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Old 10-16-2011, 09:08 AM
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coupes will have even name, e.g. M2, M4, M6
Sedan will have odd name, M3, M5, M7, etc.
1M will become M2 coupe
M3 coupe will be M4.....
I hate this idea. The 3 Series and especially M3 have become such a benchmark that they are nearly a brand in themselves. BMW M has already offended loyalists with the switch from high-revving NA engines to forced induction - why do further damage by changing a cherished name? I understand the need for progress, but is there no respect for history & tradition left at BMW anymore?

That said, this new 3 is a pleasant evolution of the E90 in sedan guise. The current E92 is a great looking coupe - hopefully its successor doesn't wear the F30's face.
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hopefully the new 3 series no longer have the fuel pump failures.if this is the case ill be more then happy to continue to the BMW life style.one question the.for the interior pics did i see CLOTH? this is a BMW not a VW.Are they actually going to offer cloth seats in this line up?
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:12 PM
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for the interior pics did i see CLOTH? this is a BMW not a VW.Are they actually going to offer cloth seats in this line up?
BMWs have offered cloth seats forever. Not so much in the US anymore but they are still popular in Europe & elsewhere. I liked my cloth seats in my 325e & 325i. Comfortable, high-quality & heated seats aren't required.
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Very nice, esp the Sport model...though the X5 lower lights/valance is sort of GM'ized, across model lines.

If I was in mkt for a sedan, and if that trunk held a couple sets of clubs, and if I had ~$50+Gs fall in my driveway...
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I hate this idea. The 3 Series and especially M3 have become such a benchmark that they are nearly a brand in themselves. BMW M has already offended loyalists with the switch from high-revving NA engines to forced induction - why do further damage by changing a cherished name? I understand the need for progress, but is there no respect for history & tradition left at BMW anymore?

That said, this new 3 is a pleasant evolution of the E90 in sedan guise. The current E92 is a great looking coupe - hopefully its successor doesn't wear the F30's face.
Agreed, it would be a terrible decision to take the iconic M3 name away from the coupe and I really hope they don't go through with it.
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BMWs have offered cloth seats forever. Not so much in the US anymore but they are still popular in Europe & elsewhere. I liked my cloth seats in my 325e & 325i. Comfortable, high-quality & heated seats aren't required.
never in my life(here in the US) have i seen a BMW with cloth seats
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:43 PM
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never in my life(here in the US) have i seen a BMW with cloth seats
I have seen many and owned two. Maybe I'm older than you or have seen more BMWs (the only brand I've ever owned).

Lately most US models have either leather or leatherette.

The current M3 is offered with a combo cloth / leather in the US (it is the default on bmwusa.com).

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Old 10-16-2011, 07:51 PM
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this is true, after looking at the X and the 3 series it looks like the cloth leather combo isn't an option that is offered often
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I owned an e30 with cloth. I know cloth seats were an option on the e46 M3. Would have loved to find one of those as well as sunroof delete. Cloth holds you in the seat better. It also doesn't get as hot in the summer or cold in the winter. It should be an option here on new models, imo.
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I would prefer it were an option on more models here too. In large part, it's a marketing decision based on what the majority of the public perceives as a luxury. The light gray leather in my X5 hasn't been an issue in the summer but I prefer the cloth in the winter. And, as you wrote, the cloth holds you in the seat better.
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