Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Fluid Motor Union
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 02-15-2022, 04:40 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 118
2004bmwx53i is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewwynn View Post
The weak link is the paint on the line. Once It fails at any point it will spread. In your case the nut likely cut through the paint during installation allowing the nut to weld to the line.

When using machines to fabricate, steel lines have the advantage of rigidity they stay perfect from fabrication to installation so there are definitely benefits.

Nicop Is 10x easier for DIY so the advantages vaporize quickly.
Please see attached to see what failed on me.
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #32  
Old 02-15-2022, 04:52 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Virigina, USA
Posts: 2,574
StephenVA is on a distinguished road
Unions joints....
__________________

2005 X5 4.8IS
The Blue ones are always FASTER....

Current Garage:
2005 X5 4.8is
2002 M5 TiSilver
2003 525iT
1998 528i
Former Garage Stable Highlights
2004 325XiT Sport
1973 De Tomaso Pantera, L Model
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 4 sp Alpine White
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 4 sp GoManGo Green
1971 Dart Sport, “Dart Light” package
1969 Road Runner 383
1968 Ply Barracuda 340S FB Sea-foam Green
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 02-15-2022, 09:41 PM
andrewwynn's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Racine, WI
Posts: 12,528
andrewwynn will become famous soon enoughandrewwynn will become famous soon enough
I was able to detach the downstream side of the two front unions


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
2011 E70 • N55 (me)
2012 E70 • N63 (wife)
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 02-15-2022, 10:40 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 118
2004bmwx53i is on a distinguished road
[QUOTE=andrewwynn;1217590]I was able to detach the downstream side of the two front unions

I totally envy you!
This delayed my work for 2 weeks.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 02-16-2022, 10:59 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 747
nick325xit 5spd is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2004bmwx53i View Post
If steel lines are that bad, why BMW uses it. Mind you, this line that I took out due to rusted connection nut to the end of the brake hose, was in perfect condition along the rest of the line. I had to use dremel grinder to scrape it off. This is after 18 years of salty road exposure. The weakest point seems to the nuts and not the steel line.
Mostly, I suspect, because steel lines are cheaper, and the ease of bending doesn't really matter for the factory.

I've had plenty of steel lines, including on BMWs, fail mid line.

Nothing is as bad as the idiotic GM uncoated steel brake line thing they used to do. Had to replace all the lines on my truck.
__________________
2011 M3
2006 Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
2004 X5 3.0i 6MT
1995 M3 S50B32
1990 325is
1989 M3 S54B32

Hers:
1989 325iX
1996 911 Turbo


Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 02-16-2022, 11:44 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 118
2004bmwx53i is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by nick325xit 5spd View Post
Mostly, I suspect, because steel lines are cheaper, and the ease of bending doesn't really matter for the factory.

I've had plenty of steel lines, including on BMWs, fail mid line.

Nothing is as bad as the idiotic GM uncoated steel brake line thing they used to do. Had to replace all the lines on my truck.
Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the input.
Regarding your truck: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 02-16-2022, 05:21 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Virigina, USA
Posts: 2,574
StephenVA is on a distinguished road
The great news is that there are complete kits for the ones that go bad often like Jeep, Ford, Chevy etc, just zero for BMWs.

Had a Jeep Grand Cherokee master to rear to rear union on Axle brake turn into a flute. Every inch had a hole.

The reason why BMW lines go bad is external environmental issues and poor coating on the lines. On most other make applications it is internal to exterior failures, as who besides BMW owners flush their brake fluids?
__________________

2005 X5 4.8IS
The Blue ones are always FASTER....

Current Garage:
2005 X5 4.8is
2002 M5 TiSilver
2003 525iT
1998 528i
Former Garage Stable Highlights
2004 325XiT Sport
1973 De Tomaso Pantera, L Model
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 4 sp Alpine White
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 4 sp GoManGo Green
1971 Dart Sport, “Dart Light” package
1969 Road Runner 383
1968 Ply Barracuda 340S FB Sea-foam Green
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 02-16-2022, 05:22 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 747
nick325xit 5spd is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2004bmwx53i View Post
Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the input.
Regarding your truck: What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
GM also didn't paint the frame, they just dipped it in wax. We had to take the cab and bed off to coat the frame.
__________________
2011 M3
2006 Sierra 2500HD 4WD LBZ/Allison
2004 X5 3.0i 6MT
1995 M3 S50B32
1990 325is
1989 M3 S54B32

Hers:
1989 325iX
1996 911 Turbo


Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 02-23-2022, 01:02 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 118
2004bmwx53i is on a distinguished road
Would someone please tell me what this black line is on the photo attached. It is located behind front left (driver side) wheel cover just behind the brake line/brake hose connection. It continues under the car alongside all other brake lines. The other end continues to the engine.
I can't figure out if it's a tube or an electrical wire. I was heating the brake line nut, the heat got to it and the outside cover got melted. I have to know if I have to replace/repair/ or just leave as is.
It's most likely a vacuum hose. I couldn't locate it on the RealOEM.
Any guidance will be appreciated.

P.S. Just found out one end is attached to the throttle body boot. So it must be a hose of some sort.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by 2004bmwx53i; 02-23-2022 at 03:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 02-23-2022, 04:20 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 1,451
oldskewel is on a distinguished road
The fuel filter has an integrated fuel pressure regulator. That regulator vents a very small amount of gas vapors. Those vapors are routed all the way up to the intake.

I will guess that this hard plastic line is one of the lines in that path.
__________________
2001 X5 3.0i, 203k miles, AT, owned since 2014
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:56 AM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.