UPDATE -Does anyone know this 4.6is? No clean title :(

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by sunny5280

Obligated to and does are two different things. A small deposit to hold it wold be reasonable. I think $100 is too little though. However it doesn't guarantee he wouldn't sell it to someone else and hand you back the deposit.

Maybe you could work through an escrow service?

I doubt he'd want to spend money on legal proceedings to avoid giving the title he knows he signed a document promising you. He'd lose, and then owe legal fees, atty fees, etc and most likely STILL have to give you the title.

Bottom line is, it's up to you as to how you proceed. I've done this when purchasing vehicles with liens on them and had no issue. The bank still has to send the title to the owner you are buying from with the lien release on it...

[AV8R4AA]

Spousal unit drove X5 today.
She did enjoy it!
Realistically, the X5 already has a deposit on it.
Can't sell it anyway

[AV8R4AA]

I test drive the X5 again today.
A couple of 4.6 questions.

1) Does the tachometer yellow and red light stay on after warm up?
2) does the M62 coolant tank have a lollipop floating dipstick?
3) one of the rear heated seats was odd. The switch worked, but the 2 lights went out
within a minute or so. What's that mean?
4) This X5 has a much easier to turn the steering wheel.
My 4.4 is heavy on the wheel, comparably.
5). This X5 has the sliding cargo tray, do they work? Rattle a little bit?

Thank you Guys.

[CleanIsFast]

I cant answer everything but, my tachometer oil temp lights go off after about 5 minutes of driving. They do stay lite a bit longer than my M5.

Rear heated seats, I believe my lights stay lite the entire time. Could be a fuse issue?

Steering is fairly light in the 4.6, I think it's due to that servotronic steering option:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5

BMW's definition of Servotronic

Servotronic does not regulate the power steering via the engine speed, which is the usual method: it functions instead in conjunction with the speed the car is currently travelling at. The electronic modification of servo pressure depending on speed guarantees impressively high servo power even when travelling slowly; this power is reduced at higher speeds.
This means that only minimum effort is needed to turn the wheel at low speed; steering assistance drops continuously as you accelerate, increasing the direct contact with the road surface and enabling you to steer with increased precision. In addition, you benefit from added comfort and ease of movement when parking or steering in confined spaces, for example when travelling through narrow openings and alleys.

M Servotronic.

M Servotronic is a special form of power steering geared not to engine speed, like conventional power steering systems, but rather to the car's actual road speed. In practice this means ample power assistance when parking and manoeuvring at low speeds, followed by gradual reduction of power assistance as road speed increases to ensure greater direct contact with the road at high speeds and, as a result, an even higher standard of steering precision. Using the sports switch, the driver can also choose a second steering control curve for even sportier feedback from the steering.

Retractable cargo tray is a nice option! Some people say they are useless and take up more cargo space, but I'd love to have one for groceries, golf bags, etc.

[sunny5280]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

I doubt he'd want to spend money on legal proceedings to avoid giving the title he knows he signed a document promising you. He'd lose, and then owe legal fees, atty fees, etc and most likely STILL have to give you the title.

Bottom line is, it's up to you as to how you proceed. I've done this when purchasing vehicles with liens on them and had no issue. The bank still has to send the title to the owner you are buying from with the lien release on it...

What if there's a problem with the title and he's unable to obtain a clean copy? He's got your money and you've got a truck you cannot use. If he wanted to wash his hands of it then it would be on your shoulders to attempt to recover your money. Otherwise he just walks away and you're stuck.

[sunny5280]

Originally Posted by AV8R4AA

Spousal unit drove X5 today.
She did enjoy it!
Realistically, the X5 already has a deposit on it.
Can't sell it anyway

Is this a deposit you put down on it?

[Anhelenuk]

Yes to the first two questions. Rear heated seats lights should operate just like fronts. Cargo doesn't rattle and is nice feature that makes it easier to get stuff from the back.

[Joshdub]

Originally Posted by sunny5280

What if there's a problem with the title and he's unable to obtain a clean copy? He's got your money and you've got a truck you cannot use. If he wanted to wash his hands of it then it would be on your shoulders to attempt to recover your money. Otherwise he just walks away and you're stuck.

You specify clean/unbranded title in your agreement.

[X53Jay4.8is]

Originally Posted by AV8R4AA

I test drive the X5 again today.
A couple of 4.6 questions.

1) Does the tachometer yellow and red light stay on after warm up?
2) does the M62 coolant tank have a lollipop floating dipstick?
3) one of the rear heated seats was odd. The switch worked, but the 2 lights went out
within a minute or so. What's that mean?
4) This X5 has a much easier to turn the steering wheel.
My 4.4 is heavy on the wheel, comparably.
5). This X5 has the sliding cargo tray, do they work? Rattle a little bit?

Thank you Guys.

Fault in the rear heating seats. May have a broken grid wire in the heating element. If it was the fuse then the light on the switch I would imagine would not come on. At any rate start with the simple obvious diagnosis and work from there.

[sunny5280]

Originally Posted by Joshdub

You specify clean/unbranded title in your agreement.

You can specify whatever you want in the contract. It's nothing but words on a piece of paper and won't change the fact the buyer could get burned.

If the seller is unable to obtain a clear title and decides not to deal with it he has the money and the buyer has a vehicle he cannot use. Now the buyer has to either pursue recovery of the money from the seller or resolution to clear the title. Either way the buyer now has to deal with it.