2002 X5 3.0 - Doors won't lock with key, or center button

[Effduration]

Have you tried to get a new key fob from BMW?….I am hearing wild rumors they are NLA.

[andrewwynn]

You can remove the cylinder and turn with a screwdriver to set it to center.

Lock not centered will cause issues. The common one is the DLA turned to unlock and stuck there all the windows will roll down.


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[Salty B.]

Originally Posted by andrewwynn

Have you tried to re-pair the key?
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Tried that today. No reaction at all.

Thinking of sending the original key to that bmwgm5 guy to get the battery replaced and such. The new one I bought in mid-2023 (from a BMW dealer, so they were available then) worked fine as a remote, until it didn't. If that works, then I'll send in the newer one.

Maybe its battery went tits-up? It could have been old stock so who knows when it was made.

The doors will lock/unlock with the key in the lock, and with the console button. So it's either the fob, or whatever receives the signal from it.

[Bdc101]

FWIW, the keyless entry receiver module in the rear spoiler (I don't remember the name but search my post history if you're curious) will NOT trigger a code with foxwell or PA soft (the only two scanners I have) if it is broken.



PA soft/BMW Scanner was able to monitor when the car was detecting a key fob lock/unlock command and from which fob it was coming from. But didn't help diagnose that it was a bad receiver and not a bad key. I got a junkyard one and it was easy to fix from there. If both your fobs do not remotely lock or unlock then it's worth a look.

[andrewwynn]

The antenna amplifier / receiver in the tailgate is a known fault.

Multiple buttons involved in pairing so any one malfunctions and you're sol.

Some hardware stores have a remote tester that will blink when it senses a
Signal so that's a way to test if the buttons are doing anything.

If you poke a pair of needles into the key in exactly the right place you can measure the voltage of battery. It will drop a little when you press a button if it drops a lot battery is shot.

[SaltLifeCI]

In case this helps someone in the future, I wanted to finish up this thread with what fixed our X5 not locking.

Recapping the thread to one post:

• The X5 wouldn't lock by key or by center console. Fob battery had been dead
for some time.

• The center console button does nothing, no sound or activation of the locks.
It doesn't seem like this button had liquid poured on it, it wasn't sticky.

• The Key feels like theres no resistance turning left or right in the driver door
lock (not stuck). No sound when turning the key either way.

• We hooked up an ODBII computer and tried to actuate the locks - Failed.

• Fuzes all are good - no blown fuzes. The 12V battery is less than a year old.

• One thing I failed to mention in my original post - the driver door lock stem
would not budge. Press on it as hard as you wanted to and still it wouldn't
move.

• As recommended we bought the driver door window switch assembly which made zero changes so we sent it back.

What ultimately fixed the locking issue:

Installing a new door actuator. When I took off the door lock, the door lock spindle came out in several pieces. I bought the repair kit on eBay, which along with the new door actuator we now had beeps when it locked with the key! We never had that before since I acquired the X5. Surprise! Surprise!

After having success with the door actuator and door lock spindle. We thoguht we were done. Nope... The center console door lock button would only unlock the car, but not lock it. Buying a new center console button fixed that issue.

While I was in there with the door panel off I put a little lite grease on the power window guides, as well as the door handle spring. The stainless steel zip tie was still in the location i put it in when the door handle broke. Thats a great mod that everyone should do!

Hopefully the X5 is done with needing parts for a while. I rarely drive the X5 (we call it The Tank) its here on the property for anyone who needs a car or needs to tow a small trailer etc... I think i'm going to put a note pad in there for any strange sounds or anything not working from now on.

Thanks to everyone who offered their help!

[haigha]

Great you got the problems fixed! Thanks for the follow up post with the resolutions

[Salty B.]

Originally Posted by Bdc101

FWIW, the keyless entry receiver module in the rear spoiler (I don't remember the name but search my post history if you're curious) will NOT trigger a code with foxwell or PA soft (the only two scanners I have) if it is broken.



PA soft/BMW Scanner was able to monitor when the car was detecting a key fob lock/unlock command and from which fob it was coming from. But didn't help diagnose that it was a bad receiver and not a bad key. I got a junkyard one and it was easy to fix from there. If both your fobs do not remotely lock or unlock then it's worth a look.

Thing is, the new fob DID work from the first day I had it, for well over a year. And then it did not. We'd come back from Mexico one night and I used the remote to unlock the beast, and that was the last time it worked.

Console button works. Key in the driver's door works. Alarm beeps once on lock, twice on unlock. Hatch rubbery button is intermittent, but the console button works.

Just feels like a dead fob battery that won't charge.

[andrewwynn]

Hatch button shorting out might cause your symptoms.