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Old 09-27-2011, 08:31 PM
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I will post the entire email trail.
It is quite amusing. The guy selling has not given me an address or phone number.

he asked for my contact info and I gave him false info.
Now he claims he forwarded it to Paypal and they will contact me with info on depositing the money. Of course he claimed it is fully refundable if I decide to return the truck(on his dime)
I know what is next. A fake email with a Paypal logo with details on sending money. then Poof, he is gone.
here is the emails so far:
Start at the bottom. That is my first email to him.





Hi Jeff,
Great! I will forward your info to PayPal right away and they will send you an invoice with all the instructions on how to purchase my X5. You will have to deposit the money with PayPal, they will hold your payment until you get the suv and you inspect it for 5 days. If by any reason you don't like it you can immediately send it back on my cost and PayPal will send all your money back. Once i get PayPal's confirmation that the payment has been sent i will begin the shipping process right away.


Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:24:19 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 2011 BMW X5 M
To: [email protected]

Jeff Wayson
431 Bogert rd
Ridgewood, NJ 07450

908-***-****

Done deal, send the car.




From: amber zimmer <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: 2011 BMW X5 M

#yiv1185143445 .yiv1185143445ExternalClass #yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268 .yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268hmmessage P{padding:0px;}#yiv1185143445 .yiv1185143445ExternalClass #yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268 .yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}Hello Jeff,
Please give me a little time to explain you the process of this transaction,
As I told you in my first email, i divorced, i got a new job and moved to Omaha, Nebraska. Before leaving I had prearranged the deal with PayPal so my presence isn't necessary. The Suv is located in Omaha at the shipping company, ready to be delivered. The Suv will arrive at your address in 3-5 working days. The shipping cost is included in the total price of the Suv! You will have 5 days to test it and inspect the Suv prior to make any purchase and if by any reason you find something you don't like about it you can send it back on my cost. So if you want to make this deal I need the following details from you:
full name and address
phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to PayPal and I will proceed this transaction. PayPal will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller. Waiting your email with the requested details.
Regards!!


Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:38:08 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 2011 BMW X5 M
To: [email protected]

I am in NJ. Depending on where you are, I can fly out this week.
I can bring a dealer plate and if all is well, i will drive it home.

Let me know where you are and of you can pick me up at the nearest airport, then I will make flight plans

Please send me the autocheck.

thanks
jeff



From: Amber Zimmer <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:42 PM
Subject: 2011 BMW X5 M

#yiv1185143445 .yiv1185143445ExternalClass #yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268 .yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268ExternalClass #yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268ecxyiv774574696 .yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268ecxyiv774574696hmmessa ge P{padding:0px;}#yiv1185143445 .yiv1185143445ExternalClass #yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268 .yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268ExternalClass #yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268ecxyiv774574696 .yiv1185143445ecxyiv47138268ecxyiv774574696hmmessa ge{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}Hi Jeffrey,
How are you? It's nice to see so much interest for my '11 X5 M. The vehicle is in perfect shape, has never been smoked in, no scratches, never been involved in any accidents and it has clear title free of any liens or loans. The mileage is 9,834 and I'm letting it go for $42,500.
If you want I can also provide you an autocheck report(which is the same thing with a carfax).
Because of my job I recently changed my location, but let me know where are you located and I will gladly meet you for an inspection if you're close enough.
P.S. Below you can find more info about my car:
VIN: 5YMGY0C53BLK27030
Engine: 8 cyl
Transmission: Automatic
Fuel: Gasoline
Waiting for your reply.




if the vehicle is still under factory warranty, I will take it. i can come up this weekend and pay for it. Do you have title in hand? Let me know












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Old 09-28-2011, 04:56 AM
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I received two emails from a site:<[email protected]>

They look pretty decent. but I have been using Paypal for over 12 years and KNOW what emails look like. There was even a transaction number.

It did list an address and a phone number.

Name:Amber Zimmer
Address:

306 S. 95th St.
Omaha NE 68114

United States

If you agree with the terms of the transaction listed above, please call PayPal Customer Support Center toll free at : +1 (877) 278-9167, and a verified agent will confirm your transaction and send you an email with all the instructions on how to pay for your item.
You can also contact PayPal for requesting payment instructions by replying to this email with your phone number, we need to call you to verify all the information.

I sent both emails to Paypal for shits and giggles and they confirmed they are scams.
If anyone wants the actual emails, leave me an email address and I will forward them to you.

Where this guy messed up was the price was too low. he should have never used a Paypal angle.
He should have said payment pending upon inspection, but then try to steal the delivery charge from you. He would have better chances of people falling for that.

This name and address and number may be legit, since he is asking for a bank transfer??
Anyone in that area?
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:11 AM
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I received two emails from a site:<[email protected]>

They look pretty decent. but I have been using Paypal for over 12 years and KNOW what emails look like. There was even a transaction number.

It did list an address and a phone number.

Name:Amber Zimmer
Address:

306 S. 95th St.
Omaha NE 68114

United States

If you agree with the terms of the transaction listed above, please call PayPal Customer Support Center toll free at : +1 (877) 278-9167, and a verified agent will confirm your transaction and send you an email with all the instructions on how to pay for your item.
You can also contact PayPal for requesting payment instructions by replying to this email with your phone number, we need to call you to verify all the information.

I sent both emails to Paypal for shits and giggles and they confirmed they are scams.
If anyone wants the actual emails, leave me an email address and I will forward them to you.

Where this guy messed up was the price was too low. he should have never used a Paypal angle.
He should have said payment pending upon inspection, but then try to steal the delivery charge from you. He would have better chances of people falling for that.

This name and address and number may be legit, since he is asking for a bank transfer??
Anyone in that area?
Good pickup.....makes no sense why he would not make it sound more legitimate....he stood a better chance at someone falling for it if the price was close to what the truck was worth...

Well, there might be someone out there who will fall for it....
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:17 PM
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Just a quick update:

I called the 877 number and no one answered. Funny, doesnt paypal have 24 hour support??LOL

and ten minutes ago, a clown calls me from this number:661-584-4136

He says, "did someone call Paypal about a a car??"
(is Paypal such a small company, they know about this car deal??LOL)
I play along and mention that i am ready to do a bank transfer.
Then i ask him how come he needs one??? Paypal has never asked me for one. and i can do a CC transaction.
The phone goes silent.

Now I call back and it is busy.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:41 PM
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This is highly entertaining. Donho, thanks for keeping me LOLing on such a terrible week at school.

I want to see if someone in Rochester can try and "see the car"
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:29 PM
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Was bored after playing competitive bridge all morning, so I GOOG Mapped that addy in Omaha: it is a 'house'. (306 S. 95th St. Omaha NE 68114)



Then, I plugged it into a search, and it may be a residence, but an professional illustrator & cartoonist named Tom Kerr; he either lives there, and/or works out of that addy. It ain't no 'Amber Zimmer'.

Illustrator : Tom Kerr : Contact Information : Directory of Illustration

I knew it was a scam back on page 1, and I hate dishonesty...and, sort of like retribution. Everyone should drop a dime to that phone number,

These car scams are almost as obvious as the Nigerian Lotto wins...
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Old 09-28-2011, 05:00 PM
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Everyone should call the 877 number and the 661 number

if it is a burner, use up his minutes
if by chance someone answers, just ask "is this Paypal?"
I would love to meet this clown and give him a nice slap, for being so stupid.
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Can someone post a feedback on that listing in the website so that no one else falls for it...?

Paypal calling back asking about making payment for a car..that is soooo funnnnnny
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The listing is gone.

If someone wants to report it the FBI Internet Fraud Department, I will be happy to send the emails from him and the fake Paypal emails.

I was going to to do it, but you have to submit a ton of info and I am too lazy.
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Having imported my X5 from the US I can tell you that something was reported inaccurate with this vehicle. When it left the US, it had a recorded 10,200 MILES... US always reports in MILES. When the car was imported to Canada (as its must have crossed the border and title stamped as EXPORT by US Customs (as thats 1 documented need for registering a vehicle here) when registering, they ask current mileage. Seems it should be 10,327... probably 127 miles driving it home to Ontario.. this would be converted to 10,327 X 1.6 = 16,524.... so looks like they LEFT OFF THE 1.. intentionally???

Anyways, BMW canada will not warranty the car until it is completely checked by them so not sure what this person is doing.

Hope this shed some light on possibilities...
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