stays up when restarting car (dont have to go back thru menus)
2. POI search now
3. Audio sources now go instantly to source, no need to enter "play"
4. Arrow pops up when navigating on smaller screen (but this does not work when nav is selected in HUD)
5. Route line on map is now much clearer
6. Bluetooth connects faster

BTW-
The tech stated he installed ver 25.2 (I asked twice)
RTTI is working, Voice Command is working, evertyhing works great and it was installed in one day.

All my settings are intact, except the 6 preset buttons for the IDrive, they are all gone.

Thanks for the update. I will probably bring in mine for a software update. I also will inquire about the Backup Camera acting up lately. It works intermittently giving me a blank(blue or sometimes black) screen. But nothing major I guess. Otherwise, everything is working properly.

A few more things I discovered w/ update:
7. On the nav screen, you can no longer click the "i" symbol on the left to turn off the icons. Now, it brings up another menu w/ options to turn on/off icons or search for other POI's...not as easy as the previos version, but more options.
8. BLUETOOTH- this is totally redone. You can now select "Start Pairing" in the IDrive (this wasnt possible before) There is also 3-4 new menu options including "Help". Overall, the pairing is quicker on my phone, and the bt connection happens alot faster when you enter the vehicle.
9. The CD interface is totally changed. The CD does not continue playing when you shut off the vehicle anymore.
10. Voice Commands seem to work better.
11. After more time with the system, it appears overall speed is about the same, not faster as I stated above.
12. It appears the transmission shifts at different times than before the update...I need to spend more time driving to determione this as I drove it home during rush hour and it was hard to tell.

Thanks for the update.
I am finally taking the plunge!. I scheduled a software update and Backup camera check next Wednesday. Hopefully, I am doing the right thing based on your positive feedbacks!!!!

The only thing I am not sure about is the changes to the transmission.
The standard mode is a big improvement, but DS mode now is too soft. Its hard to tell the difference between the two modes now.
I used to be able to slide over to DS and it would literally throw my head back against the head rest...now I really dont notice much of a change.

It also looks like my gas mileage took a big hit....I was getting 16.3 consistantly in the city, driving like a mad man.
Now I am at 13 +/- mpg

I noticed on my receipt it says somthing like "TRANSMISSION REPROGRAMMED LINE 10" so I am not sure if this is part of PROGMAN 25.2 or somthing different...in either case I think I liked it better the other way...just need more driving time to tell for sure.
I will say though that the standard mode is much improved, its just DS im not happy with now.

BTW- my build date is Nov/06...so this may fix somthing that is alreadyimproved on later builds.

One more comment:
The update is worth your time, simply for the addition of POI search (imo) and the other minor fixes...BUT...

POI search is poorly implimented...you have to dig down several layers to use it and you also have to know what category they put the POI in. Its a real pain, but its better than nothing.

Yeah, it's better than nothing, I guess. I am holding for any software update upto this point because I try to be on the conservative side and try to get the most stable update available. My build date was 12/1/06 so we are not the far behind. If you will find anything negative between now and Tuesday, please let me know and I will cancel my appointment!!!

Thanks, really apprecaite you sharing your feedback!

When they updated my car to 25.1.1, the steering wheel came down instead of up whenever I turn the ignition off. Setting the seat memory does not return the steering to my preset position either. Did they fix this with the 25.2 version?

I dont have this issue, actually dont have any problems at all (so far, knock on wood). RTTI and Voice commands work fine...overall a great update for me.

When this happened in my vehicle, it was a bigger fix than software. It required a new module for the steering column.

After I picked it up, the tech. had to do one more thing. He started the car, put the steering wheel all the way up, then all the way down, then all the way forward, then all the way back. He then told me to adjust to my taste. It worked great. He said it needed to be "re-calibrated" after the module replacement.

Joel

Interesting. Just got mine back and the steering column is going down as well when I turn the car off. Have an appt next week to get it fixed....

That did the trick. I moved the steering all the way up, down, forward, then back. Now it's working as it should. I guess they just forgot to calibrate it. Thanks.

can anyone take me through the steps to use POI. please

do you have the update?

If so search for a new location like normal, but now at the bottom of the catagories you will see a new option "NAME" to type in the name of the place you are searching for.

My E70 is now with the dealership and I was just told by the Service Advisor that the latest software upgrade available is 25.01.01 and this is the latest version available. I was also told that there will be a new version coming next month, which is version 26. The SA said that it will take them overnight to do the upgrade so hopefully I will get her back tomorrow night at the earliest.

25.2 is the latest...hopefully thats what you will get.

I was specifically told that there is no version called 25.2. The SA insisted that the latest available version is 25.01.01. He added that from 25.01.01, the next version coming out next month is version 26. Maybe other people can confirm if this information given to me is correct?

Just picked my car up from the dealer today after a previous attempt to upgrade the software killed RTTI as reported in this thread. The receipt from the dealership shows that the software was upgraded to version 25.02. The RTTI is back, but as someone else reported, only TI appears at the bottom of the iDrive screen (whereas TI+ previously appeared).

I also have 25.2 (or 25.02) installed and confirmed by my dealer. Version 25.01 had issues that .02 fixed.

I got my car back tonight but when I tried the backup camera, it went blank. I called the SA who took it back in the shop. After 20 mins of waiting he came back with a technician who said that the softwre upgrade by default turned off the camera. He said he turned it back on. But I asked my SA earlier if the Camera was tested and the answer was yes. Obviously, he was lying!!! I tested it and it looks like it was working. When I got home, I played with it moving back and forth. Lo and Behold it went blank again and I was not able to to turn it back on. Off to the dealership again. On my way there, I hit a traffic so I kept testing the camera by shifting the gear to Reverse. I guess, after almost 20 tries, the Camera finally came up so I went back home. So far, I had been switching the PDC button on and off while doing Reverse and it seems to be working now!. I just didnt get to confirm the software version because I was just handed the paperwork without any explanations. JMK BMW in Springfield have such a lousy service!!!

Update Today:
The Camera is still working intermittently!!!! and I can't even get hold of my SA nor his Service Manager. I have been waiting for a call back for more than 3 hours already.