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Old 12-21-2006, 12:15 PM
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OK...I am sure every husband in this forum has lost his PANTS at one time or another... or at least every SMART husband. Give the guy a break.
Yes, every now and then, but never over an automobile purchase. I'm sure the folks over at the LEXUS FORUM will be happy to give him a break!!
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:24 PM
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Sometimes we count the votes, sometimes we weigh them...

If yourCEO is going be driving the new car, "most of the time",
I would suggest you acquiesce. If it's your only car and, shared,
well, you can lean a little harder.

You stated you are in your 30s...lotsa time ahead of you for
"your car", imo.

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How long did you say you have been married.

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Yes, every now and then, but never over an automobile purchase. I'm sure the folks over at the LEXUS FORUM will be happy to give him a break!!
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How long did you say you have been married.
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:49 PM
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If you have been married for 10 years congraulations. Take it from some one who's been married 30+ years you learn to give and take. Believe me when i say you never say never when it comes to a woman. If you don't know why right now believe me when I say you will learn. In the meantime ease up. The time will come when you will need a break.


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Yes, every now and then, but never over an automobile purchase. I'm sure the folks over at the LEXUS FORUM will be happy to give him a break!!
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No disrespect to wives and their car selection process, but it's actually very simple. I decided I wanted an X3, our first SAV/SUV. I told her my feelings. I conceded to make a list of all cars in that class and in our price range. We narrowed the list down together. Finalists were Volvo, Acura, BMW. The Volvo is a piece of crap--no need to test drive. We drove the MDX and the X3 on the same night (MDX first). X3 won hands down and if we'd have had the money, we probably would have bought the one we drove that day. At the right moment, I let her know that I would take her old car (I call it the unmentionable) and she could have the new one. Done deal.

This poster simply went about it the wrong way. I'm sure he said things like, "but don't you want to be cushy, comfortable and driving comsumer reports best rated vehicle?" Instead, if he really wanted her to drive an X3, he should have approched it using words like "ultimate driving machine" "german engineering" and "drives like a sports car."

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If you have been married for 10 years congraulations. Take it from some one who's been married 30+ years you learn to give and take. Believe me when i say you never say never when it comes to a woman. If you don't know why right now believe me when I say you will learn. In the meantime ease up. The time will come when you will need a break.
If ???? yes, and thank you. Congrats on your 30+ years. In this day and age that is a great achievement.
Now, our friend here seems to like the x3 better.I dont' mean to be hard on the guy , but this is a bmw forum and I'm a little partial. What ever car they choose is fine with me. I'm just endorsing the product I love. He can take my opinion and throw it out the window. I just hope it's the x3's window!
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Now, our friend here seems to like the x3 better.I dont' mean to be hard on the guy , but this is a bmw forum and I'm a little partial. What ever car they choose is fine with me. I'm just endorsing the product I love. He can take my opinion and throw it out the window. I just hope it's the x3's window!
I too endorse the product above all others! Personally, I think Toyota builds junk because virtually all of my experiences with them have been bad. I obviously think the X3 has a great balance of utility, sportiness and value (or I would not own 2). When picking the X3 we never even considered anything else.

Recently my wife and I began discussing the replacement for her X3. Her position is that she refuses to consider anything other than a BMW. Is it pantless of me to capitulate and get her another BMW??? I prefer to see that as good luck!
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She may have a point about what she likes. What seems to be missing is the X3 list you should have made up for her consideration. That list should include all the factual reasons you feel she should consider the X3 as a better buy.

Do your research and Keep in mind those factual reasons must include what will appeal to her. Now add in safety, crash test reports, resale value, free maintaince, German engineering ect. Remember your trying to convince her of all the reasons that are important to her not you.

Print these reason out for her to read over. When shes says "but the RX330 yada yada yada", agree with her because her opinion is valuable. But redirect the conversation to those areas that she views important with the positive factual aspects of the X3.

Re-inforce the fact that her opinion is important and also key in on how you will trust her to make the right and intelligent decision. Let her know that it's easy to allow buying cars to become an emotional decision when in fact it should be a decision based on facts. No matter how it turns out she will feel valued, and she may change her mind based on your kind direction and your ability to provide all the needed facts to make an important decision.


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I had a tread debating RX350 or X3 and decided to go with the RX350 (not me but my wife).

We test drove the X3 and RX350 last weekend and I loved the X3...Wow...what a ride and handling...it hugged the road beatifully. My wife liked the handling and power of the new engine. With prem. package, 18" rim and Xenon headlights came upto $45100 including tax + ttl. ($1000 discount).

While I loved the X3 my wife liked the smooth ride of the RX350 better. It was a little more spacious and more quite than the X3. Also it had more options as standard than BMW. FWD with NAVI came up to $43500 including tax + ttl. ($3500 discount).

Lexus didn't have the car we wanted so we put a $500 deposit for a mid-January delivery. Not having the car yet is making me wonder whether I should change my mind.

My concern is that RX350 will have a model change in early 2008 and a face lift within 3 months for the 2008 model. Of course, the price will not be lucrative as of right now but still kinda makes me wonder if I should jump on it or not. If I take a 2008 or 2009 it will easily take me around upper $40K.

Reasons my wife chose the RX are 1. my wife likes the comfortable ride, 2. Lot of options (Navi.), 3. reliability, 4. a bit spacious than X3, 5. power liftgate (she really loves this feature). 6. large discount ($3500 vs. $1000).

Why I hate the RX, 1. women's car, 2. plain driving, 3. single tailpipe, 4. newer model coming, 5. interior out of style.

Why I like the X3: 1. engine, 2. simple interior design, 3. double tailpipe, 4. full maintenance, 5. BMW!!!


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What do you guys think about my situation?...I do need a car pretty soon and plan to keep it for a good 5~7 years or more.

Should I wait for the 2008 RX350 or abandon the LEXUS and go with the X3 (I think I already know the answer for this one...)?

Age: early 30's
Budget: $45,000 max including tax + ttl.
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Is the RX REALLY more reliable?

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...sb/results.cfm

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http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...sb/results.cfm

Note that the first list of TSB's is for the 06 RX330. There were NO TSB's for the 06 X3 so I did a search for the 05 X3. There were only 3 TSB's, and only ONE was mechanical.

There was one recall for the 06 RX, but none for either the 05 or 06 X3.

Understand what a TSB is...the manufacturer keeps statistics on what parts are failing. When they see enough failures they issue TSB's to help the dealer fix the problem (I have a friend who worked for Nissan writing TSB's so I am familiar with the process). What is the significance of the RX having 3 times more TSB's than the X3? Well, it means that they are having more cars with significant problems.

And THOSE are the FACTS reported by a neutral party. I personally challenge anybody to show FACTS that support that the RX is more reliable than the X3. Not "I had one and it was great..." Not "everybody knows Toyota is more reliable..." And not Consumer Reports because those ratings are based on the consumer's personal subjective experiences. I am looking for some actual hard, neutral, objective facts.

Rant over...
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