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Old 04-26-2017, 02:28 PM
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Thanks! That's an excellent price
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Thanks for your insights Oldskewel.

Yes, I went with a lower grade of camber arm (Karlyn). Shame on me........and yes I can SEE the -3.8* of camber on the right rear.

I am committed to the adjustable arm and will use that to give me future flexibility as well. I'll be shooting for the low end of the spec as well -1.5*.

I changed my rear swing arm bushings out as well with polyurethane versions from PSB.

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All suspension components that could impact camber have been replaced? And nothing else has been changed such as wheel diameter or spacers added?
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What rotors are those? They look nice and aggressive.[/QUOTE]

Gosh, I've forgotten. Possibly Power Stop????

Found them on eBay.

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All suspension components that could impact camber have been replaced? And nothing else has been changed such as wheel diameter or spacers added?
I believe that all the pieces that affect camber have been replaced unless you can think of one that I missed. I do think the camber arm is the bad actor.

Or the PSB poly bushings are to blame???? But that's hard to imagine.

Same wheels and tires and no spacers before or after

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Early in the thread there is a link to an FCP suspension rebuild kit. Check that for a list of what you did or didn't replace.

In post thirty-one there is an eBay link to swing arm bushings. Per the fitment chart the bushings are not for an X5.

FYI, Reducing negative camber by extending the adjustable links will cause the vehicle to sit higher.
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Thanks! That's an excellent price
That's exactly why I placed the order right away Josh!

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Early in the thread there is a link to an FCP suspension rebuild kit. Check that for a list of what you did or didn't replace.

In post thirty-one there is an eBay link to swing arm bushings. Per the fitment chart the bushings are not for an X5.

FYI, Reducing negative camber by extending the adjustable links will cause the vehicle to sit higher.
Thanks bcredliner.

That swing arm bushing link is incorrect and I did not buy that one. I bought this front and rear swing arm kit:

BMW X5 E53 00-06 Rear Lower Arm Bush Kit Front & Rear Position x2 - PSB 653 654 | eBay



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And with those bushings, since the hole is in the center, there's really not much that could be wrong unless the hole diameters were significantly bigger than the bolt diameters. I'm sure you would have noticed if that were true.

It sounds to me like you have changed everything that could affect camber. And it's probably impossible to put things back together any way other than correctly. And it's doubtful that the Karlyn control arms would be out of spec just because they are a slightly lower brand. Any chance they shipped you the wrong Karlyn parts?

I guess if you're planning on putting in the adjustable arms, those Karlyn arms are coming out anyway. Hopefully you saved the originals for comparison. I think I still have mine somewhere, LOL. Why? No reason at all.

EDIT - at this point, I would also second guess the alignment shop. I'd get under there and loosen the camber eccentric bolt, and move it to minimize negative camber, and see if it was already there. Probably was, but you seem to be in one of those situations where nothing seems like it could be the answer - but the answer is there somewhere.
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Even if hole is in the center if the surrounding bushing material will not support sitting suspension load it will move off center. Doubt that's the case but it is possible.
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OK, so true confession time in hopes that this will help others doing the rear ball joint (BJ) bust out.

I discovered what was contributing to my crazy rear camber. The right rear BJ was the one I did first and try as I might (maybe first use of the specific BMW ball joint tool from an Xoutposter), that old BJ came out of the carrier offset. The new BJ went in the same way despite several attempts to correct the insertion angle. Upon final insertion of the new one a big chunk of carrier material appeared on the edge where the snap ring is placed. I did not think much of it at the time, however, I should have. Subsequently, despite the snap ring being in place the BJ slid out of the carrier

I disassembled the whole suspension again and pressed the Karlyn BJ back in, a clue was that very little pressure was required to reset it. And placed the snap ring in place again to no avail. The BJ slipped out again!

So, realizing that I had ruined the carrier on that side, I sourced a serviceable hub and carrier from ebay for $60 and purchased a new Meyle BJ and Lemforder integral link. Completed the swap of the carrier yesterday with AutoZone master BJ set which was just barely workable and I was careful not to drive the BJ in crooked. Because of the master set receiving cup interference on the carrier, it started to go in crooked, I adjusted the tool to provide opposing pressure on the higher side, which helped to drive it in straight.

Moral of the story is that driving your BJ in crooked risks ruining the carrier receiving diameter.

I'm still awaiting the adjustable camber arms which will allow for a more perfect tuning of the rear camber settings.

Confession is good for the soul and is also good for the community to keep others from falling into the same traps.

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