Toyo Proxes S/T First Impressions

[Boston X5 4.4]

Short(ish) generalized answer
- non-staggered, non-directional, symmetric can be rotated all round front and back without taking the tire off the wheel
- non-staggered, directional, symmetric can be rotated front to back on same side without taking the tire off the wheel
- staggered, non-directional, symmetric can be rotated left to right but not front to back without taking the tire off the wheel
- staggered, directional, symmetric can be rotated left to right but you need to re-mount the tires on the rims (inside out so to speak)
- staggered, directional, asymmetric can not be rotated

I think the Toyo Proxes are staggered, directional and assymetric (last one above) so you can't (or shouldn't) rotate them.

[vinuneuro]

Typo. LF-RF.

[LeMansX5]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

Typo. LF-RF.

That means changing the wheel for directional tire. And changing wheel everytime you rotate is not good for integrity of tire. Those tires will be short lived.

[vinuneuro]

Originally Posted by LeMansX5

That means changing the wheel for directional tire. And changing wheel everytime you rotate is not good for integrity of tire. Those tires will be short lived.

How many times do you think someone is going to do this at $100 a tire swap?

The tire can be flipped on the same wheel, and then used on the opposite side. As long as the bead is bead is not damaged there's no compromise in the integrity. And that's what the expensive machines are used for.

[LeMansX5]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

How many times do you think someone is going to do this at $100 a tire swap?

The tire can be flipped on the same wheel, and then used on the opposite side. As long as the bead is bead is not damaged there's no compromise in the integrity. And that's what the expensive machines are used for.

Any more than twice during the life of tire is bad. Sometimes even a 2nd change can compromise.

[dkl]

Plus, each time you remount/rebalance the tires trying to get a few more miles from them, you risk rim damage from the process. Just be diligent with monitoring your tire pressure and buy new tires when needed.

[broknlgs24]

ok, i am confused. are unidirectional and directional the same thing?
because as per Toyo's site, the tires are unidirectional.

[vinuneuro]

Originally Posted by broknlgs24

ok, i am confused. are unidirectional and directional the same thing?
because as per Toyo's site, the tires are unidirectional.

Yep, one/single direction.

[blueagle]

I am using Toyo Proxes tires in my 19" rims. It has been about 5 months and driving under hot tropical conditions, I ahve not encounteres any noisy problems or fast treadwear. Tire size is 255/50/r19 on all 4 tires. Would like to go staggered but road conditions in the Philippines are not suitable especially if I use my X5 as a daily car. I drive an 02 X5 3.0d euro.

[ibfwm]

Originally Posted by Michelle

I've driven about 40 miles with the new rubber. Here are some of my first impression:

• All I have to say is -- what noise? Many warned me about a loud road noise from the tires, but my Diamaris were A LOT louder than the Toyo Proxes!
• These things grip the road like no other! On and off ramps were amazing last night!
• They look so beast! The 87's look even wider from the rear with the Toyo Proxes!

The guy at the tire shop suggested having them "flipped on the rim" every 10,000 miles. (They take the tire off of the rim, and turn it around so that what was on the inside is now on the outside, to even out the uneven wear caused by the negative camber.) Sounds like a good idea to me. Does anyone else have this done?

Michelle,
What was the deciding factor that made you to go with the Toyo's? What other tires did you consider?
Thanks!!