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Old 01-19-2007, 01:33 AM
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Yup. At least in Europe and probably everywhere else except the US and Cananda. We get 265 hp here. I really don't understand that .
Different measuring standard. Just like Imperial MPG vs US MPG, the only true measure is L/100km.
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Old 01-19-2007, 12:41 PM
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Yup. At least in Europe and probably everywhere else except the US and Cananda. We get 260 hp here. I really don't understand that .
They also might be getting a different 3.0 liter engine. From what I know, europe gets a 3.0 liter petrol making 272hp that we dont get in the states.
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I think the engines are the same they just produce different hp because of the american regulations.I think the same happens with co2 emissions,some countries allow higher and others lower standards.In Greece Athens diesel engines are not allowed.Each country has its standards.Japan has a hp limit,for instance a subaru sti in greece produces 330 but in Japan less than that.If you visit a bmw dealer you could ask that and how you can increase the bhp of your 3 littre engine to 272.Probably it is only a matter of remapping the engine.

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If you visit a bmw dealer you could ask that and how you can increase the bhp of your 3 littre engine to 272.Probably it is only a matter of remapping the engine.
Unfortunately, BMW stealers in the US don't really do much except care when your next BMW purchase or lease is coming up. They won't even program stuff like convenience close windows and are very willing to void parts of the warranty if you even try and mess with the electric wiring stuff.
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Thanks for the correction AzNM. Guess I was just hoping for an extra 5 . I'm also hoping BMW puts the turbo engine in there by the time I want to purchase another X3!
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Unfortunately, BMW stealers in the US don't really do much except care when your next BMW purchase or lease is coming up. They won't even program stuff like convenience close windows and are very willing to void parts of the warranty if you even try and mess with the electric wiring stuff.
Send complaining letters to bmw in germany.American market is the biggest for bmw and i quess is concerned for complaints.In greece there are not such problems.Why not trying to a bmw workshop and not the official bmw.A mechanic specialised in bmws could do the job or an upgrader.You have one of the best in the world,dinan.
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Welcome to the world of SUVs. If you wanted better fuel economy, you shoud have gotten the diesel version.

My old ML320 pretty much ran at 16-17L/100km everyday not matter what. Long highway trips of over 2 hours would drop it down to around 12L/100km, but nothing any better.

Our E320 4Matic wagon runs about 12-15L/100km in the city and 9-11L/100km on the highway, so it is a bit better but not much.

Diesel is the only way to go. If BMW would allow me to have a 3.0d X3, it would be on order tomorrow.

I AM SURE DIESEL IS BUCH BETTER AND X3 SD! HAS NOW 286 HP!! HOWEVER DIESEL IS NOT PERMITTED IN ATHENS! GOING BACK TO OUR SUBJECT, I AM SURE THAT NEW X3 CONSUMPTION WILL GO DOWN. AT LEAST THATS WHAT I SEE FROM EXISTING OWNERS.
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They also might be getting a different 3.0 liter engine. From what I know, europe gets a 3.0 liter petrol making 272hp that we dont get in the states.


THE ENGINES ARE 100% SAME. IT JUST A DIFFERENT TUNING DUE TO SOME REGULATIONS I GUESS.
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I Tested Again This Weekend; And With D In Highways I Can Have 3800 With About 140 Km ! I Dont Know Which Gear It Uses, But Thats What I Can See. I Think Consumption Started To Go Down.... I Did See An Improvement At 1000 Km. Why So Much Surprise For 4000 Rpms? I Think That Even The Manual Considers 4000rpm As A Safe Max Limit. I Ll Check Again Tonight But I Am Sure. Shall I Mention That I Am Not Talking About Diesel Engine?

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I Tested Again This Weekend; And With D In Highways I Can Have 3800 With About 140 Km ! I Dont Know Which Gear It Uses, But Thats What I Can See. I Think Consumption Started To Go Down.... I Did See An Improvement At 1000 Km. Why So Much Surprise For 4000 Rpms? I Think That Even The Manual Considers 4000rpm As A Safe Max Limit. I Ll Check Again Tonight But I Am Sure. Shall I Mention That I Am Not Talking About Diesel Engine?

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People aren't questioning that 4000 RPM is a "safe limit" (everyone knows BMW engines can safely rev far higher than that). What people are questioning is whether your car is in the proper gear when you are driving at that speed. It sounds like it's not in top gear. Try putting it into manual mode and making sure it is in top gear at that speed, then check the RPM. I find that ours often shifts down and holds a lower gear when it doesn't need to, and I will manually shift it to the highest gear to keep the RPMs lower (and get better fuel economey).
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