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Old 08-29-2005, 01:34 AM
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Hands down: the best tire shine!!

Well i was at pep boys gonna get some stuff to clean up my x5 when i got my new wheels and two things caught my eye..

the meguiars NXT line (which is now my fav.) has two tire shine products.. one is the tire dressing/spray and the other is called a tire "coating" i was debating the difference for far too long when i decided with the coating one, since ive never used one before.. the results were amazing.. i would recommend this product to anyone and everyone who likes shiny tires! I have pics of the results if anyone wants to see..
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Well i was at pep boys gonna get some stuff to clean up my x5 when i got my new wheels and two things caught my eye..

the meguiars NXT line (which is now my fav.) has two tire shine products.. one is the tire dressing/spray and the other is called a tire "coating" i was debating the difference for far too long when i decided with the coating one, since ive never used one before.. the results were amazing.. i would recommend this product to anyone and everyone who likes shiny tires! I have pics of the results if anyone wants to see..
Post some pics!
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Yeah, let us know about how well the coating "sticks" to the tires. The "coating" seems to imply that it will not fling all over the lower portion of my truck. I have yet to find a product that I didn't have to wipe my tires down with a cloth and still later clean off my paint after my first drive. Lately I've gone with a silicon aerosol spray. Seems to stick to the tire more. Good thing I prefer more of a matte finish.
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no.. the coating actually lasted me a couple weeks.. driving through puddles and what not.. its kinda like a spray paint sorta coating that adheres to your tires.. and dries dry to the touch and shines.. rather than the tire shine thats all greasy and ends up all over the place..
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Lately I've gone with a silicon aerosol spray. Seems to stick to the tire more.
Wouldn't that silicone age the tire? I had always associated silicone with premature cracking of the sidewall. Sure, it looks good when it goes on, but it degrades performance over time. Or is this a different formulation?
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not too sure.. its the new meguiars NXT.. so i doubt it will have any ill effects on the tires performance..
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For what you pay for your tires, I would recommend that you go with a UV inhibitor like Aerospace, Lexol, etc. vs grease and other silicons that over time break down the rubber compound.

But hey they're your shoes... do as you please.
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There is a lot of information on this topic floating on the web. Some of it seems contradictory. For example, I've read in some places that you should not use silicon, but w/ little information as to why. But, from what I've put together, silicon itself doesn't seem to harm tires. Products that contain petroleum distillates and solvents can harm tires (my detail spray doesn't contain them, or so it says). These cleaners can break down the rubber. Unfortunately, I think a lot of the well known tire dressings contain distillates/solvents, giving them their greasy feel. Real Shaka has a point about silicon, though. From what I understand about it, silicon doesn't offer much in the way of UV protection. Maybe I'll try my silicon spray as a "topper" after I coat it with something w/ UV protection.

Please, if anyone can provide any better or more technical information, I (and others) would appreciate it.
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heres the link..

http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/meg-g-13115.html

it says synthetic polymers.. dont know if that is silicon or not..
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I trust the guys at 303 as they7 have a loyal following of propeller heads, fed engineers and aerospace brainiacs...

WHY ARE TIRES BLACK?
The sidewalls of tires which are parked for extended periods dry, check and split. Annually, tire "dry-rot" is a multimillion dollar problem for RVers, trailer boaters and owners of classic cars. This engineering memorandum is a scientific examination of the whys of the process and explains in detail how 303 Protectant™ is an answer to the tire dry-rot problem.

Tire manufacturers blend into the tire polymer certain chemical ingredients which inhibit damage from ozone and ultraviolet light, the main environmental degradents of tires and all other types of synthetic and natural rubbers. Ozone is an odorless gas, but is commonly thought of as the "electric train smell". Though more severe in cities and manufacturing centers, ozone is part of the are we breathe everywhere on earth,. Hastened by the hazardous effects of UV light, ozone eventually causes rubber to dry and become brittle no matter the locale.

ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT: The need to protect rubber against UV damage is why tires are black. For this purpose a common type of UV stabilizer called a ‘competitive absorber’ is used. Competitive absorbers work by capturing & absorbing harmful UV light wave energy (instead of the adjacent molecule of tire polymer. . .that’s why it’s called ‘competitive’). Competitive absorbers have the added ability to convert harmful UV light wave energy into heat so it can dissipate harmlessly. ALL tire manufacturers use the same competitive absorber, carbon black. . .an extremely inexpensive compound. All other UV stabilizers are prohibitively expensive. This is why tires are black and why tires are not available in designer colors. All UV stabilizers are sacrificial, meaning they are gradually “used up” to where they can no longer protect against UV damage. As carbon black loses the ability to do its job, it turns gray. This is why rubber grays as it ages.

tire.gif (50920 bytes)OZONE: Tire manufacturers use waxes to protect against ozone. When tires are in use (regularly running up and down the road for example) they flex. Flexing causes the protective waxes to migrate to the surface where they form a physical barrier between the air (ozone and oxygen) and the tire polymer. This process
...the waxes migrating to the surface of the tire during flexing...is called “blooming”. When tires are not regularly used (a parked RV, boat trailer or classic car, etc.), blooming does not occur. Ozone begins eating away the protective wax and before long reaches the tire polymer. Often by this time, the surface carbon black has lost its ability to protect against UV. With UV light and ozone working in concert, degradation starts. The tire dries, checks and will eventually crack.

OTHER DEGRADANTS: Petrochemicals and silicone oils can remove the protective waxes and increase the rate of degradation. Common automotive “protectants” and “tire dressings” are typically devoid of UV stabilizers of any type and contain petrochemicals and/or silicone oils which dissolve away the protective waxes and can actually aggress the sidewall. In the event of warranty sidewall failure, one of the first things tire manufacturers look for is evidence of the use of these types of products. When found, this is often cause for not warranting the sidewall failure.

303 FOR TIRES: 303 contains no petrochemicals or silicone oils and does not remove the protective waxes. 303 is actually absorbed into tires, delivering its unique set of powerful UV stabilizers into the tire polymer, supplementing and surpassing the UV protective action of the carbon black, and leaving a long-lasting, flexible protective finish that is water repellent, detergent resistant and will not attract dust. Ozone must eat through the 303 before it can get to the wax. 303 is an extremely effective anti-oxidant and anti-ozonant. 303 is the longest lasting, most powerful protective and beautifying treatment for tires and all other synthetic and natural rubber.

TIPS FOR TIRES: 303 treated tires have the rich, waxy, almost vinyl-like, dark black look of new rubber. 303 tires look and feel like brand new, not greasy-new. FOR MAXIMUM TIRE BEAUTY: Spray 303 directly on a clean & dry tire until the sidewall is thoroughly wet with 303. Without touching the rubber, easily wipe away any 303 overspray from the rim. Do each tire the same way. After 10 - 20 minutes, wipe around each tire once or twice with a dry rag to pick up any unabsorbed 303. Your tires will have the look and feel of fresh new rubber. FIRST TIME USE: On sidewalls that are excessively dried out, two treatments may be necessary the first time. To note: A) The regular use of 303 can entirely prevent the UV and ozone damage associated with parked tires. Reapply 303 every 20-30 days. B) 303 is 100% safe for all types of wheels, all alloys. Wheels regularly treated with 303 repel water, road grime and brake dust and clean up far easier than untreated wheels.

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