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Old 07-14-2023, 10:43 AM
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Those look to the same as the failed ones one the first page of this thread.

Maybe you can weld in a reinforcement where the webbing has been stretched and opening up already showing signs of failure.

I'm not good with adding stuff to pictures but maybe someone could put a red arrow to the point on the right hand side where the link is going to fail like it did for the OP.
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Old 01-18-2024, 09:12 PM
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Finally put everything together and now having issues with alignment.
Can't seem to get everything right...

1st alignment was okay, seemed to drive fine but lasted for 100km, then came out of alignment.
Vehicle could not drive faster than 60kmph on snow, was really bad, sliding left and right.


Today 2nd alignment was finished. Seemed perfect at first, steering wheel perfectly even, driving straight.
Within half an hour of driving, heard some noise, and the steering wheel now has to be turned slightly to the left for the vehicle to drive straight.
I'm not sure if the alignment is ok or not. If I'm driving around 100kmph, the vehicle is drifting left and right randomly, but not as bad as before. I compared the same terrain and speed with other vehicles, and X5 is the only one with this issue.

Called the shop back and spoke to them. Apparently the tech who aligned the vehicle mentioned that the camber/toe kit on the rear was of inferior quality. Not saying anything definitive, but he said it's possible that the kit is responsible for alignment issues.

I now wish I got the hardrace kit instead lol. Tried saving money with silver project, and maybe it's gonna cost me a lot more than had I gone with hardrace. Too early to say for sure
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Old 01-19-2024, 03:14 PM
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I've heard of those arms bending before as I was going to put them on mine.From memory aren't they quite cheap? There were some cast aluminum adjustable arms from somewhere but can't remember.
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Finally put everything together and now having issues with alignment.
Can't seem to get everything right...

1st alignment was okay, seemed to drive fine but lasted for 100km, then came out of alignment.
Vehicle could not drive faster than 60kmph on snow, was really bad, sliding left and right.


Today 2nd alignment was finished. Seemed perfect at first, steering wheel perfectly even, driving straight.
Within half an hour of driving, heard some noise, and the steering wheel now has to be turned slightly to the left for the vehicle to drive straight.
I'm not sure if the alignment is ok or not. If I'm driving around 100kmph, the vehicle is drifting left and right randomly, but not as bad as before. I compared the same terrain and speed with other vehicles, and X5 is the only one with this issue.

Called the shop back and spoke to them. Apparently the tech who aligned the vehicle mentioned that the camber/toe kit on the rear was of inferior quality. Not saying anything definitive, but he said it's possible that the kit is responsible for alignment issues.

I now wish I got the hardrace kit instead lol. Tried saving money with silver project, and maybe it's gonna cost me a lot more than had I gone with hardrace. Too early to say for sure
Typically the only workshops that are competent enough to correctly work with twist heim-joint style control arms aren't normal all-in-one service alignment shops where techs don't need training and just look at a computer screen after making one adjustment. You will have to take it to a racing car workshop that can set alignments. Your interaction and their excuses sounds extremely suspect. Start by attaching in this thread your before and after alignment printout sheet.

I bought the training course on alignments from hpacademy.com and did the alignment myself in the garage with a box string configuration and a camber gauge. I only had adjustable camber arms and not toe arms but was able to reduce camber from -3 to 1.25 degree to save the inside tire from quick wear and tear on my E66.
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If the back is getting loose almost always from too little toe.

Use string to adjust to a bit of toe in. I used to use a 1/16 spacer under the string on the front of tire which got me 0.15 toe in.

The thing is out if you set your toe to zero the suspension will flex and give you negative toe at times likely exaggerated from your lowered stance. That will make the car crazy unstable especially if you push it in the curves.

The front is much easier the back, where both adjustments affect both camber and toe but it's not terrible to get where you want if the parts have enough range.

If the ball joint or the rear control arm outer joint is worn you can't dial in alignment the wheels will steer over a degree when braking (it's what kills the inner edge of tires not the camber; I've driven 20,000 miles on 2 camber no inner edge wear). When my control arm ball died the tire didn't last a month down to the steel.

If you pull the front of the wheel in about 1/16" vs. the back both sides of course it will probably cure your problem. Camber should be about 1-1.5


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Purchased this kit for front camber.



Will take the vehicle on a 1000km trip and observe further.
I'd rather have this job done by professionals they taking a course on alignment and doing it myself haha.
My rear toe is at 0.19 and 0.21 right now.
Andrew do you think toe show be more than that?
As for suspension, everything is new and oem (lemforder)
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:35 PM
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Those toe values should be good for normal and sporty driving. If the back end gets loose it suggests loose joints changing values under load
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I'm gonna get under the vehicle and check the markings. I know they mark with alignment points so will check that.
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This is pure hell, after 2nd alignment, drove the vehicle for a couple of times.
Drove just fine on dry roads.
Now we had a tiny bit of snow, and it's crazy
I can feel the vehicle shifting left and right underneath me, and I have to constantly correct the steering wheel slightly not to drive off the road.

I have a feeling that the alignment came off again, and I'm not sure if it's due to these silver project arms or due to tech's error, or something else.
I'm thinking if I'm going for a third alignment, maybe I should just pre emptively replace these arms with something better to rule it out...
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Old 02-05-2024, 12:51 PM
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Remove the spring pressure (easier if air spring) and check all the ball joints for play it's the usual cause of your conundrum.


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