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pvoltti 04-22-2007 05:17 AM
Personal test drive of a E70
 
Weather conditions: +2C, wet, motorway, driving in the city

E70 3.0d vs E53 4.4i (03)

Notices from the E70:
Interior:
Size of a steering wheel seems to be smaller in E70, but it is thicker. Contols are wery similar to E53. Sitting in front is very similar to E53.
+ E70 is definitely bigger than E53
+ a lot of room in the backseat
+ huge boot and no sparewheel => extra room!
+ aux in for iPod in the armrest
+ Electronical handbrake
- Boardcomputer navigation wheel is clumsy
- Stereo sound sucks

Exterior
+ E70 has a much cooler look than E53
+ Vipers are not visible when not in use.
- Difficult to see the edges of the car (especially front)

Driving:
+ Goes like a train in the turns. Car is like painted to the road. Beautiful.
+ Very efficient brakes
+ Car reacts immediatly to throttle
+ Smooth driving in slow speeds
- Bouncy transmission when more throttle is used => inconvient
- Diesel engine is noisy
- Ultra light steering. => difficult to drive - little control to road - easily oversteered
- Wind noise

cpd1 04-22-2007 07:08 AM
pvoltti,

Interesting about the steering, was it fitted with active steering?
It is cold in Helsinki!

pvoltti 04-22-2007 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpd1
pvoltti,

Interesting about the steering, was it fitted with active steering?
It is cold in Helsinki!
Yep. It was fitted with active steering. When turning there was not a proper touch to the road.

Actually I live 400 mls north of Helsinki - and this is a typical spring weather up here.

cpd1 04-22-2007 02:53 PM
Would be consistent with what I have heard about Active Steering. My dealer told me they haven't sold 1 new car specced with it since it was launched back on the 5 series...The only car they have ever sold with it was a ex launch car 6 series...I left it out of my spec but was tempted by it for low speed manoeuvers but hated the idea of a direction changing feel depending on the speed...
Hope the spring gets warmer soon for you
C

thisX5life 04-23-2007 02:08 AM
Active Steering was the one option I was really uncertain about when I was placing my order. I've read every comment I could find abouut it, in car reviews and on message boards, and it seems like some people love it and some people hate it. The X5 I tested didn't have it, and the steering felt fine to me. I asked my CA if the dealership had, or would soon get, an X5 with AS so I could try it out. I was told they didn't have a single vehicle of any series on the lot with AS, and so far no customer had ordered it on an E70. I called several other dealers in the area and got the same story.

I left it off my order.

e70 04-23-2007 06:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvoltti
Weather conditions: +2C, wet, motorway, driving in the city

E70 3.0d vs E53 4.4i (03)

Notices from the E70:
Interior:
Size of a steering wheel seems to be smaller in E70, but it is thicker. Contols are wery similar to E53. Sitting in front is very similar to E53.
+ E70 is definitely bigger than E53
+ a lot of room in the backseat
+ huge boot and no sparewheel => extra room!
+ aux in for iPod in the armrest
+ Electronical handbrake
- Boardcomputer navigation wheel is clumsy
- Stereo sound sucks

Exterior
+ E70 has a much cooler look than E53
+ Vipers are not visible when not in use.
- Difficult to see the edges of the car (especially front)

Driving:
+ Goes like a train in the turns. Car is like painted to the road. Beautiful.
+ Very efficient brakes
+ Car reacts immediatly to throttle
+ Smooth driving in slow speeds
- Bouncy transmission when more throttle is used => inconvient
- Diesel engine is noisy
- Ultra light steering. => difficult to drive - little control to road - easily oversteered
- Wind noise

Diesel engine is noisy????? (for a diesel engine?)

Are you sure?
Any other opinions?

tnt17 04-23-2007 11:03 AM
can you please be a little more specific on the wind noise. thank you.

mkaresh 05-01-2007 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pvoltti
+ Vipers are not visible when not in use.
- Difficult to see the edges of the car (especially front)
- Ultra light steering. => difficult to drive - little control to road - easily oversteered
Glad to hear the Vipers were not in use. They can be dangerous.

I've driven a couple of BMWs with the active steering, and recall it having a heavy feel at low speeds. Sounds like it's tuned differently in the X5.

d-rive 05-01-2007 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by e70
Diesel engine is noisy????? (for a diesel engine?)
Any other opinions?
is not noisy for a diesel engine. Is very rafined in comparison with "normal" diesel engine, the torque is very linear and powerfull. The 3.0d (235hp) is just ok, for sporty performance we need a bigger diesel engine like 3.0sd (286hp) or maybe a new 4,5 liter diesel engine.

richone52 05-02-2007 03:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thisX5life
Active Steering was the one option I was really uncertain about when I was placing my order. I've read every comment I could find abouut it, in car reviews and on message boards, and it seems like some people love it and some people hate it. The X5 I tested didn't have it, and the steering felt fine to me. I asked my CA if the dealership had, or would soon get, an X5 with AS so I could try it out. I was told they didn't have a single vehicle of any series on the lot with AS, and so far no customer had ordered it on an E70. I called several other dealers in the area and got the same story.

I left it off my order.
I did get the Active steering option on my e70 and I must say I am glad I did. It is nothing short of amazing. Once you get used to it I would not be without it. I had to bring my car in for service and they gave me a x3 without it as a loaner and after driving my e70 for a few weeks the x3 without itfelt dull and unresponsive. Since I got it most of the cars in my local dealership have it now and it's getting a lot of good talk.


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