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Old 11-09-2016, 06:38 AM
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Side Mirror cannot be Retracted

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I have met a headache scenario on the left side mirror my X5 4.6is (RHD), it can be folded but cannot be retracted back to normal position. Really make me flat up

Initially, my car garbage and me thought it is just to change the Gear Set of the side mirror to fix the problem, but finally it is failed. My car garbage has tried to connect the side mirror with individual electric power other than the car, the side mirror could be folded and retracted smoothly in this way. However, it still couldn't be retracted with the power of the car. My car garbage said that the problem will be persist even changing the whole set of side mirror assembly, and don't know what a true reason it is, they just guess " the electric circuit (computer) for the mirror motor inside the left door to control the Left side mirror has been gone wrong ".

It seems like there isn't any assembly parts available to replace the electric circuit (computer) inside the door available in the market. Dudes, did you meet this problem before, and know how to repair it, or any assembly parts you can suggest me to buy in order to fix this problem

Thank you very much for your feedback in advance !!!
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Old 11-09-2016, 10:55 PM
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Good day!

You may need to check voltage on the "retracted" circuit... If the drivers side works correctly, I doubt it is a controller issue... if the motor works on external power, that rules out the motor and the wires he used to connect up the external power... I think there is a broken wire between the controller and the mirror... not a fun job, but there you have it...

Let us know what you find please!

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Old 11-09-2016, 11:28 PM
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Good day!

You may need to check voltage on the "retracted" circuit... If the drivers side works correctly, I doubt it is a controller issue... if the motor works on external power, that rules out the motor and the wires he used to connect up the external power... I think there is a broken wire between the controller and the mirror... not a fun job, but there you have it...

Let us know what you find please!

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williamx5
yes, the driver side works correctly; and the motor also works well on external power.
So my car garage guess the circuit or relay something (since it can be folded but not retracted) inside the door gone wrong. In case of broken wire between the controller and the mirror that you mentioned, what steps I need to check, and where I can buy the wires or stuffs.

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Old 11-10-2016, 12:41 AM
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I'd have to look at the schematics to know what to check and where... I'm at work now, but I'll look into it when I get home in about six hours....

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Old 11-12-2016, 02:27 AM
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Good day!

You may need to check voltage on the "retracted" circuit... If the drivers side works correctly, I doubt it is a controller issue... if the motor works on external power, that rules out the motor and the wires he used to connect up the external power... I think there is a broken wire between the controller and the mirror... not a fun job, but there you have it...

Let us know what you find please!

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I have surfed internet and see what fault the side mirror usually has
Other than broken wire issue caused the fault, the sensor or the microswitch inside the side mirror can be a reason to stop the side mirror to function well. What do you think on my case ?
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Old 11-12-2016, 04:55 AM
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The microswitch very often become dislodged and cause issue with the folding operation. It may be worth popping off the mirror cover and checking. Easy to do. When I got my car, both mirrors would fold in (under power) but immediately fold back out again. It turned out to be a loose microswitch on one side. I popped it back into place and everything now works as it is supposed to.
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The microswitch very often become dislodged and cause issue with the folding operation. It may be worth popping off the mirror cover and checking. Easy to do. When I got my car, both mirrors would fold in (under power) but immediately fold back out again. It turned out to be a loose microswitch on one side. I popped it back into place and everything now works as it is supposed to.
As the left side mirror can be fold-in and retracted with external power, it seems not to be the problem from its gear set

I am wondering if the sensor of the right side mirror, or the main switch goes fault, and then causing the problem in left side mirror instead of the the sensor of the left side mirror or the gear set. If not, do you think if I need to change a new MIRROR SET instead of changing a new microswitch ?
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:53 AM
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As the left side mirror can be fold-in and retracted with external power, it seems not to be the problem from its gear set

I am wondering if the sensor of the right side mirror, or the main switch goes fault, and then causing the problem in left side mirror instead of the the sensor of the left side mirror or the gear set. If not, do you think if I need to change a new MIRROR SET instead of changing a new microswitch ?
I was surprised to find that one dislodged microswitch caused BOTH mirrors to fail (or at least fold back out immediately when folded in) so I guess it IS possible that a fault in the right side mirror causes an issue in the left side. But if your right side mirror is working fine, then it's more likely that there is some sort of wiring fault on the left side.

And my money would be on the wiring in the left door hinge. It is known to fail, due to the door opening and closing action flexing the wiring loom. There is an electrical connector in the hinge area that can be disconnected to allow for easier checking of the wiring loom BUT remember to disconnect the battery before disconnecting anything!! There are SRS (airbag) sensors etc. in the door that will trigger fault codes to be stored if you disconnect the door connector while the battery is connected.

Corrosion may also play a role here - check this thread about corrosion issue in the door loom connector.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ow-issues.html

Time to check some stuff.
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