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trashheap 05-27-2010 02:42 AM

Hard drive upgrade?
 
I have a 2010 X5 35D for 4 months now, and I have managed to fill up the hard disk with MP3's. Has anyone upgraded the drive in the vehicle with a larger size?

bimmer_buachaill 05-27-2010 03:21 PM

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...hard-disk.html

Sea Doom 05-27-2010 04:19 PM

Ditch your hard drive storage, which has the MAJOR drawback of being impossible to edit without creating multiple "folders" or having to re-load. Better to play your media directly from a [editable] USB stick.

stimulate 05-28-2010 08:01 AM

Or . . .
 
I use a Western Digital Passport 120GB drive plugged into the center console USB port ( I have the iPod adapter 6FL I think)

You must use the short cable but that USB port powers the drive just fine.

I formatted it as FAT32 and I loaded it with both mp3 and WMA Lossless files. I think the WMA Lossless sound noticeably better.

I use a file folders, but as long as the files are properly tagged the iDrive allows you browse by Artist, Genre, Album, etc . . .

Of course you lose the ability to rip CD in the car, but you can load up a ton of high quality music from your computer, iTunes, etc.

For instance Staples carries the WD My Passport 320GB drive for $79.

bimmer_buachaill 05-28-2010 12:22 PM

stimulate - cheap & practical solution and the way I'll go. Now I just need to re-encode a bunch of my favorite CDs on WMA lossless...

Thank you!

trashheap 05-28-2010 02:00 PM

ok, so if I just plug in an external hard disk into the USB (in my case it is in the glove box) the vehicle will self power the HDD via the USB interface and I can browse the songs, play them, etc without copying them?

DWill 05-28-2010 04:39 PM

What I just discovered about an hour ago, is that the USB in the glove box doesn't power a hard drive.

But the 6FL USB does. YMMV, but shouldn't... :dunno:

trashheap 05-28-2010 06:28 PM

Sorry, I'm new here, what is the 6FL USB? Is that another interface on the vehicle?

DWill 05-28-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVGoldendog (Post 744932)
Sorry, I'm new here, what is the 6FL USB? Is that another interface on the vehicle?

It's the USB port that is in the center console and is part if the iPod/iPhone integration kit that doesn't work to charge the iPhone very often and is therefore all but useless to me. ( sorry had to throw that in to vent ).

But it works with a USB drive and now I know it works with a USB hard drive too. So now I can stop carting aroub the 400.00 wire and start using a 60.00 USB HD. :)

bimmer_buachaill 05-28-2010 09:39 PM

Picked up the 320GB that "stimulate" recommended from Newegg tonight for $87 including shipping. Available in various colors to suit your taste (match your paint!).

Newegg.com - WD My Passport 320GB, Western Digital My Passport Essential 320GB

p.s. newegg reviews indicate problem with VCD software but latest software from WD seems to have fixed the issues.

trashheap 05-29-2010 01:43 AM

so I don't have a USB port in the center console (no IPOD options were selected) so I am guessing if I put in a USB HDD into the glove box it won't provide power to spin the drive, right? I guess that put's me back at the begining of the thread, any way to upgrade the built in HDD to a larger size?

bimmer_buachaill 05-31-2010 10:10 AM

You should be able to buy a USB hard drive enclosure that takes a 12V DC power supply. For wiring, you may be able to find one with a cigarette light adapter already but if not, you could easily make your own with a cheap cigarette lighter adapter piece.

e.g. Walmart.com: Inland u-Jam IDE -USB 3.5" Hard Drive Enclosure: Computers

jammit 10-14-2010 11:56 PM

Looking for some help on playing music from a USB key in the centre console from iDrive (2010 idrive).

I have a full 16G USB key, and each time I start the car, iDrive takes about 10 minutes to index the USB key before displaying the available music files for playback.

Does everyone have the same problem, or is there a way to do this so that iDrive doesn't re-index everytime? I'm downloading music files to the USB key via windows media player.

I won't bother with the idrive hardisk if I can get this working without an extended delay each time I start the car.

bimmer_buachaill 10-15-2010 11:58 AM

I keep the hard disk inside the car and don't take it in/out each day. It starts up within 10 seconds in most cases and immediately continues where it left off. Not surprising it would take a little longer than solid state storage like a USB stick.

I can't stress how much I love the USB hard disk and how well it works. Thanks again to stimulate on pushing me that way.

jammit, I suspect what's happening for you is that every time you stick the USB stick into your computer, there is some kind of update happening on it. Then when you stick it into the BMW, it realizes there are changes and needs to scan the whole stick for changes.

After it does the index once, can you try stopping the car, taking out the key, sticking it in and starting again. What happens? My expectation is that it would work within seconds.

jammit 10-15-2010 11:04 PM

I've had a closer look at this problem:
I leave the USB stick plugged in between trips. When I start the car it takes 2 minutes to start playback of the last song. At this point I can access all the songs in that album or folder. It takes 5 minutes to be able to access all content on the USB stick.

If I turn-off the ignition and lock the car, it starts again on the 2/5min load time. If I don't lock the car, it starts playback instantly

The 2/5min load time is a big difference with the reported speed of the hard drives - 10 sec for playback?

I'm using a kingston USB with nominal 80Mbit/s read txfer. The WD passports would be at least 6times faster at 480Mbit/s assuming BMW uses USB2.0 - although this is another iDrive spec I can't find documented anywhere.

It looks like using a USB stick is the problem. One other possibility for the loading delay could be the file format.

I just synced my USB stick to Windows Media Player - I do not copy/paste the music folders & files. Not sure if this would make much difference though.

bimmer_buachaill 10-16-2010 09:39 AM

When you have a look at the files on the computer, are they organized by artist and album or in one big directory? Only other thing I can think of.

jammit 10-16-2010 10:31 AM

files are organised by artist/album on the PC & USB stick. Is this the same on the portable harddrive?

bimmer_buachaill 10-17-2010 10:20 PM

Same as me.

So I checked things more carefully today. I think it is in fact taking a long time to read all the files on car start. However, I never bother using the by artist, album etc. I just browse the directory to play albums one at a time (maybe you use playlists?). Anyway, you can browse the directories immediately and also it will continue from where it left off very quickly.

jammit 10-17-2010 10:32 PM

Looks like there are a number of considerations when using an external USB device - it is not as simple as first thought:

If using USB stick: - start playback of current song takes 2 minutes and loading of full song-list takes 5 minutes
If using USB disk: - start playback of current song takes 10sec? and loading of full song-list several minutes

It is possible to search the directory structure once initial playback has started, but fully indexed artist/albums/songs on iDrive takes longer.

Once other consideration I've noticed is that voice command/music search doesn't appear to work for the external drives.


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