What do you guys think about this Android HU?

[crystalworks]

Video is up. I have to say... I'm pretty excited about this one. It's got really good response and the screen is gorgeous. I know it doesn't look good in this video as I shot it quick and dirty on my cell phone... but it is SHARP. I don't know how this happened but it is not supposed to come with the extension harness but they sent it to me anyway. No complaints here.

Bench test video.

[semcoinc]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Video is up. I have to say... I'm pretty excited about this one. It's got really good response and the screen is gorgeous. I know it doesn't look good in this video as I shot it quick and dirty on my cell phone... but it is SHARP. I don't know how this happened but it is not supposed to come with the extension harness but they sent it to me anyway. No complaints here.

Bench test video.

Looks great!

The extra screen real estate should be nice and 4GB RAM will run very nicely and retain snappy performance among even the most RAM hoggy apps.

Mike

[mr_robot]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Video is up. I have to say... I'm pretty excited about this one. It's got really good response and the screen is gorgeous. I know it doesn't look good in this video as I shot it quick and dirty on my cell phone... but it is SHARP. I don't know how this happened but it is not supposed to come with the extension harness but they sent it to me anyway. No complaints here.



Bench test video.

Have you installed it yet?


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[Overboost]

I have started the reading, researching and planning stage of my install next month. One of the most common features people add is the reverse camera and I want to know more about the wiring and activation of the cameras. If you do a few searches for E53 backup cam you will come up with plethora of old posts dating back to 2006 for the addition of backup cams to OEM navigation systems with the TV tuner.

And then the ones that have posted videos of installs of cameras on the android systems are just plain hacks. Wires running everywhere, not securing of wiring, wires not properly routed, etc. It is just painful to watch.

Any of the threads you read are outdated to the point where the iBus adapter may or not have been perfected yet so my question is does the iBus app determine reverse gear now or is the wiring of the camera trigger to the reverse lights still necessary?

I want to learn more about the latest android systems and how the installers provide the connections for the reverse cameras and/or dash cameras.

[semcoinc]

Originally Posted by Overboost

I have started the reading, researching and planning stage of my install next month. One of the most common features people add is the reverse camera and I want to know more about the wiring and activation of the cameras. If you do a few searches for E53 backup cam you will come up with plethora of old posts dating back to 2006 for the addition of backup cams to OEM navigation systems with the TV tuner.

And then the ones that have posted videos of installs of cameras on the android systems are just plain hacks. Wires running everywhere, not securing of wiring, wires not properly routed, etc. It is just painful to watch.

Any of the threads you read are outdated to the point where the iBus adapter may or not have been perfected yet so my question is does the iBus app determine reverse gear now or is the wiring of the camera trigger to the reverse lights still necessary?

I want to learn more about the latest android systems and how the installers provide the connections for the reverse cameras and/or dash cameras.

To my knowledge with the iBus app 2.1.0.1 that I have attached to my Android 6.0 Eonon GA6166, there is no knowledge of the reverse camera by the iBus app. The camera display in my HU is triggered by a signal from the reverse lights (presumably positive voltage) that triggers the HU to display the rear camera input.

Mike

[Overboost]

Originally Posted by semcoinc

To my knowledge with the iBus app 2.1.0.1 that I have attached to my Android 6.0 Eonon GA6166, there is no knowledge of the reverse camera by the iBus app. The camera display in my HU is triggered by a signal from the reverse lights (presumably positive voltage) that triggers the HU to display the rear camera input.

Mike

Thank you Mike. I see a lot of that same wiring logic and protocols on the web. But surely there is a reverse message in the Ibus, the PDC feature knows when it's on...

One of the problems the X5 has is many have tried to wire the power of the camera to the reverse lights and has caused video quality interference, momentary operation and hot check bulb warnings on the dash. Since I will be going with the DVR recording my cameras will need to be powered to be on with radio or ignition position 1/2 source.

I notice that the AVIN allows you to set the cameras to continue recording even after leaving the vehicle for up to 2 hours so I am try to contact them regarding the wiring of their cameras for that feature to work. One would think the cameras would be wired to HAAT and honestly sounds like a potential battery parasitic drain issue.

There has to be a proper way to wire these cameras, I just am struggling with the different systems, different features and different algorithms.

*EDIT* I see you over on E46F too. Never realized that was you.

[semcoinc]

Originally Posted by Overboost

Thank you Mike. I see a lot of that same wiring logic and protocols on the web. But surely there is a reverse message in the Ibus, the PDC feature knows when it's on...

One of the problems the X5 has is many have tried to wire the power of the camera to the reverse lights and has caused video quality interference, momentary operation and hot check bulb warnings on the dash. Since I will be going with the DVR recording my cameras will need to be powered to be on with radio or ignition position 1/2 source.

I notice that the AVIN allows you to set the cameras to continue recording even after leaving the vehicle for up to 2 hours so I am try to contact them regarding the wiring of their cameras for that feature to work. One would think the cameras would be wired to HAAT and honestly sounds like a potential battery parasitic drain issue.

There has to be a proper way to wire these cameras, I just am struggling with the different systems, different features and different algorithms.

Yes, I do see this video interference come and go from time to time with the LED bulbs I have in both the E53 and E46.

I think the solution you seek is a relay that pulls power from a separate source for the camera when the rear lights activate the relay to close it's contacts.

That might be helpful and now I am remembering that this is the way I wired my E53 rear camera but there still appears to be mild interference from the electrical system since without the engine running the video is much clearer.

Possibly a better camera design with greater electrical interference insulation

Mike

[Overboost]

Some of the issues come from the BMW lights. LCI has pulse width modulated (PWM) bulb signals and preLCI is analog signals (OV, 12V). I'm sure there is an analog reverse signal on the LCI system somewhere. From the reverse light switch at the gearbox to the PDC module to the trailer module... Somewhere.

The easiest signal for me would be a digital signal of 0 or 1 coming from the IBus for activation.

[Crowz]

Originally Posted by Overboost

I have started the reading, researching and planning stage of my install next month. One of the most common features people add is the reverse camera and I want to know more about the wiring and activation of the cameras. If you do a few searches for E53 backup cam you will come up with plethora of old posts dating back to 2006 for the addition of backup cams to OEM navigation systems with the TV tuner.

And then the ones that have posted videos of installs of cameras on the android systems are just plain hacks. Wires running everywhere, not securing of wiring, wires not properly routed, etc. It is just painful to watch.

Any of the threads you read are outdated to the point where the iBus adapter may or not have been perfected yet so my question is does the iBus app determine reverse gear now or is the wiring of the camera trigger to the reverse lights still necessary?

I want to learn more about the latest android systems and how the installers provide the connections for the reverse cameras and/or dash cameras.

The Seicane has an ibus interface box for the steering wheel controls and such. This has to be whats triggering the reverse lights since I cant find any factory harness wire that is for the trans being shifted to reverse. Since the radio goes into backup camera mode with no extra wiring done by me and the factory harness plug not having a dedicated "reverse" signal wire it has to be decoding it from the bus with the provided box. If the car was here I could test this by unplugging the ibus box that came with the radio but the wife is at work right now.

[Overboost]

Found a little more info from autopumpkin.com. Here is a basic layout of one camera harness like I think I have ordered. It also shows power from the reverse light 12V but on our BMW's this causes issues. So with a relay it should work but still, this only has camera powered up when reverse is engaged. I want the camera powered up always when key is on for recording purposes, not for viewing on monitor.



Another wiring schematic for some different camera systems that have a dedicated analog reverse light signal sent to the HU if you don't have the help of IBus messages to indicate the reverse signal.



And finally, the message at the bottom:

BE NOTED:
If your headunit is using the CAN BUS decoder box to control the reverse signal, then the reverse detective wire should be already connect between the CAN BUS box and the headunit, then you no need to care about this wire, just connect the RCA jacket to the camera input port from the radio.