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Old 03-12-2016, 09:03 PM
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At the very least I'd hope that a potential buyer of this car looks at the CarFax to see that they're not getting the low mileage car they think it is. And hopefully that opens their eyes so they look at it very closely before buying.


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Old 03-12-2016, 09:26 PM
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Sunny, reliability is not the issue. You're right, it could be dead reliable.
Which is the point of my post.

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I hope you guys never send your parents or significant others out to buy cars by themselves. It sounds like you are okay with shady business practices and place responsibility totally on the purchaser to be aware of all of these things.
I made no comment on the business practices of the seller (however I did mention there were issues...such as the misleading mileage). My response was focused on the un/reliability of the vehicle being sold.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:13 PM
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A little reality check on total loss/rebuild vehicles.

These vehicles attain total loss status when most competent repair facilities cannot repair damage without exceeding value of vehicle.
These shops have high shop rates, partly due to 100s of thousands of dollars invested in equipment to fix vehicles correctly.

Most vehicles that go from total loss to rebuilt title are done in shops with low overhead, limited equipment, and a STRICT eye on the bottom line. A minimum of new parts, cheap China parts and corner cutting are the norm (a build it back just good enough to look nice and sell mentality).

While there are good "rebuilt" vehicles on the market, they are the exception, not the rule.

I'm sure if you asked the seller to split the cost of a real BMW PPI, he would show you the door.
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Which is the point of my post.


I made no comment on the business practices of the seller (however I did mention there were issues...such as the misleading mileage). My response was focused on the un/reliability of the vehicle being sold.
I know. I should have made that clearer in my response. You were solely referring to the potential reliability. However, as Tiag pointed out, that would be the exception rather than the rule due to the reasons he stated.
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I might go take a look this weekend. If I do, I'll report back. Could be fun. I used to sell cars back in the day. (not a typical d-bag salesman)
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I might go take a look this weekend. If I do, I'll report back. Could be fun. I used to sell cars back in the day. (not a typical d-bag salesman)
If you do, make sure and ask the person who advertised it why they are advertising false miles. And then ask them how they sleep at night knowing that they are a scamming people with false advertising and price gouging. Then tell him that you hope he doesn't have offspring.

I'd like to hear his response.

I know it was brought up earlier, but the false miles is just not sitting well with me. It's like third world shit. I should call and have a chat, but what good would that do? Nothing. Or maybe I could get them to change their add?
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I know. I should have made that clearer in my response. You were solely referring to the potential reliability. However, as Tiag pointed out, that would be the exception rather than the rule due to the reasons he stated.
I agree the likelihood of problems increases with this kind of "repair". However that doesn't mean it can't be a good vehicle for someone who buys it as long as the buyer goes in knowing what they're getting (and from the looks of things the seller is not going to provide them this information so hopefully the buyer will check it out thoroughly).

There are a lot of people out there who want the BMW badge and will buy one you or I wouldn't touch. They won't care if it has the correct instrument cluster. Or they don't care about the mileage (or if the mileage indicated in accurate). They want a BMW and if this is priced right (which it doesn't appear to be) they'll buy it.
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:30 AM
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If you do, make sure and ask the person who advertised it why they are advertising false miles. And then ask them how they sleep at night knowing that they are a scamming people with false advertising and price gouging. Then tell him that you hope he doesn't have offspring.

I'd like to hear his response.

I know it was brought up earlier, but the false miles is just not sitting well with me. It's like third world shit. I should call and have a chat, but what good would that do? Nothing. Or maybe I could get them to change their add?
We are not the target buyer for this vehicle. This seller is targeting the "I want a BMW / X5 buyer" who cannot afford a "nicer" one. That's an ironic statement given the asking price of the vehicle...the price seems to be inline with "nicer" ones. Which means it's likely out of reach for the target buyer and probably the reason it hasn't sold yet.

Whoever buys this vehicle most likely isn't going to care about these things. They're going to see it as a vehicle they'd like to drive. The fact the mileage is incorrect most likely won't matter (I know here in Colorado I don't even think you need to do a mileage disclosure once a vehicle is over 10 years old).

Is the dealer being dishonest...I think so given there are a number of indicators that the mileage is in error (there's a huge red flag on the Carfax screaming out at you to this effect). Hopefully whoever buys this at least reviews the Carfax so they'll see it). But there are potential buyers who genuinely do not care. That's the target buyer for this vehicle.
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:44 AM
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If you do, make sure and ask the person who advertised it why they are advertising false miles. And then ask them how they sleep at night knowing that they are a scamming people with false advertising and price gouging. Then tell him that you hope he doesn't have offspring.

I'd like to hear his response.

I know it was brought up earlier, but the false miles is just not sitting well with me. It's like third world shit. I should call and have a chat, but what good would that do? Nothing. Or maybe I could get them to change their add?
How can he be scamming anybody, The vehicle is advertised on Craigslist. The original breeding ground of scammers
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How can he be scamming anybody, The vehicle is advertised on Craigslist. The original breeding ground of scammers
Funny. Your right

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