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Silver X5 04-26-2011 07:46 PM

ESS Tuning for a 4.8
 
Hi guys

Has anyone bought or heard anything about these?

N62B48 DirectFlash Performance Software - ESS Tuning | BMW Tuning Parts | BMW Racing, Tuning, Aftermarket, Performance Parts | Engine Power Chips | Performance Upgrades Chip

I'm looking at getting one as I'm a bit disapointed with the performance of the X5 4.8. I also want to get the auto change charactistics changed...the hanging in gears going up hill is rediclulous. Has anyone had any experience with this?

thanks in advance

TahoeM3 04-27-2011 08:35 AM

I don't have any experience with that software, but it looks like it's only good for about 10 hp. I think the 4.8 is pretty quick as is, but I doubt that software will make any noticeable improvement...maybe 0.05 seconds in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile (say from 5.9 to 5.85 for 0-60 and from 14.7 to 14.65 for the 1/4). If you want a real improvement, you'll have to trade up to the 50i or M.

brian5 11-12-2012 11:56 AM

Just wondering if any X5 4.8i owner has done this upgrade. It's not cheap for what it offers...

Here's the updated link for ESS N62B48 E-Flash Performance Software

soldmystang 11-12-2012 04:58 PM

Typically these things aren't worth much without a CAI and a cat-back upgrade at the same time. I personally wouldn't spend a grand for 10 hp.

jeremym 11-12-2012 05:47 PM

I get it, ECS is trying to take advantage of the customers who want more from their 4.8, and who don't care about costs. But what about us normal people? $1000 for 10-15 HP gains...and perhaps better throttle response (click the shifter to M/S mode...)?

IDK, I don't buy it. I think, when my transmission is in M/S mode, it's a drastic difference over regular automatic mode, that's good enough for me. If I wanted more power, I would trade it in for a 50i or an M.

Shame on you, ECS, for charging $1000 for a piece of hardware that can only be used in one vehicle, and only giving 10-15 HP. If it was $300, I'd be interested...but even that is a large price to pay for 10-15 HP.

Suge206 11-13-2012 11:51 AM

its priced like they really dont want to sell it.

ard 11-13-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by soldmystang (Post 906447)
Typically these things aren't worth much UNLESS YOU CAR IS FORCED INDUCTION. I personally wouldn't spend a grand for 10 hp.


Fixed:thumbup:


There is just not that much there with NAs...an engine is a gas-fueled Air Pump. Improve the pumping efficiency, and that increases HP. (The DME adds fuel to match the airflow achieved...)

A CAI and a catback are typically not hugely restrictive at peak HP and therefore will still be modest.

With SCs and turbos, you just code more boost, and voila, 20, 50, 100HP can be had. (Yes, its more complex than that, but the point is that you can alter the air pump via software, hence the large potential gain.)

Given DINANs pricing, 995 seems reasonable, no?

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jeremym 11-14-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremym (Post 906456)
I get it, ECS is trying to take advantage of the customers who want more from their 4.8, and who don't care about costs. But what about us normal people? $1000 for 10-15 HP gains...and perhaps better throttle response (click the shifter to M/S mode...)?

IDK, I don't buy it. I think, when my transmission is in M/S mode, it's a drastic difference over regular automatic mode, that's good enough for me. If I wanted more power, I would trade it in for a 50i or an M.

Shame on you, ECS, for charging $1000 for a piece of hardware that can only be used in one vehicle, and only giving 10-15 HP. If it was $300, I'd be interested...but even that is a large price to pay for 10-15 HP.

To the above, I meant ESS...not ECS. SORRY!

brian5 11-14-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 906553)
<<snip>>

With SCs and turbos, you just code more boost, and voila, 20, 50, 100HP can be had. (Yes, its more complex than that, but the point is that you can alter the air pump via software, hence the large potential gain.)

Given DINANs pricing, 995 seems reasonable, no?

A

I agree with ard (I actually did that?) that the pricing doesn't THAT expensive compared to the super-charger options... There is just no other performance tune for this E70 4.8i in USA (except for Upsolute who are nowhere near me).

So, seeing as it's birthday, I decided to get myself as a birthday treat :) Should have it installed by weekend...

jeremym 11-15-2012 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian5 (Post 906724)
I agree with ard (I actually did that?) that the pricing doesn't THAT expensive compared to the super-charger options... There is just no other performance tune for this E70 4.8i in USA (except for Upsolute who are nowhere near me).

So, seeing as it's birthday, I decided to get myself as a birthday treat :) Should have it installed by weekend...

I have a bridge I can sell you for $1. It'll be yours, all yours! You can even rename it from its current name, the "Brooklyn Bridge."

In all seriousness, good luck. Next time, just send me $1000 cash.

Noodle555 11-15-2012 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver X5 (Post 820767)
...the hanging in gears going up hill is rediclulous. Has anyone had any experience with this?

I hate this also, especially when cold. Not sure to give more gas to get to next gear or just back off as engine is still cold. Either way hannging in gear at 4k rpm on a cold engine is nuts!

brian5 11-15-2012 07:42 AM

I received the ESS tuning cable and software yesterday. Downloaded my ECU software; sent it to ESS and they sent update back. Installed that easily (using Win 7 -- their software doesn't work on Win 8 yet).

Only drove a little last night but the driving felt so much smoother under (moderately) hard acceleration. Did not appear to have hanging in any gear. Going to try to test this more on the weekend.

******** Removing all the exchanges with jeremym ************
*** I'm annoyed with myself for even posting exchanges with him ***

jeremym 11-15-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brian5 (Post 906896)
And to jeremym, what ridiculous comments you make... Do have any idea how much money BMW owners on upgrades/accessories -- frequently cosmetic? $1,000 is nothing to many of them...

Your arrogance is overwhelming.

jeremym 11-15-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian5 (Post 906997)
Not worth a response apart from I don't think you understand "arrogance".

I don't? Alright.

Quote:

Arrogance: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions
Quote:

And to jeremym, what ridiculous comments you make... Do have any idea how much money BMW owners on upgrades/accessories -- frequently cosmetic? $1,000 is nothing to many of them...
You bought it, so $1000 is "nothing" to you, I assume? No matter what dollar figure is "something" or "nothing" to someone, the fact that you even brought it up shows arrogance.

Source for definition: Arrogance - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

jeremym 11-15-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brian5 (Post 907017)
jeremym, Go back and read the thread to see who started the s*** talking...

I'm not, nor have I been, shit talking. After all, this IS the internet--am I not allowed to post my opinion? Many others have posted their opinions in this thread....why don't you have a problem with them?

Perhaps you're a little embarrassed that you just spent $1000 (although, that's "nothing" to you, right?) on 10hp. Maybe that explains the defensive attitude.

Grow up, chief.

jeremym 11-15-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brian5 (Post 907019)
jeremym,

Your posts have been personal. I have no problem with other's opinions on products.

I only speak the truth, man. I think it's arrogant to say that "$1000 is nothing" when you have no clue what $1000 is to people here. Bringing up money on a forum that has nothing to do with money is just arrogant and belligerent. You basically said that $1000 is nothing to BMW owners and thus, since you bought the $1000-for-10-hp-chip, you implied that $1000 is nothing to you. Bragging about money is arrogant. Period.


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