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Steved 03-04-2008 04:03 PM

I sat in the X6 today
 
I was over in Geneva and took some time to sit in the X6 and discuss BMW's plans with some of their lead engineers.

Firstly the space in the X5, I am 6ft 1in and sitting in the rear seats I could pass 4 fingers above my head without touching the roof, so it feels in terms of headroom exactly the same as a 5 series sedan in the back.

Some people have suggested that the X6 feels cramped in the back, it does not. A far better way of describing it is that it feels cosy and intimate. Rear seat passengers can lean their right arm on the door and their left on the raised centre armrest, making it feel like a throne and far from second best to sit in. There isn't room for a 5th seat, that would definitely make the X6 seem cramped, whereas with just two seats in the back it feels fine.

Even sitting in the front feels different to an X5, you sit lower and the knee pads on the centre console are quite prominent, again adding to the cosy feel. Speaking to BMW reps the windscreen is canted at the same angle as the X5, however it feels more steeply raked. All in all the inside of the X6 is not cramped, but it is more intimate than the X5 which is somewhat of a plus point for me. I also took a look through the rear view mirror and did not find any problem with seeing objects behind. Sure, it's not as good as the X5 in this respect but it is 'nothing' like the Z4M Coupe I used to own.

The X6's on the stand were in VR and White, one a x50i and the other an X35d. I preferred it in VR, it looks classy and I also preferred the Style 259 wheels on it rather than the Style 214 wheels which was on the white one.

One interesting point of note was that since the X6 carries a little more weight in the rear axles (due to its new differential) BMW decided to reduce weight in the hubs, so they developed a unique lightweight aluminum hub (not available on the X5) just to counteract this extra weight.

Other snippets worth of note, BMW do not intend to share the 35i or 50i engines with the X5, they are determined to maintain a differentiation between the two models for at least the first 2-3 years, but they do not rule out fitting them later in the E70 X5's life-cycle. Same goes for the X6's new rear differential, BMW tell me that they will not fit this to the X5 and instead want to reinforce the different characters of both models. The engineer that I spoke to was at pains to stress that the X6 was not an X5 Coupe, but instead a different model.

So, all in all I'm glad I've now seen the X6 and had the chance to finalise my spec. It was getting loads of attention on BMW's stand, beating the M3 Convertible that was parked nearby. BMW representatives seemed genuinely pleased that I had chosen to buy one and were keen to tell me that it does not feel like a 2 tonne SUV instead they say it has the agility and feels the same weight as a 5-series sedan. I can't wait to drive one.

-Dash- 03-04-2008 04:11 PM

which ones are the 259's?? i think i got mine in 214

Steved 03-04-2008 04:15 PM

Style 259s are the 5-spoke ones in the launch brochure. I stood looking at them both today and ultimately its a matter of personal preference, but with the 214s initially the X6 looked like part-X5 and part-X6, whereas with the 259s it looked more of a fresh new car. With the 214s it looked like it had borrowed something from the X5, which made it seem less fresh in my eyes.

Also, the Style 259's look big and stand out more than the 214s, which ultimately helped me decide on the 259s. Both wheels look good on the X6, but I felt that the 259s better suited the X6.

sirees01 03-04-2008 04:42 PM

Great write up Steve, did u get that WOW factor when u first saw it in the metal?

Steved 03-04-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sirees01
Great write up Steve, did u get that WOW factor when u first saw it in the metal?

From the front it's not wow, since it looks almost identical to the X5 (I was told that the bonnet is the identical part number as in the X5), but from the rear and sides it really catches your attention.

I like the fact that it doesn't look that big, it just doesn't occupy the same space in your eyes as an X5, and that makes it look smaller than it is. It really looks and feels like a more compact and elegant X5 (despite BMW telling me its not an X5 coupe). I spent a good hour or so looking round it and can't wait to see one on the road. Having now seen it in the metal I cannot believe that it won't be a great sales success, it's really appealing unless you need the X5s space.

Boston X5 4.4 03-04-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steved
From the front it's not wow, since it looks almost identical to the X5 (I was told that the bonnet is the identical part number as in the X5), but from the rear and sides it really catches your attention.

I like the fact that it doesn't look that big, it just doesn't occupy the same space in your eyes as an X5, and that makes it look smaller than it is. It really looks and feels like a more compact and elegant X5 (despite BMW telling me its not an X5 coupe). I spent a good hour or so looking round it and can't wait to see one on the road. Having now seen it in the metal I cannot believe that it won't be a great sales success, it's really appealing unless you need the X5s space.

Great write up as always - thanks Steve.
Sounds very promising.

amh 03-04-2008 06:30 PM

Thanks, Steve. Very helpful particularly if they gave you good info on the engines. I have been in a quandary regarding waiting for the diesel or the twin turbo. Bought the V8 and maybe now will put it to rest.

Glenn Mc 03-04-2008 07:33 PM

So VR seems to be the right choice, phew, thank gawd for that :D

LeMansX5 03-04-2008 07:44 PM

Great write-up, Steve and agree with your wheel choice.
From what I heard X5 will get the DPC soon and the new logos and they also plan on the engine upgrades at LCI time. But I agree that they do want to maintain a difference between X5 and X6 and for that reason X5 will not have all the 'sporty' features as X6 at the same time. More like when X6 gets new features X5 gets retired/some features, but not exactly.

Steved 03-04-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5
From what I heard X5 will get the DPC soon and the new logos and they also plan on the engine upgrades at LCI time. But I agree that they do want to maintain a difference between X5 and X6 and for that reason X5 will not have all the 'sporty' features as X6 at the same time.

I hear what you're saying LeMans, but the senior BMW engineers I spoke with seemed certain that DPC would not feature on the X5 for several years to come. In their words "BMW have no plans to offer it currently on the X5". They seemed pretty sure, and referred to the differences in CofG in addition to their wish for differentiation between the models. I suspect it would need set-up differently for the X5, so that's at least a further development cycle before it could be made available. I guess we'll see.


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