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Alex Bidarian 07-17-2007 12:05 PM
Chrome Exhaust Tips for a E70 3.0si ???
 
Has anyone changed the standard dull looking black exhaust tips of the 3.0si to the chrome tips ??? If yes, who has the best deals on the net on these puppies with a BMWCCA discount ?

Thanks,

Alex Bidarian
2007 X5 3.0si - on order for Sept/Octob delivery

X5JDX 07-17-2007 02:49 PM
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See attached photo of chrome exhaust tips as fitted to my 3.0dSE. These were supplied by BMW.

golfer4life 07-17-2007 03:31 PM
I myself are looking at changing the factory exhaust tips for the E70 3.0. Does anybody know if I can fit the large 4.8 E70 tips into the 3.0? I just love that look.

Appreciate the input.

Alex Bidarian 07-17-2007 04:11 PM
I checked with a couple of dealers. You cannot :-(
 
I guess you cannot put the factory OEM chrome tips on the 3.0si from the 4.8i. I am sure you can buy some aftermarket ones and put them on, but not the OEM ones from the 4.8i.

Good luck. I just ordered the same ones as the black X5 3.0 above from a New Jersey dealer for a $100 + shipping.

Alex Bidarian
2007 X5 3.0si - on order for Sept./Oct. delivery

golfer4life 07-17-2007 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Bidarian
I guess you cannot put the factory OEM chrome tips on the 3.0si from the 4.8i. I am sure you can buy some aftermarket ones and put them on, but not the OEM ones from the 4.8i.

Good luck. I just ordered the same ones as the black X5 3.0 above from a New Jersey dealer for a $100 + shipping.

Alex Bidarian
2007 X5 3.0si - on order for Sept./Oct. delivery
That sucks. I guess I have to look around for the aftermarket one's. If not I'll do the same chrome tips that you're getting.

Thanks.

watrob 07-18-2007 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by king_alii
I myself are looking at changing the factory exhaust tips for the E70 3.0. Does anybody know if I can fit the large 4.8 E70 tips into the 3.0? I just love that look.

Appreciate the input.
Do you mean like this?

dencoop 07-18-2007 08:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by watrob
Do you mean like this?
I think he means similar ones, but not quit yours look too round/oval....

I looked into the same thing...

The reason you can not get the E70 4.8 tips is because they are part of the muffler and for a set it will run you about $600 USD.

Here is the next best thing. You can purchase the E53 (X5) 4.6/4.8is tips...they are very similar to the E70 4.8 tips and are OEM...you can order them from the board sponcer Morristown BMW for $220 (set).

...Or if you want to spend even less, then just get the aftermarket ones like some of the people on this board already did from e-bay for $110.

through my research this is the best you can do...unless you find a totaled E70 4.8 at your local junk yard purchase the rear mufflers with the exhous and cut the tips off then have them welded....

golfer4life 07-18-2007 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dencoop
I think he means similar ones, but not quit yours look too round/oval....

I looked into the same thing...

The reason you can not get the E70 4.8 tips is because they are part of the muffler and for a set it will run you about $600 USD.

Here is the next best thing. You can purchase the E53 (X5) 4.6/4.8is tips...they are very similar to the E70 4.8 tips and are OEM...you can order them from the board sponcer Morristown BMW for $220 (set).

...Or if you want to spend even less, then just get the aftermarket ones like some of the people on this board already did from e-bay for $110.

through my research this is the best you can do...unless you find a totaled E70 4.8 at your local junk yard purchase the rear mufflers with the exhous and cut the tips off then have them welded....
That's correct. I prefer the square looking one. I'll probably go for the E53 4.6 OEM tips.

Thanks for the info.

BTW, Watrob's tips looks pretty good also.

Alex Bidarian 07-19-2007 01:46 PM
Called BMW dealer, E53 4.6is/4.8is tips don't fit E70 3.0si tips !
 
I just called a couple of local BMW dealers and asked if the E53 4.6is/4.8is chrome tips fit the E70 3.0si muffler ends, and they said NO. It does NOT fit it. You would have to go an aftermarket chrome set to get a square chrome tip for the E70 3.0si.

Can you guys verify through your sources if this information is correct or not ???

Thanks.

Alex Bidarian

Alex Bidarian 07-19-2007 07:59 PM
Good news !!! The E70 4.8i chrome exhaust tips DO fit the 3.0si !
 
I just came from Crevier BMW in Santa Ana, California today at lunch. I went to their parts department and asked a specialist there if the tips of the 4.8i could fit into the 3.0si. After looking at both cars' exhaust tips and measuring the diameter (well, eyeballing is more like it), he said that the 4.8i chrome tips WOULD fit the 3.0si's. The only thing you have to do is to pop the extra plastic piece out of the rear bumper and they fit.

I hope I have not been given wrong info. So if I am wrong, please do not shoot the messenger !!!

Alex Bidarian

2007 E70 3.0si - on order

golfer4life 07-20-2007 03:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Bidarian
I just came from Crevier BMW in Santa Ana, California today at lunch. I went to their parts department and asked a specialist there if the tips of the 4.8i could fit into the 3.0si. After looking at both cars' exhaust tips and measuring the diameter (well, eyeballing is more like it), he said that the 4.8i chrome tips WOULD fit the 3.0si's. The only thing you have to do is to pop the extra plastic piece out of the rear bumper and they fit.

I hope I have not been given wrong info. So if I am wrong, please do not shoot the messenger !!!

Alex Bidarian

2007 E70 3.0si - on order
Thanks Alex. I will also check at my local dealership here in Valencia and see what they say. I was at Glendale BMW earlier today and one of the guys there told me it should also fit but they did not really do any measurement. You're lucky you're out there in OC. It's going to be super hot out here the next few days so we're spending the weekend at Newport Beach and kick back.

jamesboags 07-20-2007 03:33 AM
The exhaust diameter on the 3.0 is 70mm I believe ...

cpd1 07-21-2007 04:23 PM
X5JDX,

Are these from a 3 series 335i and they are just plugged over the standard tips?
Thx

C

Quote:
Originally Posted by X5JDX
See attached photo of chrome exhaust tips as fitted to my 3.0dSE. These were supplied by BMW.

X5JDX 07-22-2007 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpd1
X5JDX,

Are these from a 3 series 335i and they are just plugged over the standard tips?
Thx

C
Pretty sure that they are specific to the E70, the cut matches the rear profile perfectly.

I will post the part number and price here soon (don't have the spec sheet to hand just now).

BTW: I was hoping that the dealer was going to fit the 4.8 squarer tips, but to be honest the round ones look pretty good and I don't have to go hacking and welding a brand new car. The price of the round tips was very reasonable.

cpd1 07-22-2007 02:29 PM
Thanks X5JDX, I also prefer the round ones vs the 4.8, and they look like a very easy fit too. They do look great. Any moreinfo/part numbers greatly appreciated.
thanks

C

CS6913 07-23-2007 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Bidarian
Has anyone changed the standard dull looking black exhaust tips of the 3.0si to the chrome tips ??? If yes, who has the best deals on the net on these puppies with a BMWCCA discount ?

Thanks,

Alex Bidarian
2007 X5 3.0si - on order for Sept/Octob delivery
Here are photos of the stainless exits gone up on my diesel E70.

It is about tips available on the catalog accessories of BMW. Price: 98 euro the pair.

X5fwc 07-23-2007 02:42 PM
How to install E53 4.8is tips?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dencoop
I think he means similar ones, but not quit yours look too round/oval....

I looked into the same thing...

The reason you can not get the E70 4.8 tips is because they are part of the muffler and for a set it will run you about $600 USD.

Here is the next best thing. You can purchase the E53 (X5) 4.6/4.8is tips...they are very similar to the E70 4.8 tips and are OEM...you can order them from the board sponcer Morristown BMW for $220 (set).

...Or if you want to spend even less, then just get the aftermarket ones like some of the people on this board already did from e-bay for $110.

through my research this is the best you can do...unless you find a totaled E70 4.8 at your local junk yard purchase the rear mufflers with the exhous and cut the tips off then have them welded....
Anyone have info how to install these tips? Asked about them from my dealer and they said it's not going to fit just like that, you have to modify the existing tips...

mpgrant5 07-23-2007 05:34 PM
Exhaust tips
 
Hi

I have just taken delivery of e70 3.0d. Do an of you guys have any part numbers for the tips that fit the car. I am in the uk i will post pictures of the car if it ever stops raining

CS6913 07-24-2007 02:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Bidarian
I just called a couple of local BMW dealers and asked if the E53 4.6is/4.8is chrome tips fit the E70 3.0si muffler ends, and they said NO. It does NOT fit it. You would have to go an aftermarket chrome set to get a square chrome tip for the E70 3.0si.

Can you guys verify through your sources if this information is correct or not ???

Thanks.

Alex Bidarian
The french dealers indicate that it is not possible to go up the tips of E53 4.6 nor those of the E70 4.4.

The assembly of these last ones requires adaptations of the existing exits and thus pulls the loss of the guarantee manufacturer in case of problem of the system of escape.

jamesboags 07-26-2007 02:26 AM
Part #'s anyone , anyone, anyone ? Bueller , Bueller ?

X5fwc 07-26-2007 04:56 AM
Hartge has really nice looking tips, only the price is bit steep. 815 euros at Hartge dealer in Finland... Haven't asked directly from Harge though.
http://www.hartge.de/new/e/bmw_auspuff_4552.html

X5JDX 07-26-2007 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesboags
Part #'s anyone , anyone, anyone ? Bueller , Bueller ?
I will hopefully have a part number by the end of next week. The number is not listed on our spec sheet.

watrob 07-26-2007 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by X5fwc
Hartge has really nice looking tips, only the price is bit steep. 815 euros at Hartge dealer in Finland... Haven't asked directly from Harge though.
http://www.hartge.de/new/e/bmw_auspuff_4552.html
815 euros for tips, they would want to be gold plated for that price?

X5JDX 08-13-2007 08:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by X5JDX
I will hopefully have a part number by the end of next week. The number is not listed on our spec sheet.
A bit later than promised but here is the part number for the round chrome tailpipes:

82120429766

£54.95 inc TAX (for them both).

Oz BM 08-13-2007 11:25 PM
Thanks for the parts no. Checked with my dealer - Price in Australia is A$233.23

jamesboags 08-14-2007 12:55 AM
Ouch.. anyone know if these just slip on ?

Oz BM 08-14-2007 02:22 AM
apparently they do - just a screw underneath

jamesboags 08-15-2007 07:50 AM
That extortive price tag makes sense (not) for us Aussies as well they are $125 USD RRP in the US !!!

ozx5 08-21-2007 06:49 AM
4.8i tips for 3.0i and 3.0d
 
"alex bidarian" or anyone out there..??

This idea that you can't just buy 4.8i tips and put it on a 3.0i or disesel is what I've been told by aussie dealers/parts department too...(they've told me the tips dont have a part no. they came with the muffler already

though has anyone heard of any bmw stores (online) or e-bay that have identical 4.8 replicas...or any companies that produce exhaust tips for european cars (esp replicas of certain models)

sersiouly the round ones are just too round, the (E53) 4.6is/4.8is are too flat, the 4.8i (e70) are the best....are we sure that no one anywhere has caught these somehow, somewhere....:confused: :confused:

Help people....

thanks

drod 08-21-2007 04:17 PM
for what it's worth...came across this site... the square ones don't look bad... need to get exact measurements...

http://www.stanscycle.com/bmw_perfor...&brand_id=4558

golfer4life 08-21-2007 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
for what it's worth...came across this site... the square ones don't look bad... need to get exact measurements...

http://www.stanscycle.com/bmw_perfor...&brand_id=4558
nice link. thanks.

jamesboags 09-06-2007 08:25 PM
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Here's a photo uninstalled of the BMW chrome tips Part#82 12 0 429 766...

dencoop 09-06-2007 10:02 PM
I just ordered these...I hope they will look good on my car that I picked up at the PCD last Wed.

WOW...if anyone is picking up a car in the US you must do the PCD exp...just Awsome...I'll have the whole story with pics and video up soon on Bimmerfest and link......

http://static.zoovy.com/img/carparts.../x5exhaust.jpg

http://static.zoovy.com/img/carparts...x5exhaust2.jpg

HOiYA 09-06-2007 10:31 PM
I just took delivery of my 3.0si last week and looking at the back, the tips are chrome/silver and not black. The diameter is pretty thick already. Do the chrome tips slip over? Or does te 3.0si Sport/Prem package already include the tips? Sorry for the n00bie observation/question! :-)

drod 09-06-2007 10:36 PM
also..... it seems like changing them to the wider ones will require some sort of modification/cutting of the stock rear fender to make room..

can you confirm???

crazy4cars 09-06-2007 10:40 PM
HARTGE stainless steel tail piece
 
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18 70 0310 Ghttp://hartge.de/e/processedPictures/a/2249.jpgHARTGE stainless steel tail piece
with oval tail pipes left and right for 3.0d
(incl. connecting pipe for standard rear silencer)

drod 09-06-2007 10:48 PM
nice....


looks very similar to these found on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-X...QQcmdZViewItem

jamesboags 09-07-2007 01:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
I just took delivery of my 3.0si last week and looking at the back, the tips are chrome/silver and not black. The diameter is pretty thick already. Do the chrome tips slip over? Or does te 3.0si Sport/Prem package already include the tips? Sorry for the n00bie observation/question! :-)
Just fitted the ones I pictured , they slip over very easily and tighten up with one allen key screw..

HOiYA 09-07-2007 02:49 AM
4.8 Chrome Exhaust Tips for a E70 3.0si ???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfer4life
Thanks Alex. I will also check at my local dealership here in Valencia and see what they say. I was at Glendale BMW earlier today and one of the guys there told me it should also fit but they did not really do any measurement. You're lucky you're out there in OC. It's going to be super hot out here the next few days so we're spending the weekend at Newport Beach and kick back.
golfer4life,

Did you ever find out if te 4.8 tips fit on the 3.0si?

golfer4life 09-07-2007 03:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
golfer4life,

Did you ever find out if te 4.8 tips fit on the 3.0si?
Not really, people were giving me different answers but I saw a post from another forum that has a 3.0si with the 4.8 tips. I'm trying to track that post and will let you know. Thanks.

X5JDX 09-07-2007 04:21 AM
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e70-forum/...-kit-128s.html

Post with a 3.0d with the 4.8 chrome tips. Looks excellent.

jamesboags 09-07-2007 06:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by X5JDX
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e70-forum/...-kit-128s.html

Post with a 3.0d with the 4.8 chrome tips. Looks excellent.
Yeah it looks like a 4.8 !!;)

crazy4cars 09-07-2007 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
golfer4life,

Did you ever find out if te 4.8 tips fit on the 3.0si?
They do but BMW does not sell just the tips by themselves, you must buy the whole exhaust, however, the Hartge are the ones to get for either the 3.0i or the 3.0D

steel 09-07-2007 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
I just took delivery of my 3.0si last week and looking at the back, the tips are chrome/silver and not black. The diameter is pretty thick already. Do the chrome tips slip over? Or does te 3.0si Sport/Prem package already include the tips? Sorry for the n00bie observation/question! :-)
The factory tips on the 3.0si are stainless steel (as opposed to chrome). They don't have as thick a 'lip' as the chrome ones. . .which I might add are an excellent find. :thumbup:

HOiYA 09-07-2007 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy4cars
They do but BMW does not sell just the tips by themselves, you must buy the whole exhaust, however, the Hartge are the ones to get for either the 3.0i or the 3.0D
I had a look at the Hartge site and am I correct in that the tips would actually need to be welded and not just attached over the stock pipes?

crazy4cars 09-07-2007 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
I had a look at the Hartge site and am I correct in that the tips would actually need to be welded and not just attached over the stock pipes?
correct

elvism 09-07-2007 09:13 PM
so who do i get to install this weld these exhaust tips from hartge? muffler shop?

dkl 09-07-2007 10:15 PM
yep...any competent muffler shop should be able to do it.

HOiYA 09-07-2007 10:23 PM
Now I am intrigued.... where can I order these tips online and how much should I expect to dole out?

crazy4cars 09-07-2007 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
Now I am intrigued.... where can I order these tips online and how much should I expect to dole out?
yes, as simple as is, everything we get from ACS, Hamman, Hartge, Supersprint as far as mufflers is weld in, only ACS tips are bolt on.

elvism 09-08-2007 03:41 PM
does welding on tips have any effect on warranty?

jamesboags 09-10-2007 04:27 AM
I've actually since lenghthened my original install by around an inch and they look so much better now.. they look quite mean !!

golfer4life 09-10-2007 10:02 AM
Does anybody know which Hartge web site everybody's talking about. I tried Google and I can't seem to find it.

http://www.hartge.de/html/indexuk.html this one doesn't seem to work

Thanks

X5fwc 09-10-2007 10:08 AM
Try this:

http://www.hartge.de

then choose english for language

golfer4life 09-10-2007 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X5fwc
Try this:

http://www.hartge.de

then choose english for language
Thanks. That worked. I think I found the right part that was originally posted in this thread.

Does anybody know how to order these in the US?

Thanks.

kyhaynes 09-10-2007 01:04 PM
I am aloso interested in purchasing these. Please let me know when you find out how to order them for shipment to the US.

steel 09-10-2007 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesboags
I've actually since lenghthened my original install by around an inch and they look so much better now.. they look quite mean !!
Pictures!

You know what they say, 'post 'em if you've got 'em'.

kyhaynes 09-10-2007 02:26 PM
Spk with Doug at Turner Motor Sports. They are an authorized Hartge distributor for North America. Will have pricing on 4.8si exhaust tips (pic in golpher4life post) in the morning. Will let you know. Group buy???

golfer4life 09-10-2007 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhaynes
Spk with Doug at Turner Motor Sports. They are an authorized Hartge distributor for North America. Will have pricing on 4.8si exhaust tips (pic in golpher4life post) in the morning. Will let you know. Group buy???
Sounds good! Please let us know. Thanks.

rainmn60 09-10-2007 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhaynes
Spk with Doug at Turner Motor Sports. They are an authorized Hartge distributor for North America. Will have pricing on 4.8si exhaust tips (pic in golpher4life post) in the morning. Will let you know. Group buy???
I would be interested, as well. Thanks!

calix5fan 09-10-2007 04:47 PM
Everything if funner in groups... count me in

elvism 09-10-2007 04:57 PM
im in. i also called tuner motorsport ..
 
what about waranty issue if welding is involved?? no problem right?

golfer4life 09-10-2007 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elvism
what about waranty issue if welding is involved?? no problem right?
My dealer said it will affect the warranty and I have to remove it when I turn in the car after the lease is up.

He is checking with the Service Director to confirm.

If this is the case, I will have to go with the slip on round chrome tips.

golfer4life 09-10-2007 07:05 PM
Welding the tips will void warranty
 
I just confirmed from my SA that welding the 4.8 exhaust tips will void the warranty on the muffler system. I guess I'm out for the Hartge tips. I'm going for the slip on chrome tips like James'.

jamesboags 09-10-2007 07:20 PM
They look quite good.. I fitted them flush with the existing exhaust at first and have since extended them out just enough to allow me to tighten the allen bolt... I'll take another picture and post.

dencoop 09-10-2007 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
nice....


looks very similar to these found on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-X...QQcmdZViewItem
That is exectly what I ordered....I called them up to confirm that they will fit the E70...and they stated that they will and that they have a lifetime cor. warranty.....so for $114 for both I figured its worth a try...I should be getting them tomorrow...hopefully they look as good in person as in pics...if they do i will fit them on the SAV and post pics...if not I'll send them back....

HOiYA 09-11-2007 12:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dencoop
That is exectly what I ordered....I called them up to confirm that they will fit the E70...and they stated that they will and that they have a lifetime cor. warranty.....so for $114 for both I figured its worth a try...I should be getting them tomorrow...hopefully they look as good in person as in pics...if they do i will fit them on the SAV and post pics...if not I'll send them back....
Let us know how this goes. I'd be interesting in seeing how they look installed. Is it relatively easy to pop out the extra piece of the bumper to fit the larger tips?

golfer4life 09-11-2007 01:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dencoop
That is exectly what I ordered....I called them up to confirm that they will fit the E70...and they stated that they will and that they have a lifetime cor. warranty.....so for $114 for both I figured its worth a try...I should be getting them tomorrow...hopefully they look as good in person as in pics...if they do i will fit them on the SAV and post pics...if not I'll send them back....
This is interesting. I looked up this item and it does say that it's an easy clamp type installation. Pretty good price also.

Please let us know if it works. Thanks.

dencoop 09-11-2007 05:06 PM
Does anyone know how to remove the plastic trip around the stock 3.0si tips?

Do I just pull....?

I dont want to break anything....

Please let me know....

Thnak you.

jamesboags 09-11-2007 05:34 PM
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Some more pictures.. sorry for quality they were taken with my phone (or maybe with the rear view camera !!)..

HOiYA 09-11-2007 09:09 PM
Hey dencoop,

Any pictures with the new pipes installed?


Quote:
Originally Posted by dencoop
Does anyone know how to remove the plastic trip around the stock 3.0si tips?

Do I just pull....?

I dont want to break anything....

Please let me know....

Thnak you.

dencoop 09-11-2007 09:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HOiYA
Hey dencoop,

Any pictures with the new pipes installed?
Have not installed them yet....thinking of the best way to remove the plastic piece around the pipes.....

I think I may just take it to a shop and have them remove the plastic and weld the tips.....

HOiYA 09-12-2007 02:39 AM
kyhaynes,

Did you get a quote on how much the Hartge tips will run?


Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhaynes
Spk with Doug at Turner Motor Sports. They are an authorized Hartge distributor for North America. Will have pricing on 4.8si exhaust tips (pic in golpher4life post) in the morning. Will let you know. Group buy???

kyhaynes 09-12-2007 11:19 AM
Bad news......

Hartge does not sell the tips alone. They are sold with the performance mufflers for the E70 X5. They currently only list muffler systems for the X5 3.0d Diesel model. They do not yet have any exhaust systems for the gasoline engines

kyhaynes 09-12-2007 12:53 PM
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Here is a pic of an exhaust system and rear apron by Hamann. Looks good!

X5fwc 09-12-2007 01:46 PM
Hartge does have tailpipes for 3.0 diesel engine. Haven't checked how much different the exhaust is but i bet you can fit these for 3.0si exhaust also. Part number is 18 70 0310 G and costs in Finland no less than 815 euros ;-) AC Schnitzer also has tailpipes which are bolt on. Price 915 euros... But they look good though
http://www.hartge.de/e/processedPictures/c/2250.jpg

elvism 09-13-2007 07:52 AM
whats the word on the tips?? get them on? feedback and pictures,, please

HOiYA 09-20-2007 02:13 AM
Any progress on your install?


Quote:
Originally Posted by dencoop
Have not installed them yet....thinking of the best way to remove the plastic piece around the pipes.....

I think I may just take it to a shop and have them remove the plastic and weld the tips.....

celm 09-27-2007 07:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...5/100_1477.jpg

rufusdedog 09-27-2007 08:14 PM
On ebay right now 4.8 OEM tips...prob from a wreck
 
http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/b7/d2/cb51_2.JPG

6.00 Place Bid

HOiYA 09-27-2007 08:42 PM
celm,

Did you just screw those on or did you get them welded on? Any chance you can take a pic from the side? From your pic they seem to stick out quite a bit.

drod 10-01-2007 09:53 PM
it seems like they will stick out regardless....measurements say about 9inches long!!

any chance they can be cut down a bit??

are they bolt on or welded?

HOiYA 10-02-2007 12:11 PM
Thanks. I ended up ordering the OEM tips for the 3.0 from Morristown.

drod 10-05-2007 11:08 PM
does anyone know what the maximum supported length is available when swapping out the stock 3.0si tips?

there are many universal fit chrome tips available but some are 9inches total length and some upto 12inches long!!

also, what is the inlet size needed? 2.25, 2.5, 3.0inch??

I want to order a dual exhaust tip for the 3.0 (one inlet, two outlet) but I'm concerned about it sticking way out...

calix5fan 10-14-2007 02:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
does anyone know what the maximum supported length is available when swapping out the stock 3.0si tips?

there are many universal fit chrome tips available but some are 9inches total length and some upto 12inches long!!

also, what is the inlet size needed? 2.25, 2.5, 3.0inch??

I want to order a dual exhaust tip for the 3.0 (one inlet, two outlet) but I'm concerned about it sticking way out...
I went to two muffler shops today and both of them said they won't touch it. They said the maximum to consider is 5 inches total and 2.5 inlet - but preferable smaller. They didnt have any and weren't interested in the job... one place said "your car is too nice to mess with"

drod 10-14-2007 08:30 PM
came across a few other options that may meet those requirements...

sizes and length seem to fit...

worth looking into...


http://www.autotoyaz.com/extipstainst.html

http://www.autoanything.com/exhausts...A2491A0A0.aspx


http://www.pypesexhaust.com/tips.html

elvism 10-14-2007 10:50 PM
thanks for the research on tips... what was the sizes and length were looking for here???? which on you going for???

drod 10-15-2007 06:55 PM
I'm going to contact all of them to get specs...

from the sound of it, it looks like we're looking for an inlet of 2.5 inches and no more than 5 inch total length on the tips to give it that stock look.

I like the dual tip design...

some will require welding but there are a few that are bolt-ons...

if you there are other options out there please join in!!;)

X5fwc 10-23-2007 06:13 AM
Looks very good. How much did you pay for the tips?

stevends 10-23-2007 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by X5fwc
Looks very good. How much did you pay for the tips?
I paid +- 800 euros for the exhausts.
I fitted them myself with our mechanic otherwise you'll have to pay the work to put them on, don't know how much that costs.
It took us +- 3 hours to put them on.

dwarfer 10-23-2007 08:38 AM
Does the Hartge exhaust void your BMW warranty in any way?

My dealer said that the word is BMW are due to release some new bolt on tips for the 3.0 petrol and deisel similar to the 4.8 tips, but he could not give me any more info so not holding my breath

stevends 10-23-2007 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwarfer
Does the Hartge exhaust void your BMW warranty in any way?

My dealer said that the word is BMW are due to release some new bolt on tips for the 3.0 petrol and deisel similar to the 4.8 tips, but he could not give me any more info so not holding my breath

I checked with my dealer and he doesn't see any problem with it as it's an approved and well tested (by TUV Germany) part. It also comes with a whole set of documents that states that it's specially designed for this car.
In fact my BMW dealer is the main importer for Hartge in Belgium and he delivered me the exhausts.
I can imagine if you buy tips that are not designed for this car and you try to modify the exhaust that this will void the warranty but otherwise I can't see any problem.

X5falcon 10-23-2007 10:01 AM
Another alternative is, get the original '08 3.0si chrome exahust (circular, not oval). I looked at them from beneath the car this weekend (I see my car under the sun only during the weekends, because I work like a slave....), and they seem to be inserted into the stainless steel exhaust like.. uhm... condoms..... he he...

It does not look as good as 4.8i's oval ones, but definitely lot better than the stainless steel ones. I still do not have the picture....

X5fwc 10-24-2007 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevends
I paid +- 800 euros for the exhausts.
I fitted them myself with our mechanic otherwise you'll have to pay the work to put them on, don't know how much that costs.
It took us +- 3 hours to put them on.
Thanks for the info. I have been considering the same tips. Just wanted know if i'm getting ripped off. Asking price here in Finland is 812 euros, so it's close enough for me.
The tips look really good on your car.

kyhaynes 11-08-2007 04:00 PM
Does anyone have any exhaust pics or updates for the 3.0si? I notice that most of the aftermarket tips are for the 3.0 diesel version, i.e . Hartge, Hamman. Someone PLEASE HELP!

drod 01-16-2008 12:15 PM
any notes on proper removal of rear bumper...

i have AC Schnitzer exhaust tips i want to install but i may need to have the stock tip cut off an inch.... there isn't much clearance to cut around without touching the bumper/plastic area...and i don't want to scratch it or risk damaging it...

does anyone have documentation on removal???

proveg 01-16-2008 01:00 PM
On the home page there are instructions on the E53 bumper removal, I imagine they might be similar to the E70, sorry searched all over, but havent found any specific instructions. the E70 Trailer hitch instrucitons include info about removing bumper but nothing detailed enough, but could be your starting point.
Please let us know how it turns out, can you for now attach tips without cutting pipes and show us some pics?
Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
any notes on proper removal of rear bumper...

i have AC Schnitzer exhaust tips i want to install but i may need to have the stock tip cut off an inch.... there isn't much clearance to cut around without touching the bumper/plastic area...and i don't want to scratch it or risk damaging it...

does anyone have documentation on removal???

drod 01-16-2008 01:47 PM
i was more concerned about the PDC sensors on the bumpers.. not sure how they are affected when removing the rear bumper...

just wanted to know if there were any hidden connectors that needed to be removed..

i also plan on attaching the bolt-on tips without cutting anything this weekend just to see how they look... the tips are shortest i've found...(6.25inches long) and believe me i've been searching for months.....

but just from the looks of it, they will stick out a couple of inches...

jayo 01-16-2008 01:47 PM
Another member explained how he fitted a Euro tow bar to his E70 which required the removal of the bumper

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e70-forum/...h-install.html

jamesboags 01-16-2008 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
i was more concerned about the PDC sensors on the bumpers.. not sure how they are affected when removing the rear bumper...

just wanted to know if there were any hidden connectors that needed to be removed..

i also plan on attaching the bolt-on tips without cutting anything this weekend just to see how they look... the tips are shortest i've found...(6.25inches long) and believe me i've been searching for months.....

but just from the looks of it, they will stick out a couple of inches...
I have the instructions at home , I'll post it tonight...:thumbup:

jamesboags 01-21-2008 04:23 AM
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Heres the instructions for the rear bumper removal...;)

drod 01-21-2008 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfer4life
I just confirmed from my SA that welding the 4.8 exhaust tips will void the warranty on the muffler system. I guess I'm out for the Hartge tips. I'm going for the slip on chrome tips like James'.
did he mean void just the muffler system? or void warranty altogether on the vehicle??

i am installing tips and my have them welded but i don't want the dealer to telling me he can no longer provide warranty service on it..(regardless of what the issue is)

just want to make sure..

Hans_ACS 01-21-2008 02:24 PM
That's ridiculous! How can installing end pipes affect the warranty on the muffler ? It is just a tube you are installing !

M-individual 01-21-2008 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans_ACS
That's ridiculous! How can installing end pipes affect the warranty on the muffler ? It is just a tube you are installing !
+1. Your SA is telling you BS. I had Hartge exhaust tips installed on my 6 series, I had AC Schnitzer exhaust tips installed on my 7 series. Hell, I have an Eisenmann Sport exhaust installed on my M6 and never did my SA tell me warranty would be void.

He may be talking differently if he would be selling the Hartge exhaust tips. If you like them just go get them. They look great.

ekelly 02-18-2008 09:40 PM
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HAMANN REAR SPORT MUFFLER

 Have any of you guys seen these tailpipes. Look very similar to the ones on the 4.8i.


I think they look better than the tailpipes offered by Hartge

drod 02-18-2008 10:04 PM
need more info on them...

have a link but no additional info...

http://www.hamann-motorsport.com/772.0.html

ekelly 02-18-2008 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
need more info on them...

have a link but no additional info...

http://www.hamann-motorsport.com/772.0.html
I have sent an email to the sales team in the UK asking about prices and the fitting of them.

Drod, You should get check with HAMANN USA for prices and see if they can tell you more.

Link : http://www.hamann-motorsport.com/69.0.html?&L=1

drod 02-18-2008 10:29 PM
http://www.hamann-motorsport.de/591.0.html?&L=1

nice designs... anyone have pricing info??

CS6913 02-19-2008 05:15 AM
In Europe,

HARTGE stainless steel tail piece with dual round tail pipes left and right
for 3.0d, 3.0sd and 3.0si (incl. connecting pipe for standard rear silencer)
880 euros

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9679/2247lx3.th.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5...ic53xf3.th.jpg



HARTGE stainless steel tail piece with oval tail pipes left and right
for 3.0d, 3.0sd and 3.0si(incl. connecting pipe for standard rear silencer)
750 €

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5779/2249qs2.th.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7177/pipesop0.th.jpg





HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( Ø 76mm )
for 3.0d, 3.0sd, 3.0si and 4.8i

1.980,00 €
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9...ublepl4.th.jpg










HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER Sport rear muffler with two oval stainless-steel tailpipes ( Ø 145x75mm )
for 3.0d, 3.0sd, 3.0si and 4.8i

ekelly 02-19-2008 08:57 AM
Thanks for the price info CS6913.

golfer4life 02-19-2008 10:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
did he mean void just the muffler system? or void warranty altogether on the vehicle??

i am installing tips and my have them welded but i don't want the dealer to telling me he can no longer provide warranty service on it..(regardless of what the issue is)

just want to make sure..
Drod, I checked with 3 dealers in my area and they all advised me that it will void the warranty on the muffler system if I have the tips welded. Again, these are U.S. dealers in my area (Southern California).

It won't hurt to check with your local dealer. They might say something different.

drod 02-19-2008 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfer4life
Drod, I checked with 3 dealers in my area and they all advised me that it will void the warranty on the muffler system if I have the tips welded. Again, these are U.S. dealers in my area (Southern California).

It won't hurt to check with your local dealer. They might say something different.
you're right about voiding warranty if you weld...but there aren't any bolt-ons available in the market today... believe me i've tried them all...

they are either too big (requiring welding) or too small (requiring welding) and they all require cutting off some of the stock exhaust excess to make them flush or "matchable" to the rear bumper...

and because i've tried every imaginable exhaust tip... i am now looking into full or cat-back exhaust systems...some of them i'm actually testing..

not too concerned about exhaust system warranty.... and parts warranty will come from the exhaust manufacturer...

golfer4life 02-19-2008 05:59 PM
Agreed. Come to think of it, I can't recall ever a time where I had problems with the muffler system on any of the cars I owned, specially I never kept them for more than 5 years. So I should be okay with the welded tips and not worry about voiding the warranty. A couple of local muffler shops quoted me $80 dollars a piece to weld on a 4.8 style tip. I'm in no rush since my dealer gave me a free set of the rounded OEM stainless tips.

Do keep us posted on what type of set up you'll end up getting.

ekelly 02-27-2008 08:20 PM
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Looks like the oval tips from HAMANN on a M SPORT. Pretty good.

watrob 02-27-2008 11:14 PM
I had welded oval tips to my last E70 with no problems with warranty and will do the same with the new sd version.

Futureman 03-05-2008 01:34 PM
Mine Hartge tips are for sale. I decided to take the 4.8 exhaust. Today the welded the 4.8 tips on my 3.0sd.
So the Hartge tips are for sale. I send worldwide and accept paypal ;)

ekelly 03-05-2008 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Futureman
Mine Hartge tips are for sale. I decided to take the 4.8 exhaust. Today the welded the 4.8 tips on my 3.0sd.
So the Hartge tips are for sale. I send worldwide and accept paypal ;)
Futureman, if you get the chance will you take a few pics of the original 4.8 tips on your 3.0sd?

Want to see how much the differ from your Hartge tips in the attached picture.

Thanks.

Futureman 03-05-2008 07:16 PM
I will post some tomorrow, here are some with the Hartge


http://www.watches4sale.nl/bmw/IMG_3145.JPG
http://www.watches4sale.nl/bmw/IMG_3144.JPG

ekelly 03-05-2008 07:20 PM
Appreciate it Futureman:thumbup:.

Cheers.

CS6913 03-06-2008 04:57 AM
3.0d with Hartge Exhaust Tips:

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e70-forum/...onversion.html

Futureman 03-07-2008 07:15 PM
now with 4.8 Tips:
http://www.watches4sale.nl/bmw/compare.jpg

ekelly 03-07-2008 08:41 PM
In terms of aesthetics, I think you made the right choice in changing to the original 4.8 tips. Out of curiosity were the 4.8 tips supplied and fitting by your BMW dealer?

That’s the look I hope to achieve with an M-Sport come June. Cheers for the comparison picture Futureman.

ekelly 05-16-2008 12:56 PM
The price of the 4.8i exhaust tips including the cost of fitting them is roughly €1000:yikes:, quotation from local dealer.

As much as I like the look, it’s a little to dear for me.

kyhaynes 06-04-2008 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drod
you're right about voiding warranty if you weld...but there aren't any bolt-ons available in the market today... believe me i've tried them all...

they are either too big (requiring welding) or too small (requiring welding) and they all require cutting off some of the stock exhaust excess to make them flush or "matchable" to the rear bumper...

and because i've tried every imaginable exhaust tip... i am now looking into full or cat-back exhaust systems...some of them i'm actually testing..

not too concerned about exhaust system warranty.... and parts warranty will come from the exhaust manufacturer...
Any pics on your exhaust system yet?

drod 06-04-2008 10:13 PM
went through a number of different exhaust tip options... none of them gave me what i wanted...

i've decided to go with a semi-full exhaust setup instead...

i'm waiting for a axle back exhaust system to arrive shortly...

i will post pics once i have it installed...

ozx5 06-07-2008 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ekelly
The price of the 4.8i exhaust tips including the cost of fitting them is roughly €1000:yikes:, quotation from local dealer.
eKelly, does that mean that your dealer has secret sources in BMW...or are the 4.8 tips now available (ie they have a part #)

Do you have this part #, if it exists, can you dealer give this to you, and you can share it with the rest of us...?

Also..do you have larger pics of your car...the avatar looks great...but too small...what style wheels are they....128??

ekelly 06-09-2008 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozx5
eKelly, does that mean that your dealer has secret sources in BMW...or are the 4.8 tips now available (ie they have a part #)

Do you have this part #, if it exists, can you dealer give this to you, and you can share it with the rest of us...?

Also..do you have larger pics of your car...the avatar looks great...but too small...what style wheels are they....128??
Hi ozx5

No, not at all. My local dealership is just your average run of the mill BMW garage. In order to get hold of the OEM 4.8i exhaust tips you have to order the complete rear silencer (Part # - 18 10 7 558 646). My dealer had no problem ordering it and spot welding the 4.8i tips on but it was quite pricey.

Yeah my wheels are the Spider Spoke 128’s. If you want any more just let me know.

Kind Regards
ekelly


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