X5 Facelift Pics and updates( w/ Leaked Official pics)
 

Pic's of X5 facelift via WorldCarFans.No sign of the mules in South Carolina...yet.Thanks!!! PalBay BMW X5 Facelift First Spy Photos - Worldcarfans

please don't make it a bubble car
please don't make it a bubble car
please don't make it a bubble car


I can see what they mean by the rounder fronts near the lamps... the rear also appears taller (just suspension maybe?). If they continue with this it will look more like an avg people hauler and lose the aggressive look altogether.

i am glad it doesn't look that much different.

If anything, it looks a bit more like the E53. :dunno:

I hope it looks a lot better than this because from the pics it doesn't look aggressive at all.

Yeah not too much different--which is good and bad I guess. But it's still early to tell. I sure hope they paint the rear bumpers. :confused:

They look better here on X5world. ;)

Can you say body colored bumpers?

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The first couple of pictures, it seems that the X5 has been jacked up. Looks like BMW is trying to create an off-road version of the truck ;)

I see hardly any difference. The only different parts are the front & rear bumpers, which are the only camouflaged parts. And the front bumper looks less aggressive than on the current model. The wheels look too small (16"?). Maybe this is not a facelift but a test of a new, more aerodynamic bumpers (efficient dynamics)...?

it looks alot like the m sport package but higher
the front skirt looks the same but a bit wider, and the rear also looks like the rear of the m sportpackage

I agree, I don't see much of a difference at all. :confused: The rear seems jacked up for some reason. Those are obviously two different X5's. One has the black shadowline trim and the other has chrome & camouflaged bumpers. I doubt this is the facelift version.

It's a facelift; not a redesign. There really aren't many differences between the pre and post facelifted E53s, either.

New bumpers + jacked up... maybe they are testing an off-road package?

I find it very hard to believe this is a mid-cycle facelift if it only involved bumpers that actually look less modern / cool than the current ones. If you think about the current X5's shortcomings I can only really think of a mid-cycle refresh involving:

* engine upgrades to TT 6 and 8 cylinders
* i-Drive update

adjustable ride height will mean one will be in our future...

pff, nothing to be worried about...

> New bumpers + jacked up...


(1) There were very strong rumors that the 2008 X5 would have the twin turbo six engine, but it never happened.

(2) The twin-turbo 3-series is know to have been marginal on cooling, and probably should have had a substantial oil cooler or larger radiator.

(3) The twin-turbo in an X5 would be operating at a higher average HP level, generating more heat, due to the greater weight of the vehicle.


Possible conclusion?

BMW was planning to put the twin-turbo six into the 2008 X5, but encountered cooling issues and put it on hold until the 2010 model, when they could redesign the bumper and front end to allow oil coolers with adequate airflow to be installed, and possibly a larger radiator.


Just a bit of pure speculation on my part.

I think the most important change/question is what will be under the hood. ;)

:thumbup:

So is this change going to be equivalent to the 2004 facelift the E53 got? If so, boy that came pretty early didn't it?

I like it. I agree with Michelle that it has shades of the E53 but I think the front end is more "aggressive" looking with the X6 kinda sorta air intakes. It has subtle changes but thank god nothing outrageous. It's a nice update. My two cents adjusted for inflation yet to come.

Technically is supposed to be 2011 model year and it might still be if they release in early 2010.

Don't forget to adjust for your Obama stimulus package . . .:bustingup

Another question is whether the X5 will ever get to the US sales volume
they "need/require"? The halcyon days of 40,000+ units per year are gone, imo.
That, and one needs an X5 Spotter's Guide to casually discern the diff
based on those pics.

i still miss the strong back of the original.....wide and agressive....i love my new E70 for all of its advances but miss the old body style.....
mp

We are one of those awaiting an update.... we've already decided to trade ours as we are having tyre wear (front outer edges BALD after 14,000km) air con that cannot be used in the rear without the front sounding like a 747 on take off and with pi@@ all airflow through the front vents, finish on the steering wheel peeling off etc.

I bought a 540 LCI (mid life update) and all the bugs had been ironed out. It's been a wonderful car with not a single issue.... so we have accepted that manufacturers cannot always get it right first time and we will move to the update asap.

My wife is 'over' the fact that we pay $150k for something that cannot cool you down on a hot day.... and day after day of 35 degree heat kind of reinforces it

Cheers

J

PS. A mate of mine asked me about our tyre wear and then reported that his Cayenne had chewed through 3 sets in 40,000km.... guess we all have our gripes....

Your E70 has steering wheel finish peeling? I thought that was an E53 problem only. Can you snap a photo of it and your tires?

BTW, opening the rear vent all the way on the E53 also generates considerable noise I have to say. It isn't until you shut it that everyone in the car notices how loud it was!

:rolleyes: Obviously its a mule to test the new dip stick mod in all engines ;)

:rofl: ...Near Rack It territory! :thumbup: ... :bustingup

Approaching 40,000kms on 21", Dunlops, run flats
Compared to the E53, I`m pumping these harder, 2.9 rear, and 2.4 front and wear seems to be much better/last longer on the E70.
My 0.002c

Cheers,

And there are more.....not sure if they are facelift pics as these could be revised M-sport package as the only changes are on bumpers. The current M-sport pack is not that hit as we all know....

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i like the rear of that,

:iagree:

I'd wish the X5 had the M6 side mirror turn signals ....

New style angel eyes coming in facelift X5.....white instead of yellow.

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my thoughts exactly, i think they r making a new M body kit which looks like the new X5 M, u can tell that it looks like the m sport package by look at the front bumper and the rear bumper

I spy an intercooler...

Edit: One on the left wheel well too — just like the oil cooler on the 335i...

so I guess we'll be able to order OEM white angel eyes to retrofit in due time... what about the fogs?

New bumpers, intercoolers... Looks more like testing the X5 for the upcoming new TT engines rather than a facelift...

I wonder if they looked at the new lexus. One smart thing they did was put the rear wiper underneath the top spoiler or cover so it stays hidden. Just think how great that is in the winter and to help stop all that crap collecting from back there.

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Agree. You can clearly see the oil cooler right below the license plate. You can easily tell is an oil cooler as it is quite different from the radiator seen through the kidney grills. And Yes, you can also see an intercooler through the opening on the bumper on the driver's side. That pretty much comfirms it's a Turbo powered vehicle.

Makes sense. It's cheaper to produce engines in larger numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if the TT V8 also becomes the standard V8 in the class, just like it did in the new 7 series. Wouldn't be surprised if they did that in the 5 series too.

Too expensive to produce 2 different V8's. Easier and less expensive to just slightly modify the boost and cooling the for high performance versions, than to have a totally different engine all together.

BMW had mentioned last year that they will go TT across the model line-up and that will include ///M series and X5. Just a matter of time.

Yeah I'm hoping the 4.8 gets the TT for MY2010 along with the new iDrive and low APR rates (looks like that will be around for awhile). Here's to waiting only 6 more months. :beerchug:

Oh man ... Went from an E53 to GS350 to E90 ... to maybe E90 M if they still have low APRs...

From WCF: BMW X5 Facelift Spy Photos - Wearing Different Bumpers


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We are fast approaching that time of year when the BMW X5 (E70) gets a newly refreshed face to keep sales ticking nicely until a brand new replacement arrives in 2012. These pictures taken near the BMW engineering facility in Germany may not be the first spy pictures of the facelift BMW SUV but they are the first to show the car with these two different sets of bumpers.

When comparing the two sets of spy photos, past images of the front bumper show a thin horizontal splitter behind the mesh grille while these new photos place it in front of the grille. Through casual observation the front bumper air intake pockets appear to have a different shape too, but this may be the result of the car's black and white psychedelic camouflage.

At the rear the changes are more acute with the lower centre portion of the bumper showing the most difference. The previous rear bumper pictures showed this part to be quite flat-shaped whereas this one has a trapezoidal diffuser shape in the middle.

With every facelifted model BMW tends to introduce new engines. Among these would be the new 180kW (244hp) 3.0-litre turbo diesel and the 4.4-litre twin turbo petrol used in the 750i. We can also speculate that the new iDrive system with 3D sat nav mapping that is fitted to the 3 Series and 7 Series will appear in the facelifted X5.

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:thumbup:

This one comes in 2010 maybe and the totally redesigned version is estimated to come in 2012? I know no one has a 100% sure answer but most likely the new x5 model will come in 2012 right?

No I think it would be not until Fall 2013. The e53 was a 7 year cycle coming out in Fall '99 and ending Fall '06.

I like it....

Then I guess I will be looking at the e70 shape instead. If the new one would come in 2012 then I could have waited till the newer one.

My dealer told me the only change this fall will be new idrive when ordered with navigation (checked from BMW Nordic, Sweden). The facelift could then be announced in Geneva next year? Hence, WCF news of 2009 end of the year face lift are probably not correct.

With all the spy pics, BMW looks like it's putting the TT engines in for MY2010 along with the new iDrive/Navigation. Seems it would make sense to do the facelift at the same time since it will require cooling intake areas in the front, etc.

> BMW looks like it's putting the TT engines in for MY2010


That's my guess as well, so I'm waiting for the 2010 X5... assuming the stock market doesn't fall any more!

This may come sooner than expected.

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Crap, not those stupid X6 fog lights 'hovering' inside Cayenne Turbo vents.

I just put the pic posted above side by side with the current look asked my wife where car looks better. She liked the current look. To me, the new look lost the "aggressiveness."

It definitely lost something that's for sure.

not a fan of those vents but I guess it's necessary for cooling the new engines. Undecided about the skid plate... but I guess it's better than nothing down there.

What do you mean by sooner than later, on the new April production or will it show up on the 4th April release of the X5 M!

:iagree: What does sooner mean?!?

Don't F1 engines put out 4 times the power with air vents that are a tenth the size of this thing? Looks more like a fighter yet that will suck you right off the carriers deck.

They are probably about the same size actually (most of the airflow goes through the openings at the front of the sidepods) and the airflow through them is greater due to the speeds, plus F1 cars don't spend loads of time sitting in traffic.

April? X5 ///M is coming in fall of this year. Maybe April is for Australia.
Sooner = looking at its FEP looks, it may be coming in spring 2010 as 2011 model which is the model year of facelift anyway.
As rh71 said, the new TT engines need those vents.

Ok, so are we saying based on the latest pics, that the new facelift and possible TT might not be until Spring 2010 ?

From Carscoop:
As well as preparing the first-ever "M" version of the X5 that is due to be officially revealed towards the end of the week, BMW is also tweaking the rest of the range of its crossover model. If you're finding it hard to spot the cosmetic changes in our latest spy photos, we don't blame you as on the outside they are limited to the newly styled front and rear bumpers, the repositioned fog lights plus a different alloy wheel or two - or four if you want to take it literally.

Our Bavarian sources also told us that the 2010 X5 will also benefit from a few minor interior updates including the new trim, some ergonomic optimizations and the addition of some toys to the standard and options list.

In terms of mechanical revisions, it is said that BMW will add to the X5's range the latest version of its 3.0-liter turbocharged straight-six engine that develops 326HP in the 740i (up from 306HP in the 335i and the X6 xDrive35i).



Testing how to burn more gas with fuel tank open. :)

Wouldn't be surprised if those toys are just things that the USA doesn't get yet, but have been standard on Euro cars for the past 3 years.

Upped to 326hp eh? That's probably gonna piss some recent X6 35i owners off...

Wonder what the torque numbers will be like as that's really where the 6cyl is currently lacking.

But no mention of the TT V8 just the 6 cyclinder ? I can't imagine they would still keep the current V8 they have to phase it out to put in the TT--that would make so much sense.

From Auto Express:
Blink and you might miss it! This is BMW's facelifted X5 – but the changes are so small, you'd be hard pressed to spot them. However, with new front and rear bumpers, tweaked lights and trim updates the new SUV will be usefully sharper looking when it goes on sale early next year.

Inside, the cabin will be revised with an increased emphasis on material quality while under the bonnet the engine range is likely to stay the same. BMW will soon be introducing a range-topping M version of the X5 and the X6, which are both likely to get an all-new twin-turbocharged 4.4-litre V8.

^ they were supposed to have white angel eyes too... or is it amber because the HIDs are on?

Dang looks like I got to wait until Sping 2010. :tapping:

It looks like the M-Sport front & rear bumbers!

Why do they have to drive about testing new bumpers? doesn't make sense to me. Is it just to tease us or are they testing new technology?:dunno:

A better question is why a facelift only involves new bumpers?

> Why do they have to drive about testing new bumpers? doesn't make sense to me. Is it just to tease us or are they testing new technology?


Airflow and engine temp.

They had issues with the twin turbo in the 3-series, they probably don't want to repeat the mistake on the X5.

Any guesses on what the new 20" wheel will go on the 2010 4.8 (or TT)sport package ? The initial e53 4.4 sport package had Y-spoke and then they went to a 5 spoke in '04. Since the current is a Y-spoke I bet they go to the 5 spoke that the X6 5.0 has right now. :dunno:

Guys, maybe I am remarking the obvious and/or this has already been mentioned elsewhere but the new X5M shows relatively little update from an appearance point of view (bumpers, lights?, iDrive) compared to the current generation E70.

I do assume BMW would NOT introduce a new top-of-the-line model 1 year before an expected facelift that looks outdated after that facelift.

My point: a facelifted E70 will have at most slightly different bumpers + lights but will not look much different from the current generation E70.

BMW wants the X5M fascia to be different from current E70 X5, like they do with other ///M cars. I agree its minor change to bumpers and light graphics like they did with E60 facelift. The big change is on the interior and under the hood. BMW is working towards having entire fleet with TT engines. So all non-TT engines will be gone sooner than later.

I am curious: when you say the big change is to the interior, what next to the following is expected to change?

- iDrive
- paddle shifters

As a current E70 (4.8i + aerokit + 21" 214) owner I am happy that any facelift is minor so my car does not look outdated after the facelift.

And frankly, I have not warmed up yet to the new X5 M bumpers + painted fender flares. Reminds me a bit of a 5-year old X5 or X3. I think the current E70 styling + aerokit looks better/meaner...

^ Herr that looks like a nice ride - did you ever post pics for it?

I also agree on the look. The facelift so far hasn't been much of anything and the large intakes are actually a step back (though necessary) in my opinion. There have been many vehicles that take a huge step back in terms of looks for the next generation (the Lexus RX jumps to mind). I'm also VERY satisfied with the E70's looks w/ aerokit as is. I think it'll be tough to top when it's time for an overhaul in... what 2014?

Here are two older photos, before I had the front side windows tinted to match the rear side windows. Sorry for the crap quality...


It is essentially the same config (sapphire black, aero, ferric gray 214's) as other members in this forum. It is full option except 3rd row seat and satellite radio and has a hardwired Escort 9500ix. I am pretty happy with it except for some jerkiness of the 6-AT and interior rattles.

The last spy shots:

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ya think?

/cringe @ the looks of the fogs + vents together.

I'm going to be jealous of the TT engines, but function over form on this one FTL.

:iagree:

Looks like the X6 front bumper to me. Makes sense if getting the TT engines. Still think current bumper with aero package is best looking

Not losing too much sleep over the looks of the updated version! Quite happy with what I have.

Also having juts had a 3 series with the new iDrive as a hire car on holiday I don't think the new buttons are that much of an advance...you have lost the ability to hold the controller to the right to select Nav which you can do with the current gen which I think I prefer. The functionality of the iDeive itself is definitely better but I don't think the new controller is that much of a leep forward.

It's not the controller most are wanting it's the new Nav system with HD, MP3 hard drive, new 3d graphics, etc. Check it out on the new 7 series next time you are at the dealer and you will see.

Oh no!

Not sure about that, the e39 M5 came out in 2000 while the e39 line got it's facelift in 2001.

Does anyone have information on when the facelift is gonna be released? I am waiting for the facelift to purchase the x5 and was wondering when it will happen?

Thanks.

Not until spring 2010.

:tapping:

:bustingup

Regarding the park distance control (PDC) sensors: I see only 2 sensors on the front bumper close to the license plate. If you look close, does anyone see the other ones on the lower bumper (black area) in the corner?

Also disliking the turn signals on the mirror..could they make them any bigger?

I see the sensors in the corners, none near the license plate. I think the mirror signals are bogus as they are not symmetrical, probably just there to throw everyone off.

While I love the way the X5-M looks and see a lot of resemblance to the front end, i hate the way this looks....I see a lot of work to clean this up!

It's getting close to the Sep available build dates. Is there any info yet on 2010s?

^^My info is that facelift will be a 2011 model and out by spring 2010.

Any confirmation it will have the around-view monitor? I believe I read the M will have it so it can't be too far off in these guys.

I've been driving my old SUV for a couple weeks since my X has been in the shop and it made me realize that the X's rear visibility is a lot more limited. Cameras definitely help in slow-parking maneuvers.

I am not sure about the around-view but there will be some spill over of tech from new 7. The rear view cam in new 7 is good.

I sure hope so. If the X5 35d I just ordered to be built shows up looking like the latest spy photos, BMW will get to keep my non-refundable deposit :( Because I'll be running to the nearest MB dealer with check in hand.

BTW if I wanted a SUV with gargantuan openings in the bumper I'd have purchased a Cayenne.

Funf Dreisig

Facelift X5 is also coming with new tri-turbo diesel engine with lotsa torque.

And you also would have purchased a 5 or 6 year old dated design in the Cayenne. :yawn:

The tri-turbo diesel would be nice but if it only came with the 'facelift' I'd be looking elsewhere for the replacement of our 2001 X5.

Frankly the size/styling of the current X5 was a stretch for us -- too big and too bulbous. The facelift version would have been a no-go.

Funf Dreisig

New from Carscoop:

We've just landed these fresh spy shots of the extremely subtly facelifted BMW X5 SUV that was caught testing without any camouflage at all. And truth to be said, there's no need for any type of body cladding as the only styling change compared to the current model is the newly designed front bumper with larger air-intakes that house the repositioned fog lights. And yes, the new bumper is identical to the one found on the X6 SAV.

Though that's the only visible styling change on this particular prototype model, our sources state the production model will also feature a subtly revised rear bumper, new alloy wheel designs and updated trim in the interior.


The X5's engine line up will remain for the most part unchanged with the exception of the new 3.0-liter TwinPower Turbo diesel unit that makes 306 horsepower at 4,400 rpm and a peak torque of 600 Nm (442 lb-ft) at just 1,500 rpm while there's also talk about the revised 3.0-liter turbocharged straight-six petrol that generates 326HP in its latest guise, up from 306HP.

2010 BMW X5 Facelift Shows its Face in new Spy Shots - Carscoop

I don't like that frontbumper. Hopefully you can retrofit the pre-FL bumper ...

I like the new (X6) front bumper. :)

I'm still a little confused ... this is the 2011 model for the states, correct? Will the TT X6 engines make it into the X5 (35i and 50i)?

:iagree:

It has the old CCC iDrive controller. I thought the 2010 model was going to have the new CIC iDrive, like the X5M and X6M. :dunno:

boooooooo

Woohoo--can't wait to see these changes !

I can't imagine BMW not putting the X6 TT engines in it considering the front bumper with air flow design. Lemans--can you enlighten us or maybe nobody knows for sure at this point ?

I really don't like the new bumper design. If I had to get one, it'd be a dark color so people cannot differentiate between the body or bumper grills.

Why are they changing bumpers to big X6 like intakes?

2010 is getting new controller. This is just a test mule.

The marketing gang pushed the styling gang around and,
dug into the parts bin, imo. Cost containment, but the
ad copy shills can call it a face lift, tack on 3% and
get a pat on the back, imo.
BR,mD

If that is the case then the Finance guys should push that they drop the I6, V8 and crossover the TT X6 engines to the X5 to keep costs down. Why have 4 engines when you can have 2 ? We will see I guess.

Nice try, but don't think so MD. They are still diferent from X6 as the headlights corners are not side/upwards pointy.

I think the sheet metal screws covered in duct tape give it a real manly look :cool:

Seriously, these latest pics don't seem right. On this mule it looks like they literally used sheet metal screws and duct tape to graft an X6 style bumper onto an X5 by slicing the lower part of the X5's fender off. So it is unlikely they are testing final fitment, fasteners, rattles, etc. What exactly are they testing with this mule -- drag coefficient, cooling, etc.?

Funf Dreisig

X5 Facelift
 

Just received this info from some local contacts.The biggest exterior change for the coming X5 Facelift....short of the X6 front and rear bumpers will be the rear hatch.BMW will go to a single piece rear hatch.No more two piece unit.BMW is very much into value engineering...given the auto sales meltdown.The 2 piece rear hatch complicated the build process and I'm not sure many customers will miss the smaller lower piece.The TTI6 gasoline engine will be an option on the facelift X5.Not sure about the V8 engine lineup....more to follow.Thanks! PalBay

wow finally the TTI6.

about the rear hatch = minivan here we come!

BMW is moving more and more towards crossover image for X5.

From what I hear is that BMW's M-sport packs(optional) in future will also come with some power boost/ engine upgrade and not just cosmetic stuff.

WOW. Thanks for providing yet another great reason to get a 2009 X5 before they go out of production.

Funf Dreisig

Facelift is not coming till 2011 model. BMW shows official facelift pics 2-3 months before actual release. We have not seen any official pics yet.

Thanks for the clarification.

So now I can go back to a mild case of 2009 "buyer's regret" hoping that not too many things change for the better in the 2010 model. :)

Funf Dreisig

Palbay strikes again
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Please have the TTV8, please have the TTV8 . . .

The 2010 NA ordering specs have leaked out but the X5 and X6 (non-M) are missing. Something is going on .... ;)

Hmmm :tapping:

Based on these pictures ... only one thing to do ...buy 2010 model NOW...

Nobody pointed that the fog lights went missing on the latest pics. So far we have seen 3 different designs on facelift test mules. 2 with different front bumper designs and this one with no fog lights. Go figure....;)

BMW engineers after testing in Death valley:
1st: Hey! the TT engine gets very hot, any ideas how we can keep it cool?
2nd: Get rid of those f#%^ing fog lights.

Earlier pic posted above:
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Interesting things I saw in the X5 M options that may also be changed for the "regular" cars:

• Soft close automatic doors as an option
• Rear view camera w/ Top View like the 7 Series
• The new Driver Assistance Package

Lemans x5. Fogs don't seem to be missing just moved!

I have soft close doors on my car that was built in 2007....or are these something extra ?

:thumbup:True. Point is they keep changing the front layout. They changed the initial bumper design and now the fog light placement. Still not sure what the final look will be on facelift X5. BMW has become very unpredictable in the last 12 months. I cannot say for sure what will be coming out and when with certainity as was the case in past.

Is not an option for X5 for the US (2007-2009) Though the US X6 had that as an option.

I think your wish might come true.I have seen facelift test mules for the X5 within the last two wks with Xdrive50i badging affixed to the car.The mules also have a newly designed exhaust finisher....somewhat quad shaped.It all points to the TTV8 for the facelift X5.More to follow.Thanks.PalBay

Pic's of the new xDrive50i TTV8 X5.Thanks! Palbay

woul love the TT V8

Excellent recon as usual...thanks agent Palbay :thumbup:

Your very welcome.Palbay

is it me or does the back light look like 7er

PalBay--thanks for this update you're da man ! It's all coming together nicely for the TTV8 to debut this Spring. :thumbup:

Glad to help.Thanks! Palbay

Excellent job, Palbay.:thumbup:
I have heard that graphics on tailights will change to like the new 7 and 5GT.

they can be fitted on the current e70 correct?

Piece of cake.;)

I found my next mod after the new iDrive controller.....

Do the new bumpers as well while you are at it. :D

I thought about it, but it's too involved. It would require front fender and lower rear quarter panel replacement. Plus, I like the rear bumper, but not the front.

If I get any 100% info that this is the TTV8 im selling my x5 !! :banghead::saad:

Do you think this badge is of some all new 5.0i NA engine? :rolleyes: :)

What more info you want?

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:bawling: the TTV8 is much much fun than the NaV8 .

BMW is moving towards all TT engines in their line-up. NA engines eat too much gas as against TT engines. Not good in these times.

I really hope they fix the Sport Package Rims, Both the 35D and 30i rims don't look good to me. It also looks like LED turn signals have been added.

Taillight graphics are changed....like the new 7-series taillight CELIS LEDs.

Came across this link:

BMW North America is looking to cut prices of its diesel-powered vehicles

Assuming it's for the 2011 since the 2010's pricing is already out for the USA (insert Canadian dig here). :rolleyes:

If they do it, I suspect they will do it by putting the twin-turbo gasoline six into the X5 as the US base model, raise the X5 base price using the TT HP increase as justification, and leaving the Diesel price the same.

They won't want to make the reduction too obvious, as moves like that tend to irritate your prior customers that bought it at the higher price.

I assume BMW NA could justify lowering the diesel premium by showing Germany how it would assist in meeting CAFE requirements in the future.

They are coming with tri-turbo diesel as xDrive sd model with facelift

Now you're talking.. will it be 3.0ssd ? I'll upgrade to a tri turbo it seems...

Just one s for sports. No 'sports supercharged'. :)

tsd? tds? sdt? ..........

but then seeing as all my Xs have been debadged why should I give a ......

;)

I plan on debadging my X5 when it I get it in a few weeks. What do you do about the rear BMW roundel? From the parts list it looks like removing it will leave a couple of small holes. Or is it really just held by adhesive?

Car still has roundels, just the big X5 on the boot and the 3.0si from the side has gone. Makes it much cleaner in my opinion, especially now that you get all that xdrive30sd or some similar rubbish written on the side......

(technically it is No Model Designation)

to me when i ever i see that theres really only one reason and it wasnt to help it look better...

Frankly I'd like to get rid of the roundels, as there are a lot of morons with keys and rings that love to scratch-up BMWs when they see them in parking lots. And since they typically aren't too bright, without the roundel, many of them can't recognize a BMW, particularly an SAV/SUV.

Since I didn't buy it to impress people, I'd be just as happy if people thought it was a Ford, Toyota, or some other SUV.

Get some stick-ons from ebay of different names to sick on top of roundels. If you remove the whole thing than you will have holes which looks bad.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to disagree - I believe it looks a LOT better. Frankly the current moniker along the side is just tasteless. It harks back to the mid 80s when the car companies tried to get as many letters on the back of their cars as possible. It just ended up looking stupid.

The big X5 on the back looks awful as well. It is too big and looks like an afterthought (and it did on the E53 too). Plus it's bloody obvious it's an X5 to anyone who actually cares.

I would even debadge an X5M.

Interesting post at the bottom of this site
New Spy Photos: BMW X5 Facelift

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BMW sales says:
September 10, 2009 at 10:36 pm

For clarification, the X5 will indeed get the two turbo gas engines currently offered in the X6 stateside. These are available around March 2010 production I’m told. The hatch/tailgate combo will remain the same as current, not a single lift hatch. However, if you look at the pics, you see the turn signal is moving from the bottom corner up to the top corner; very interesting.
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Wonder if that "BMW Sales" user is truly an inside person.

Cheers

I was thinking of that, but having a hard time finding one that fits the round format. Any suggestions? If you've seen something appropriate on e-bay, I'd appreciate a link.

:thumbup:

Those are old spy pics Palbay posted above. We already know about TT.

Here's new meat, new M-sport pack and X5

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Yeah - it was more the comment that was posted on that site yesterday that I thought maybe people were interested in...thought maybe it was really a "BMW Sales" guy :)

Palbay is the best !! we knew about that days ago :p

cant wait to change my rear taillights to the facelift-ed !!

What the hype of the new taillights? Will it be a simply retrofit?

Odd, how they are amber colored on top.

Sweet pics!

And why are taillights not lined up--I'm guessing it's just it's a test mule but it looks funny.

New taillights have new 7-series like wide CELIS LEDs.

Retrofit these exhaust tips too. ;)

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With the E70 seating 7 people and the X6 introduction, I think BMW was rethinking the concept of the original X5. The Original X5 was the midle sized sporty SAV with a remarkable character... today, unfortunately, the X5 is turning into a mini-van with 7 seats (no matter how they try to hide this fact with putting new bumpers with stupid jet intakes) while the X6 SAV coupe is taking all the sporty attributes to the extreme with 4 seats...

Why I say unfortunately? because I think that many people like me identified with the E53 because it was the middle sized sporty SAV having-it-all... today i feel the X5 has become so huge for me (I don't need 7 seats and a lenght almost 5 meters) and the X6 is so agressive and non-practiacal for me (3 tons of steel to transport 4 people)...

So BMW did a huge mistake in leaving the ground to Porsche cayenne to take over the customers of E53... I believe they were dragged into this mistake by Japanese cars like Nissan pathfinder/Armada and Nissan Infinity FX... what they did not realize is that the Original X5 had its success because of its character, so why follow Nissan/Infinity strategy for huge living room / extreme sporty? who said it's better??

For me, I would have created the X7 to have the 7 seater luxurious SUV and the X6 to compete with the FX, while keeping the characeter of teh X5 unchanged...

With the expanding X family, the new X3(coming early next year) will be bigger than current one(to differentiate more with X1) and X5 will be the family hauler. People who do not like X5 will have X3 or X6 to choose from.

The M Sport Package is getting a facelift too??? :dunno: It just came out in April '09 (U.S.)!:wow:

IMO, if they don't make the X5 bigger (which I'd agree would tarnish the sporty X5 image), I can't see it competing seriously as a family hauler. I always thought they added the 3rd row as an afterthought just to be able to contest that they have one. Sure it will seat 7 in a pinch and that's why it works for some people, but the biggest turnoff to me is how small, flimsy, and low the seats are - they don't belong in a luxury vehicle. I know they had to do it to avoid a box-like shape of a minivan in the rear, but it's quite comical not to be able to see your kids in the 3rd row from the front. They're staring at the upper half of the 2nd row, and without entertainment. An X7 introduction would be necessary to get a proper 3rd row accomplished but then it would be a scary image for a BMW.

wow already a facelift... prefacelist will be rare now..... btw I SMELL AMBER in that taillight! :confused: please not again! + the celis better look nothing short of awsome, ive been let down by the 7&3
Msport + chrome trim= :doh:

It came to US in 2009. But M-sport pack has been out since 2007.

ALL european BMW's have Amber Tails, I'd MUCH prefer it if it came back. And if they can't make LED indicators, then they are just moronic. But thank god they're finally putting the blinker in the right spot rather than at the bottom. The current design looks like the kid with an ass for a head on Family Guy

if anything we should go back to clears, i found red looks like nothing but a safty hazard. clear + amber = WIN!

BMW will be giving its X5 a light facelift for next year which includes new front and rear bumpers and, for the first time, the introduction of a new one-piece tailgate.

BMW also tends to introduce a new engine with each new model or facelift, though for the X5, all the possible choices form a very short list.

One of these possibilities is a hybrid powertrain since BMW has been exhibiting concept ActiveHybrids. An X6 hybrid has even been spied doing tests. It could also just be the 4.4-litre twinturbo V8 in the upcoming X5 M but M cars are treated as separate models in Munich.

The new X5 is expected to make an official entrance before the end of the year.

Source: http://www.caradvice.com.au/41709/2010-bmw-x5-spy-pics/

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:iagree:I'll drink to that!

I like the clamshell design, I'll get grumpy if it goes to 1-piece.

^ I read somewhere within the last 2 days that it will remain 2 pieces now... forget where :( Also, it doesn't look like much but the 1 piece hatches are heavier. Lift a minivan hatch recently? Not a huge deal if you have auto-tailgate I suppose. You do have to step back quite a bit as it opens.

If they do go with a 1-piece hatch, I'm glad I got my 2010. I like the 2-piece feature.

Please, please, please have the tt and a two piece hatch. I've waited over a year and a half. Please. I hope this does not sound like begging.

If not it will be a '10 X5M for me.

K

I LOVE the 2-piece hatch. It is quite unique and useful - I can pack in much more stuff without having it fall out :)

They need to stop screwing around... the "improvements" are turning me off the new model...

I hate to derail this thread but why do people like the two piece hatch so much? Not saying it's not to be liked, just wondering why.

Tim

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I think a one piece is too minivan-ish...the 2-piece is functional for me as i can also use it as a seat to tie my boots when snowboarding.

Dealer input from buyers/potential buyers is that auto tailgate is only half-assed job as you still have to open the bottom part. The competition does not have that issue.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

I also get the point about being able to pile stuff in without it falling out.

Tim

my thoughts exactly!

The half gate is a mobile chair, table, picnic/work bench, and gear packer. It also requires a h*ll of a lot less clearence than a one piece. Who wants an auto opener anyway?

This is one feature the X5 has over the competition ... including the X6.

K