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edco 10-11-2014 11:47 AM

2011 E70 came with square 18" RF set up. Do staggered 19's bolt on?
 
Greetings
My 2011 came with factory 18"s with run flats ( I think they are style 215).

Post winter, I would like to upgrade to 19s or 20s which mostly come staggered on the X6.

Can anyone confirm that these are a straight bolt on, and do not require any mods, nor will it change anything (maybe a little with the speedo), that will come back to haunt me later...

Also, even though I have run flats, I needed the extra security of a spare so I bought a "kit" which includes the donut, jack, and handle. In a pinch, could I run a donut with 19s or 20s for a short time?

Many thanks....

ed in NJ

PAX5 10-11-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edco (Post 1012083)
Greetings
My 2011 came with factory 18"s with run flats ( I think they are style 215).

Post winter, I would like to upgrade to 19s or 20s which mostly come staggered on the X6.

Can anyone confirm that these are a straight bolt on, and do not require any mods, nor will it change anything (maybe a little with the speedo), that will come back to haunt me later...

Also, even though I have run flats, I needed the extra security of a spare so I bought a "kit" which includes the donut, jack, and handle. In a pinch, could I run a donut with 19s or 20s for a short time?

Many thanks....

ed in NJ

19" or 20" OE BMW wheels will bolt on, but you have to look at:
- off set value of wheel
- center bore size (you X5 has 74.1mm CB)
- bolt pattern will be the same: 5 x 120mm

Your tires will be more expensive - $300 to $400/ea depending ...

If the wheels you are looking at came off a X6, they will have different size CB front and rear. You will need to modify the wheel (preferred method is boring out: from 72.56 to 74.1mm), or using "hub centric adapters" (less preferred method).

What style nr, brand and size wheels you are considering? Show pic or link if you have one.

edco 10-11-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basora (Post 1012093)
19" or 20" OE BMW wheels will bolt on, but you have to look at:
- off set value of wheel
- center bore size (you X5 has 74.1mm CB)
- bolt pattern will be the same: 5 x 120mm

Your tires will be more expensive - $300 to $400/ea depending ...

If the wheels you are looking at came off a X6, they will have different size CB front and rear. You will need to modify the wheel (preferred method is boring out: from 72.56 to 74.1mm), or using "hub centric adapters" (less preferred method).

What style nr, brand and size wheels you are considering? Show pic or link if you have one.

Thanks
Here's a link to an example for sale on eBay: 20" BMW x5 x6 M Xdrive Wheels Rims Tires GTS 5 | eBay

ed in NJ

scorpioy 10-11-2014 10:36 PM

Does off set value of wheel really matters? If yes, what size should it be for e70 none M type?

scorpioy 10-11-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edco (Post 1012124)
Thanks
Here's a link to an example for sale on eBay: 20" BMW x5 x6 M Xdrive Wheels Rims Tires GTS 5 | eBay

ed in NJ

In the link, it shows
Front Size: 20" x 10
Rear Size: 20" x 11

What is 10 and 11 here?

edco 10-12-2014 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpioy (Post 1012127)
In the link, it shows
Front Size: 20" x 10
Rear Size: 20" x 11

What is 10 and 11 here?

Fronts are 20" (diameter) by 10" wide
Rears are 20" (diameter) by 11" wide

I may be wrong but I don't think it's X5 vs X6. The issue seems to be if they are "M" fitment the hub diameter is NOT the same front and back (and I am not looking to find a machine shop to drill the rears for the larger center bore.)

See the specific comments by the seller in the link below...

BMW E70 x5 E71 x6 20" M Double Spoke 299 Wheel Set | eBay

PAX5 10-12-2014 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edco (Post 1012137)
... and I am not looking to find a machine shop to drill the rears for the larger center bore.

BMW E70 x5 E71 x6 20" M Double Spoke 299 Wheel Set | eBay

Very easily done. My local machine shop does it for $40/wheel with excellent results!

Different style wheels, but same Hub Bore issue(s). Check out All BMW wheel styles X | BmwStyleWheels.com for wheel selection and offset (ET) values.

Jyohay 10-12-2014 07:49 PM

To correct the incorrect data:X5 e70 non M has 74.1 hub all around
X5M x6m and x6 non M all have 74.1 front but 72.56 rear.
Only the rear would need to be bored.


Fyi oem 19" e70/e71 wheels are also square.
Due to similar rolling diameters the change in speedo is hardly noticeable I wouldn't be worried about that

MRV99 10-17-2014 03:29 PM

The e70 through its life cycle, has OEM rim sizes in 18", 19", 20", 21". If you are choosing an e70 X5 OEM non-M based rim then it will be a direct bolt on. The only small issue you will encounter is moving to the a rim size which is 20 or 21, the tires will extend past the fenders.

All of the OEM wheels have very similar rolling diameters and you will see very little speedo variances which most BMW's are 2-3 MPH on the low side it will not affect you.

Jyohay 10-17-2014 03:36 PM

actually i find that the 20"+ wheels do not extend past the fender.
with my 19" i was running a 25mm spacer in the back, which is still a lower offset than the OEM 20", a 13mm wider stance.
my 19" were just flush with that spacer.
the reason the factory requires the wider flares is bc BMW wants the wheel recessed by 10mm, like on all of their cars.
its standard practice to have the wheels inset, for safety blah blah.
most people get spacers to make them flush.


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