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what size suction hose is optimal?
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What ID/OD hose does your extractor use? And what's the max OD hose that'll fit in the dipstick tube? I'll go measure my X5's dipstick tube in a minute.
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I have used fluid evacuators (my first wsa MityVac fluid evacuator, but then bought another from Princess Auto - same as Harbour Freight stores) for decades. M54, M70, N62 & now N14 engines. having the oil hot is best when sucking out. and after sucked out, if your engine desigin allows, loosen the oil filter cap and then drain MORE out of that area (when filter sits on top/side access of engine, unlike the V8 N62)
I've changed my oil in my cars in dress pants, shirt and tie way more than ever in my mechanics coveralls. SOOO WORTH having a fluid evacuator.
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1/2" internal tube diameter should allow for a 6mm OD tube inside
Just measured my dipstick tube; the top is flared-out, but it appears to taper-down to 1/2" (12.7mm). Plenty of room for the 6.0 mm OD hose.
I'm sure that the unit I'm ordering hasn't got the suction of a good shop extractor, but if it works, it'll certainly be worth $25, if only for one oil change. P.S. added later, I always warm up my engines prior to changing the oil (getting scalded fingers as a result, sometimes). I forgot to add this note earlier, but double-checked my oil level just now, and the X5 hasn't used a bit since I got it in May 2021, as the level is still near max like before (perhaps a tiny bit is gone).
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worst oil change I ever did
As I posted last, I ordered a 80W 12v extraction pump from Amazon. I set it up, warmed the oil (ran the engine until the coolant was 190F, so perhaps the oil was warm enough???), and ran the extractor.
I started at 11am, and finally extracted about 3 quarts after an hour+ (you have to rest the pump for 15 minutes after 20 minutes of runtime), which left enough room for my 5-6 quart drainpan to catch. The I went underneath. At first I thought to remove the plate under the oil pan, but I couldn't even get the nuts to turn, even using a 1/2" electric impact (corded), or a 4 ft breaker bar. I was wanting to inspect the hidden pieces as well as gaining clearance for oil drainage. Exasperated, I decided to just remove the oil pan plug, and found it to be almost as tight as the aforementioned bolts. At this point, two hours into a 15-minute oil change (my usual time), I gave the drain plug bolt all I could (just using my longet 17mm box wrench, fearing more power might strip it out), and it finally turned. It fought me all the way out, getting finger-tight at the last two threads, and the oil drained into my drainpan (held up in my other hand). About 4.5 quarts came out, and made no mess, but I replaced the original drain plug with a new magnetic-tipped bolt from Amazon it went in much better than the other came out (I checked for leaks after filling with oil). How hard is the underside plate to get off? If it would come off, then I could've used two pans (or a larger one), and been sure that oil wouldn't spurt on top of the plate, causing a mess. Extracting 3 quarts reduced the pressure enough to where the remainder just stayed vertical. Total time to change oil: 3.5 hours, including cleanup. Way too slow.
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I feel like you're making this job really, really, really difficult for reasons that I don't understand. Why not buy a bigger drain pan?
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Did you overtighten at the last oil change or something? How do you do it in 15 minutes normally?
The pan takes a little bit of time to get off. The bolts are too big for my electric impact. The bolts are threaded into nuts on the top of the pan. Some of the bolts will spin and you will need a second wrench on the top to restrain the nuts on the top. It is actually pretty easy to take the pan off once you know how to access all six bolts.
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Special tool: manual impact!
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first-time oil change on X5
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About the protective plate: I tried using the tools I mentioned, and with a box end on the nut, but I didn't have the room to move (the X5 is only lifted six inches in front, on short ramps), nor the strength to muscle them loose (one arm is useless). I've never had the plate off, but my friend, the previous owner, had it off when he was rebuilding it, but he has a strong/new 1/2" impact that is obviously stronger than my 30-year-old electric/corded impact I bought at some tool sale. I'll have to improve my tool stock, because if he put the plate back on without proper torque values, then I might need a much stronger impact...example: I had my first flat a few months ago, and had to use a 4-ft breaker bar to loosen the lug bolts...I'm sure the previous owner used his big honking impact on it as well!
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01 BMW X5 E53,3.0i-5L40E, 7/13/01 topas-blau,Leder-grau,"resto-project car" Here: 14 Lexus ES350,3.5L-U660E 09 HHR Panel,2.2L-4T45E 04 Chevy 2500HD,6.0L-4L80E 98 GMC Sierra 1500,5.7L-4L60E Gone: 66 Chevelle Malibu 2dr ht.,327>441c.i.-TH350>PGlide/transbrake 08 Cobalt Coupe,2.2L-4T45E 69 & 75 C10s,350c.i.-TH350 86 S10,2.8L-700R4 73 Volvo 142,2.0L-MT4 72 & 73 VW SuperBeetles,1.6l-MT4 64 VW,1.2l-MT4 67 Dodge Monaco 500 2dr ht.,383c.i.-A727 56 Chevy 210 4dr,265c.i.-PGlide |
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You probably just need to loosen the bolts with a big ratchet (which you might be able to do without holding the nut in a second wrench) and then put the wrench on the nut and use a small electric impact to take the bolts out.
Honestly it is a job that is made greatly easier by having plenty of space to move around under the car.
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