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rh71 12-20-2010 06:36 AM

reminds me of underbody rust prevention they sell you just before you get your keys.

Diesel Guy 12-20-2010 08:58 AM

Ard.....and you're in Germany why?

Meeting with BMW engineers to design a dipstick or temp gauge ?

Merry Christmas....you're missing all that snow back in CA !

J.Belknap 12-20-2010 09:44 AM

YouTube - Fargo - I told ya I don't want the gosh darn True-Coat!


edit - That said, here's the real deal: www.rejex.com

ard 12-20-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Guy (Post 789291)
Ard.....and you're in Germany why?

Meeting with BMW engineers to design a dipstick or temp gauge ?

Merry Christmas....you're missing all that snow back in CA !

Last minute business, and not BMW.:thumbup:

You cannot believe the snow here!!! I'm sure they are covering it on TV, especially the airports, but it is pretty unusual.

But here's the thing: tonight I was driving up to 200kph with other drivers WHO KNEW HOW TO DRIVE!!! It was such a liberating experience...ice, snow in places- not 200 all the time, but driving at the limits of conditions (and it was brutal, reduced lanes, freezing fog, -10C, a few accidents) but just hammer down, keep right, keep moving, don't be stupid.

5 series diesel too, 8speed auto. VERY nice car. 800 km in 3 days. really an amazing car. used about 75 liters!

Sheraton Frankfurt tonight, leave tomorrow AM. Christmas at home.... AA willing.

:)

A

MINIz guy 12-20-2010 08:17 PM

I remember reading about Cilajet on detailing forums. The argument was that there is the technology and science to create such a sealant that will last and last. The only flaw to this is that since only one application is needed, the company will not make as much profit on one-time sales. Companies would much rather make a 1-2 month sealant and keep selling than a wonder product that will lead to their own demise.

I'm guessing this will last longer than the competition but won't last as long as they advertise. It could probably compete against Optimum Product's Opti-Coat

ard 12-21-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MINIz guy (Post 789434)
I remember reading about Cilajet on detailing forums. The argument was that there is the technology and science to create such a sealant that will last and last. The only flaw to this is that since only one application is needed, the company will not make as much profit on one-time sales. Companies would much rather make a 1-2 month sealant and keep selling than a wonder product that will lead to their own demise.

I'm guessing this will last longer than the competition but won't last as long as they advertise. It could probably compete against Optimum Product's Opti-Coat

That is an interesting canard... (deliberately misleading, sounds true but is not)

So it seeks to provide a plausible explanation for pricing and marketing...and along the way is blithely creates an absolute assumption that the stuff must work.

So lets go.... HOW does it work? Lets not say "some technology"... you sound like an idiot. (no accusation here, just hyperbole) There are molecules and they get arranged, and their arrangement creates properties... cliajet claims they have a 'technology' that is (a) always shiny, and (b) impervious to scratches?

Really?

Because here is how shine works:
Shine is polish. Shine is the lack of surface defects. Shine is essentially the reduction of microscopic surface defects such that you have a surface that is microscopically all one layer. Period. No coating 'makes' shine, except to temporarily fill in microscratches and create the illusion of a mono-molecular layer (ie water sheen on paint).

Do people realize this?????? you need no wax or polymer or sealant or ANYTHING for the best shine. Anything you put onto this surface will reduce the shine. (Evidence: front surface vapor deposited mirrors, uncoated)

So does this cliaject somehow create a diamond hard finish? (Impossible, it would crack) or is it a polymer/liquid, such that it 'self seals' and scratches (impossible it would eventually wash off). Or maybe it does both, depending on how smart the buyer and desperate the salesman?

It is a scam.

BGM 12-21-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ard (Post 789527)
That is an interesting canard... (deliberately misleading, sounds true but is not)

So it seeks to provide a plausible explanation for pricing and marketing...and along the way is blithely creates an absolute assumption that the stuff must work.

So lets go.... HOW does it work? Lets not say "some technology"... you sound like an idiot. (no accusation here, just hyperbole) There are molecules and they get arranged, and their arrangement creates properties... cliajet claims they have a 'technology' that is (a) always shiny, and (b) impervious to scratches?

Really?

Because here is how shine works:
Shine is polish. Shine is the lack of surface defects. Shine is essentially the reduction of microscopic surface defects such that you have a surface that is microscopically all one layer. Period. No coating 'makes' shine, except to temporarily fill in microscratches and create the illusion of a mono-molecular layer (ie water sheen on paint).

Do people realize this?????? you need no wax or polymer or sealant or ANYTHING for the best shine. Anything you put onto this surface will reduce the shine. (Evidence: front surface vapor deposited mirrors, uncoated)

So does this cliaject somehow create a diamond hard finish? (Impossible, it would crack) or is it a polymer/liquid, such that it 'self seals' and scratches (impossible it would eventually wash off). Or maybe it does both, depending on how smart the buyer and desperate the salesman?

It is a scam.

Ard has spoken and put a "wrap" on this topic :bustingup


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