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Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 871089)

Sometime competition changes things. The fact that Bentley and Lamborghini are introducing an SUV puts pressure on Rolls Royce. And if there is a RR SUV, then X7 is pretty much given as it will be bigger than X5 and BMW will share share parts/chassis across both SUVs.

X7 is being given serious consideration by BMW board and will happen. Jaguar is also considering a SUV, combined by the fact there is strong demand for big SUVs in China and US, is increasing the probability for X7 and X8.

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The launch of the Lamborghini Urus and the friendly reaction of the crowd to it encouraged BMW to work on a few new projects. The priority will be to proceed with a new SUV, something bigger than the X5 and the hideous X6.

According to a well-informed source, the X7 might see daylight in 2015. In the plans the X7 will be a large 4×4 coupe, mimicking the lines of a coupe and mixing parts of a Range Rover, we need to remember here that BMW overtook the British car maker a few years ago. For now, all we know is that the new X7 should have components of the 7-Series and the X5.

After the X7 the X8 is also expected. The X8 will eventually be more like a coupe version of the familiar car and less an improved version of the X7; in any case these are all rumors for now, anything that’s being said out there is just speculative.

Finally, the gap between BMW and Rolls Royce should become shorter, and the completion of project CS-II might be a reality. Based on the Concept CS, the CS-II could be a super-GT, large, super-luxurious and made from carbon fiber, something super lightweight. This is also just another project, but one of those that might become a reality sooner than later.

BMW Thinks Big – X7… X8… and more! | Motorward

Came across this post. Looks like X7 spy shots here:
BimmerBoost - BimmerBoost spots the 2014 BMW X7 testing

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Originally Posted by motordavid (Post 566347)

...Europa...
GL,mD

I know this is old and way past due... but I thought it might still be funny.

Yes, a X7 would be big and bulky and would consume a lot of fuel. It is good that there is a lot of liquid Methane on Europa that will help fuel it.

:stickpoke

Based on the BMW naming process, an X7 would undoubtedly be larger than an X5 - but would it be as large as some of you fear it may be? If we look at Audi, for example, doesn't the Q3 compete with the X3 and the Q5 with the X5 and the Q7 with...the X7? I'd assume the X7 would probably be the same size as the Q7 with a 3rd row seat.

I suppose one could say that the X1 competes with the Q3, the X3 with the Q5 and the X5 with the Q7 ... but are those really accurate comparisons? These wouldn't appear to be in the same class. Or would they? Or are they?

Am I wrong about that? Any opinions?

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Originally Posted by Bayerische E53 (Post 931993)

I suppose one could say that the X1 competes with the Q3, the X3 with the Q5 and the X5 with the Q7 ... but are those really accurate comparisons? These wouldn't appear to be in the same class. Or would they? Or are they?

Am I wrong about that? Any opinions?

X1 is the same weight as the Q3.

X3 is the same weight as the Q5.

X5 is slightly lighter than the Q7, 2.7" shorter wheelbase.

Those would appear to be the match ups, at least to me.

If one needs a (usefull) seven passenger vehicle from Germany, perhaps a MB Sprinter would be a good choice.

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 932019)

If one needs a (usefull) seven passenger vehicle from Germany, perhaps a MB Sprinter would be a good choice.

:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 932019)

X1 is the same weight as the Q3.

X3 is the same weight as the Q5.

X5 is slightly lighter than the Q7, 2.7" shorter wheelbase.

Those would appear to be the match ups, at least to me.

:iagree:Audi's competition is typically numbered higher than a comparable BMW. I think it is the little brother syndrome. :nanana:

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 932019)

Ah. Thanks for that info. As you can tell, I'm not too familiar with the Audi wheelbases and weights. I always thought the Q3/Tiguan was the X3's rival. Problem solved.

What you say about the Q7 helps get a better grip on the X7. To make a German SUV larger than a Q7 would really be contrary to logic. A car marginally larger than a Q7 would start to get awfully close to Tahoe territory (albeit not quite as tall or as long; but still - the idea of a "good handling" SUV of that size just doesn't make any sense).

I'm with you - if one needs a useful seven-passenger German vehicle, the Sprinter would be the way to go haha. For what it's worth, Sprinters are pretty serious (and capable) machines - especially the ones with the dual real wheel and 4WD setup. There are quite a few privateers who have taken dual-rear-wheel/4WD Sprinters as support trucks on the Dakar over the past few years.