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Old 12-29-2010, 09:54 PM
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Forget about the horsepower gain or top speed number, I want to see the shape of the power curve. Based on the graphs I've seen thus far for the other tunes on the market, the power is power/torque gains are all in the low-mid range rpm band.
Of course off the line in 1st gear you'll feel the increase, however, when it comes to rolling/passing acceleration you'll only be in the upper rpm range and will benefit very little. Check out the plot for the other unnamed tunes, then go drive your car and monitor the rpm range where you'll want to feel the power/torque increase, then review those same graphs.
Creating low-mid range power is easy on a factory turbocharged engine (most are mildly tuned/boosted in this area for drivability), however, creating additional top-end power can be very difficult, especially on an engine that's been optimized for top-end/ responsive power. .
Very well said.
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The X6M needs the power increase in the upper rpm range. At about 100 mph the vehicle doesn't have the ability to pull away from other cars that were literally blown away off the line.
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Someone below the Mason Dixon line buy this, will ya?

I want to hear first hand impressions before I spend $3K (and can't enjoy it until the snow clears).
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The X6M needs the power increase in the upper rpm range. At about 100 mph the vehicle doesn't have the ability to pull away from other cars that were literally blown away off the line.
That isn't a hp problem, though. It has more to do with the large frontal area, and the 0.38 drag coefficient.
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Correct, but its always a HP (and gearing) resolvable problem. Give the X 1000hp and see how fast she pulls from 100mph

I saw a pickup truck run 200mph in the standing mile. Stock Z06 goes about 170 or so in the same distance. Truck looked like a brick. Truck had 1000+ hp to the wheels.
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Correct, but its always a HP (and gearing) resolvable problem. Give the X 1000hp and see how fast she pulls from 100mph
Or one could drive something that isn't quite as much of a brick....
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Or one could drive something that isn't quite as much of a brick....
The X5M drag coefficient of 0.38 isn't that 'brick-like'.

My Z06 is .34 Cd by way of comparison.

Believe it or not

It's mostly about (gearing and) HP.




Edit - THIS is brick-like at .54 Cd


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Dinan done.

Fortunately getting it for delivery. Butt dyno not available.

Can anyone chime in on how this is?
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The X5M drag coefficient of 0.38 isn't that 'brick-like'.

My Z06 is .34 Cd by way of comparison.
'Brick like' referred to frontal area as well as drag coefficient. Look at your photo of the two vehicles side by side.

Anyway, I think the X5M is a very impressive vehicle. I just think that high speed runs will be naturally limited by the aerodynamics.
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'Brick like' referred to frontal area as well as drag coefficient. Look at your photo of the two vehicles side by side.

Anyway, I think the X5M is a very impressive vehicle. I just think that high speed runs will be naturally limited by the aerodynamics.
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