Timing for Camshafts (not Vanos)?

PR1AWRet · #1 08-14-2016, 05:24 PM

2002 x5 4.4

Making a write up of proper information I used. A lot of misinformation in this post. Live and learn. It boils down to using the right information, following the correct procedures and take advise form fellow members.

CapeX5 · #2 08-14-2016, 09:46 PM

YES!

PR1AWRet · #3 08-20-2016, 06:25 PM

Got done Again with the camshaft timing. Got rid of Code P0021 but still have the code P0011 Bank 1 timing is to far advanced. I followed the Biesian procedure down to a tee and checked 2-3 times that the step was done properly, I even went out and bought a torque wrench to ensure everything was torqued down properly. Cranked the motor over a couple of times by hand and put the blocks back on. They were laying flat.

Started it the first time and in 3 cranks it started with no codes. Let it run for about 3 minutes and turned it off. Checked the water level topped it off and started again with no codes. I let it warm up for about 5 minutes. No codes. Went to go for a test ride, started it up and code P0011 popped up again. Turned it off erased the code and no codes on starting. OK so I take it for a drive, at the end of the parking spot going on to the road it pops the code again. Took it for a 3 mile drive code stayed there. I'm thinking it is the sensor by now.

PR1AWRet · #4 08-21-2016, 06:33 PM

I did not do the Vanos section of the Biesian procedure.

Today's project was to test the solenoids. I did a ground test of the solenoid male pins and didn't have any ohms on them. I tested to see how many ohms there was between the 2 pins on each of them and got 11.1 ohms at 80.6 degrees F.

I tested both for voltage on the female connectors and got 8.23 volts for both. Tested for ohms and both had none.

Pulled bank 1 solenoid and did a functional test with 12 volts and operated correctly. Cleaned it since it was out. Put it back in and got the P0011 code after starting the second time.

Tomorrow, swap camshaft sensors and if not then going to tear bank 1 side down again and see if the blocks line up.

Last year I put a new lower chain tensioner on. I received another new one in the kit I got. They both are identical on the outside and same height. The spring inside of the new one seems twice the strength as the new one I got last year. It has less deflection on the guide and rail, holds it in place better(or worse).

X53Jay4.8is · #5 08-21-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PR1AWRet

Got done Again with the camshaft timing. Got rid of Code P0021 but still have the code P0011 Bank 1 timing is to far advanced. I followed the Biesian procedure down to a tee and checked 2-3 times that the step was done properly, I even went out and bought a torque wrench to ensure everything was torqued down properly. Cranked the motor over a couple of times by hand and put the blocks back on. They were laying flat.

Started it the first time and in 3 cranks it started with no codes. Let it run for about 3 minutes and turned it off. Checked the water level topped it off and started again with no codes. I let it warm up for about 5 minutes. No codes. Went to go for a test ride, started it up and code P0011 popped up again. Turned it off erased the code and no codes on starting. OK so I take it for a drive, at the end of the parking spot going on to the road it pops the code again. Took it for a 3 mile drive code stayed there. I'm thinking it is the sensor by now.

Doubt its the sensor. Did you reset all the adaptations? Your diagnostic tool should have a program/function that allows all of the adaptations to be reset.This definitely should be done and then see if the code pops back up.

PR1AWRet · #6 08-21-2016, 08:46 PM

I'll go out and reset. Lets see what happens.
Thanks
Nope still there.

PR1AWRet · #7 08-22-2016, 07:50 PM

Swapped the CPS's, Bank one still popped the code P0011. Pulled the timing cover, pinned the flywheel at TDC, put the blocks on, they both lay flat after I turned the intake cam to the end stop of the vanos. Checked the camshaft sensor wheel alignment and lined up.

Tomorrow put it back together and swap the vanos solenoids from side to side. At a loss after that.

X53Jay4.8is · #8 08-22-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PR1AWRet

Swapped the CPS's, Bank one still popped the code P0011. Pulled the timing cover, pinned the flywheel at TDC, put the blocks on, they both lay flat after I turned the intake cam to the end stop of the vanos. Checked the camshaft sensor wheel alignment and lined up.

Tomorrow put it back together and swap the vanos solenoids from side to side. At a loss after that.

You may have to adjust the cam shaft sensor wheel to keep the code away. I have been there and done that on the M62 engines including the 4.6is

diyanich · #9 08-23-2016, 05:24 PM

Hi,

Try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPK...ature=youtu.be

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Originally Posted by X53Jay4.8is

You may have to adjust the cam shaft sensor wheel to keep the code away. I have been there and done that on the M62 engines including the 4.6is

PR1AWRet · #10 08-23-2016, 05:11 PM

There is no SES light but both the code readers pop a P0011. Is this something that is stored in the computer. I tore the right bank down and retimed the cams. Exhaust is right on but the intake was off. I was using the cam locks married together last time but this time used the individual ones to set.
EDIT: Light finally came on.