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Old 02-02-2021, 12:52 PM
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Looking at those last two posts there is an expenditure of over 300 dollars to get someone else to do work. Wouldn’t you get a good smoke machine and a decent diagnostics tool for that or less in the USA.


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Old 02-02-2021, 12:58 PM
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This one?

https://www.foxwelltool.com/wholesal...installed.html
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I'll also say, I like buying good quality tools and have non-issue spending money. I get satisfaction from working on this car and it's been a valuable learning experience for me.

I think my point was sort of overlooked. Again all the parts I am replacing are basically done, at the end of their life and ready to go. MOST of these lean code errors on the X5 I have are due to several basic parts. That's what I was trying to assess. If I was missing any of the basics.

I'll spray the MAF sensor, and I'll swap out the CCV and tubing, along with the intake gasket. My bet at this point is the CCV tubes. I did have a crack in the lower boot, that's fixed. Valve cover gasket was blown out, that's now fixed too.

After that, I'll get the smoke machine if needed.
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Old 02-02-2021, 02:01 PM
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I'll also say, I like buying good quality tools and have non-issue spending money. I get satisfaction from working on this car and it's been a valuable learning experience for me.

I think my point was sort of overlooked. Again all the parts I am replacing are basically done, at the end of their life and ready to go. MOST of these lean code errors on the X5 I have are due to several basic parts. That's what I was trying to assess. If I was missing any of the basics.

I'll spray the MAF sensor, and I'll swap out the CCV and tubing, along with the intake gasket. My bet at this point is the CCV tubes. I did have a crack in the lower boot, that's fixed. Valve cover gasket was blown out, that's now fixed too.

After that, I'll get the smoke machine if needed.
I'm with you. Replace all the old crusty stuff that's going to fail anyway in the near future if it's not EOL already @ 167k miles. After the common maintenance related things, smoke it. It might be due for o2 sensors as well, but I'd save those for last after completing your service work and smoking it if an issue persists.
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I have the NT-510 and love it and I believe the NT-520 just has a different style of buttons.

I'm not 100% sure if I'm remembering correctly but the NT-530 was different enough that someone on here found it didn't do everything the previous models did.(as said before not sure)

Try Amazon as the sellers there sometimes have a 510 for $99 USD

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Thanks. I just looked at the different models on ebay. Agreed, the NT510 looks like the best design. Seems like it does a lot. I'm going to buy it.

I just ordered the PCV hoses and valve, a new manifold gasket and new oil fill cap. Total with shipping was $100 even. I need a few more bits, which I'll buy from pelican or other, then need to wait for a warm day to get down to business.

Sadly, no heated empty garage bay to work in...
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A single purchase of less than 150 USD will get you a Foxwell NT-510 or NT-520 and you will be able to scan as much as you want and get real codes not the generic p-codes.

The 165 you said for a smoke test seems pretty high to me but maybe that shop has hookers and blow in the waiting area.

Not trying to be a dick about it but if you want to keep costs down then throwing parts (even cheap ones) adds up quickly. There will be plenty of things that will need to be done and sometimes a few minor parts replacements can cause other parts to shit the bed at the worst time shortly thereafter.



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Less than $150 will get you a tool that will pay for itself the first time you use it. And a smoke machine costs ALOT less than $165. I use a rubber clove and hose clamp it to the intake where the filter box attaches. Cut off a finger tip on the glove and clamp the hose in the finger tip. Easy peazy. You'll know inside of two minutes where your vacuum leak is.
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So you start the smoke before the MAF? Thanks.
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So you start the smoke before the MAF? Thanks.
That's what I do so I'm getting as much of the intake system as possible. Some will say you shouldn't do it before the MAF because it puts oil on it, but a spray of MAF cleaner takes care of that.
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Can someone recommend me a specific smoke machine? Seems like a lot of chinese junk and homemade. Like the guy using a cigar. Lol. I get it, but yeah, that's not for me.
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