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Old 07-16-2017, 08:16 PM
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No, not funny.

Yes, started 6 months ago. That's called hijacking a thread, bozo no no. FYI-there is an E39 forum or you can start an E39 thread and see what happens.
I don't have to start an E39 thread. We're in one.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:26 PM
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I'm confused...

Was just waiting for a response from OP on his unicorn header's numbers... because they might work on a v8 E53. Not that I was ever super optimistic that the cost/performance ratio would make any kind of sense. It was still a very cool set of headers and would be nice to know if they made modest power.
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:47 AM
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I'm confused...

Was just waiting for a response from OP on his unicorn header's numbers... because they might work on a v8 E53. Not that I was ever super optimistic that the cost/performance ratio would make any kind of sense. It was still a very cool set of headers and would be nice to know if they made modest power.
If it matters, I think you're not at all confused.

We are all curious about the experience of these headers on an E39 because it's the only application we have to discuss rt now. Hopefully the OP will have some time to update us on how they're doing in his car.
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:13 PM
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If it matters, I think you're not at all confused.

We are all curious about the experience of these headers on an E39 because it's the only application we have to discuss rt now. Hopefully the OP will have some time to update us on how they're doing in his car.
If you look back in the thread there were several members following the thread that have E53s even 4.6s that are interested in the outcome of OP project. If OP doesn't update his thread thats fine, that's his call.

It is disrespectful to hijack a thread. It is common courtesy to stay on topic. You have been around long enough to know this. If you would like to discuss e39 application the proper thing to do would be to private message him.
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It is disrespectful to hijack a thread. It is common courtesy to stay on topic. You have been around long enough to know this. If you would like to discuss e39 application the proper thing to do would be to private message him.
I'm sure the OP appreciates your guidance. But since you called him a 'bozo,' maybe he would be less inclined to consider your input. Perhaps he should never have brought up his E39 the first time. In his own thread. Tough thing to do: Hijack one's own thread.
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Yes, started 6 months ago. That's called hijacking a thread, bozo no no. FYI-there is an E39 forum or you can start an E39 thread and see what happens.
Give it a rest. Threads move around on topics. The E39 has been a discussion point for these brought up by the OP. In the very 1st post:
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The E39 is an aging model, everyone else has moved on. Well, I donít really care about everyone else. If youíre reading this, and youíre like me, we are not ready to move on and let go. In fact, we find every excuse to dump more money into the beast. I plan to keep my E39 M5 for as long as I can. We will all be probably driving electric vehicles in 10 years, but the legacy of the gasoline engined e39s will forever be a permanent part of my life.***
He even brought up FI in the E39 first. He talked even MORE about his E39 again, in *more* 1st hand detail over a year ago:
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I am running a 4.6 in my wagon and plan on installing these with before and after dynos. All questions should be answered there.
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If I went VF supercharger, for $5-6k I get a kit and for another few grand in testing/tuning/parts I finally get it up and running, I'd worry about things breaking. With headers, these headers, after the install and tune, I'm not only not worried about things breaking, I am not wondering of I could have passed up on better headers.
People who've gone evolve or SuperSprint sometines question if they should have gone with another setup. I won't be doing that.

Now if the gains are above 40hp, I'm totally happy and if I can hit that mark in torque, also thrilled.

It will make the power loss from running a supercharger (50hp to run the damn thing) seem not so noticed. But, even if I decide to keep things naturally aspirated, what fun it'll be.

Wait till they get installed and I get some real numbers off the dyno and then we'll know. I have high hopes.
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My goal in the entire engine swap on my wagon was to beat M5's.
My goodness, even YOU replied ab the badges for his (GASP!) E39.
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I would use the stock designation. Sleepers are tons of fun.
Where was your disdain for topics not E53 then? Sounds like your problem runs deeper than thread content. Maybe you can look into that and discover what about this problem keeps you so distant from landing a solid point. So far, all you've offered is a mess that contradicts the content within this thread from the very start and your very own contribution a few months ago.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:20 PM
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I was wondering where the thought of hijacking an e39 thread was coming from also, this being an e39 thread.

The OP started the thread because he's running a 4.6 and thought the headers might apply to e53's as well. Showing off a nice set of headers is always nice, but I think it may have also been to try and drum up interest in a seriously pricey mod. Not going to have much luck on that with these vehicles now being had for easily in the $5k range for a rough one, and only $12k-ish for a good one. Hard to justify 50%+ of purchase price for a mod that (I think) is going to net ~10-20rwhp on an m62b46 with no other mods.
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I was wondering where the thought of hijacking an e39 thread was coming from also, this being an e39 thread
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E39's from the very 1st post. I still find it funny. But I suppose I shouldn't. A disrespectful Bozo's thread hijacking from his own disrespectful off-topic thread is a very serious issue. This thread should be moved to the E39 forum... oh wait.. We don't have one of those here. Anyone who wants to discuss this should do it privately. It's just not one of the things we do around here.

I mean. Unless we already did, of course.

Well, clearly then the only solution is to remove any reference to the E39 and replace it with the word Rainbow. I have just the visual taken from some serious chill out time yesterday. I give thee.. Unicorn and Rainbows!:
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:30 PM
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OP was attempting to use the E39 with headers to give 4.4, 4.6 and potentially 4.8 X5 owners an idea of what we might expect on our vehicles as far as HP and TQ gain. The intended topic of the thread is clearly about X5s.

I didn't call anyone a bozo. I said it was a--Bozo no no. That comes from Bozo the clown days. It is not demeaning to anyone. It was what Bozo said when he was explaining why you shouldn't do something. May be before your time.

I have not been disrespectful to you. I would appreciate if you would extend the same courtesy to me.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:31 PM
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I have not been disrespectful to you. I would appreciate if you would extend the same courtesy to me.
We disagree.
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You have been around long enough to know this.
Suggesting that anyone should know better by its very nature reveals you think you know something that should be obvious to another. That's being judgemental. Placing yourself in judgement over another person is a key element to the very nature of disrespect. But that judgement is contrasted a little more clearly when it's shown to be just wrong. As it is so clearly here.

It's not that I care about whether or not you respect me in type or life. I can't. I simply don't know you. I guess that makes it difficult for me to reconcile that you might have felt disrespected by my type. Believe me, my intent wasn't to demonstrate a lack of respect. I intended to highlight a palpable disconnect between your actions and your words.
For clarity, those actions are suggesting that E39 discussion was a hijack when the OP- and specifically you- had already contributed to the same.
I meant no disrespect for anything but denying that facts aren't what the thread content shows. I do recognize and take exception to a fact laid before me and the departure from it. That's all this is.

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Grasping at straws will not push away the very fact that E39's remain a constant, relevant discussion point as they have from the very 1st post. Admit you were wrong ab that and we'll have a common point from which to draw. We all know what the thread is about. The question is whether or not you can come to terms with:

1) This thread included E39's as a focus from the start.
and sooo...
2) Information and opinions (like yours) about E39's is important and germane to the topic.
which means...
3) No one Hijacked anything. (including the OP)
because...
4) No Bozo no no's here here. Thread topics change from day to day, month to month, and year to year. The thing we're here to talk about is a lot less important than the fact that we're here to talk ab them.
I should note that whether you do or don't admit your flaws here is of little real consequence. I'm not one of the people who knows you here. That lack of familiarity allows a pretty complete lack of concern for your opinion. I could care less whether your thoughts of respect and mine align. My concern of your input here stops completely at the curious satisfaction of whether or not you might admit that you were wrong about the thread content above.
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